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On September 20 2011 08:03 amazingxkcd wrote: Personally, I would not care whether or not there were gay soldiers, but if this leads towards legalization of same-sex marriages, I am completely opposed to that notion.
It's people like you who make me want to leave this country.
Anyway, glad to hear this is official, good stuff!
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On September 20 2011 08:13 SpamMeLots wrote: This is a sad day for America. Then again allowing homosexuals into the military as long as they kept quiet wasn't a good day either. It should be common sense to anyone that, though you wouldn't want them anywhere, the military is one of the last places you'd want homosexuals. And as the results of the survey of the military shows, the members of the military overwhelmingly oppose allowing open homosexuals among their ranks.
The American Psychological Association (APA) classified homosexuality as a mental disorder, then declassified it as such. Today the APA is on its way to declassify pedophilia as a mental disorder, condone it, and make it normal and accepted, following the path of homosexuality.
Will it be 18 years before pedophiles are protected, or are we already there? Source on de-classifying pedophilia as a mental disorder? Or were you listening to some batshit crazy "American Family Association" pundit spewing his mouth on something that he knows exactly nothing about. The APA has never entertained such ideas ever, and why does every person always equate homosexuality with pedophilia? Do some research before making your ridiculous, outlandish, incredibly ignorant claims, pleasel.
Hell of an amazing first post.
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On September 20 2011 08:05 acker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 08:03 amazingxkcd wrote: Personally, I would not care whether or not there were gay soldiers, but if this leads towards legalization of same-sex marriages, I am completely opposed to that notion. This topic gave me hope for American culture and society. Then you killed it. How did you do it so effortlessly?
Gay marriage will be legalized eventually, it's inevitable. The only reason it isn't atm is the older generation's stigma against homosexuals due to religious reasons.
The younger generation is far more tolerant and accepting. As our generation gets older, I don't see them changing their minds to suddenly disapproving of gay marriage, and thus assuming the next generation after us doesn't have a wild swing in the opposite direction, I just don't see how it won't happen in my lifetime.
On September 20 2011 08:17 Stereotype wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 08:13 SpamMeLots wrote: This is a sad day for America. Then again allowing homosexuals into the military as long as they kept quiet wasn't a good day either. It should be common sense to anyone that, though you wouldn't want them anywhere, the military is one of the last places you'd want homosexuals. And as the results of the survey of the military shows, the members of the military overwhelmingly oppose allowing open homosexuals among their ranks.
The American Psychological Association (APA) classified homosexuality as a mental disorder, then declassified it as such. Today the APA is on its way to declassify pedophilia as a mental disorder, condone it, and make it normal and accepted, following the path of homosexuality.
Will it be 18 years before pedophiles are protected, or are we already there? Source on de-classifying pedophilia as a mental disorder? Or were you listening to some batshit crazy "American Family Association" pundit spewing his mouth on something that he knows exactly nothing about. The APA has never entertained such ideas ever, and why does every person always equate homosexuality with pedophilia? Do some research before making your ridiculous, outlandish, incredibly ignorant claims, pleasel. Hell of an amazing first post.
Only anti-homosexual people bring that up, but you're right, it ALWAYS seems to get fucking brought up eventually.
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On September 20 2011 08:14 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 08:03 amazingxkcd wrote: Personally, I would not care whether or not there were gay soldiers, but if this leads towards legalization of same-sex marriages, I am completely opposed to that notion. It's people like you who make me want to leave this country. Anyway, glad to hear this is official, good stuff!
Why leave? This attitude of intolerance keeps diminishing over the years, soon enough same sex marriages will be recognized by the government. Any way, that someone is allowed to say something like that, as ignorant and bigoted as it is, is the main reason I'm interested in staying here.
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On September 20 2011 08:13 SpamMeLots wrote: This is a sad day for America. Then again allowing homosexuals into the military as long as they kept quiet wasn't a good day either. It should be common sense to anyone that, though you wouldn't want them anywhere, the military is one of the last places you'd want homosexuals. And as the results of the survey of the military shows, the members of the military overwhelmingly oppose allowing open homosexuals among their ranks.
The American Psychological Association (APA) classified homosexuality as a mental disorder, then declassified it as such. Today the APA is on its way to declassify pedophilia as a mental disorder, condone it, and make it normal and accepted, following the path of homosexuality.
Will it be 18 years before pedophiles are protected, or are we already there?
This is an amazing troll post. Its over the top but consistent enough to believe it could be a real opinion. Anyways, I am very happy for this progress. I never saw myself in the military but it is a good thing that future generations of gay men will at least have the option.
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Awesome news! My question is: will gay individuals who were discharged because of DADT be able to rejoin the armed services?
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On September 20 2011 08:21 dcemuser wrote: Stuff
Look at his post count.
On September 20 2011 08:18 FabledIntegral wrote: Gay marriage will be legalized eventually, it's inevitable. The only reason it isn't atm is the older generation's stigma against homosexuals due to religious reasons.
The younger generation is far more tolerant and accepting. As our generation gets older, I don't see them changing their minds to suddenly disapproving of gay marriage, and thus assuming the next generation after us doesn't have a wild swing in the opposite direction, I just don't see how it won't happen in my lifetime.
I want to believe.
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On September 20 2011 08:18 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 08:05 acker wrote:On September 20 2011 08:03 amazingxkcd wrote: Personally, I would not care whether or not there were gay soldiers, but if this leads towards legalization of same-sex marriages, I am completely opposed to that notion. This topic gave me hope for American culture and society. Then you killed it. How did you do it so effortlessly? Gay marriage will be legalized eventually, it's inevitable. The only reason it isn't atm is the older generation's stigma against homosexuals due to religious reasons. The younger generation is far more tolerant and accepting. As our generation gets older, I don't see them changing their minds to suddenly disapproving of gay marriage, and thus assuming the next generation after us doesn't have a wild swing in the opposite direction, I just don't see how it won't happen in my lifetime.
Yep, it's funny actually. Some times it seems like cultural developments like this are mostly just the product of time, and embittered older generations slowly dying off until they're significantly outnumbered. :|
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On September 20 2011 08:24 No_Roo wrote:Yep, it's funny actually. Some times it seems like cultural developments like this are mostly just the product of time, and embittered older generations slowly dying off until they're significantly outnumbered.
We're going to become the older generation someday. Younger generations will point at us and laugh because we considered pedophilia a crime or something equally heinous to us in the future.
We all know it's going to happen.
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On September 20 2011 08:18 No_Roo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 08:14 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:On September 20 2011 08:03 amazingxkcd wrote: Personally, I would not care whether or not there were gay soldiers, but if this leads towards legalization of same-sex marriages, I am completely opposed to that notion. It's people like you who make me want to leave this country. Anyway, glad to hear this is official, good stuff! Why leave? This attitude of intolerance keeps diminishing over the years, soon enough same sex marriages will be recognized by the government. Any way, that someone is allowed to say something like that, as ignorant and bigoted as it is, is the main reason I'm interested in staying here.
It's more that you don't want to be surrounded by people with opposite mentalities such as yourself. Sure, you want them to be able to say anything they want, but do you want to live in that society? I'd move if I was surrounded by a bunch of intolerant bigots, even if I want them to have the right to be bigoted.
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On September 20 2011 08:27 FabledIntegral wrote: It's more that you don't want to be surrounded by people with opposite mentalities such as yourself. Sure, you want them to be able to say anything they want, but do you want to live in that society? I'd move if I was surrounded by a bunch of intolerant bigots, even if I want them to have the right to be bigoted.
Or we could live in Britain or somewhere that speaks English that's a decade ahead of the United States in terms of culture.
I mean, people are allowed to speak their mind in Europe but they seem to be quite a bit more liberal in terms of social policy. No old people campaigning against monokinis and other stuff. And maybe somewhat more intelligent in terms of mathematical and scientific skill.
...well, I guess Germany banned swastika talk. But that's all I know of.
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On September 20 2011 08:25 acker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 08:24 No_Roo wrote:Yep, it's funny actually. Some times it seems like cultural developments like this are mostly just the product of time, and embittered older generations slowly dying off until they're significantly outnumbered. We're going to become the older generation someday. Younger generations will point at us and laugh because we considered pedophilia a crime or something equally heinous to us in the future. We all know it's going to happen.
Pedophilia isn't a crime. Molesting/abusing children is.
On September 20 2011 08:29 acker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 08:27 FabledIntegral wrote: It's more that you don't want to be surrounded by people with opposite mentalities such as yourself. Sure, you want them to be able to say anything they want, but do you want to live in that society? I'd move if I was surrounded by a bunch of intolerant bigots, even if I want them to have the right to be bigoted. Or we could live in Britain or somewhere that speaks English that's a decade ahead of the United States in terms of culture. I mean, people are allowed to speak their mind in Europe but they seem to be quite a bit more liberal in terms of social policy. And, if I might add, somewhat more intelligent in terms of mathematical and scientific skill.
Note, I'm a [moderate] libertarian (oxymoron?). I'd hate living with European social policies, it's a byproduct of being an economics major.
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This is great but it is really terrible that discrimination based on sexuality is still given only a rational basis test and not given intermediate or strict scrutiny despite that homosexuals fit all the the requirements of a suspect class.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspect_classification
It is truly stupid that this decision has never been forced on the Supreme Court.
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On September 20 2011 08:18 SpamMeLots wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 08:03 amazingxkcd wrote: Personally, I would not care whether or not there were gay soldiers, but if this leads towards legalization of same-sex marriages, I am completely opposed to that notion. If you give an inch, they'll take a mile. The inch that was given is that someone is a homosexual. There is no such thing as a homosexual. There are only males and females. Personally I think you draw the line too far. The only reason homosexual behaviour is tolerated is because heterosexual sex is treated as acceptable. Wtf is with that. It gets in the way of schoolwork, distracts kids, leads to antisocial behaviour such as going out and drinking, partying, drugs and places a huge burden on people with STDs and infants. And you know who ends up picking up the bill for it? The American taxpayer and the family. We should protect families and lower taxes. We wouldn't be in this mess right now if we hadn't ingrained it in our children that it's okay for two consenting adults to do what they like with their bodies through this constant obsession with sex in the media and popular culture. You're right, we should take a stance against it because it's getting out of hand. I say tackle it at the source, full on gender based segregation. All the men should live together, shower together, work together, sleep together and so forth so they never get the idea of sticking their penis in things which, by the slippery slope you proved earlier, will inevitably lead to sticking their penis in each other. You can't have gay sex without sex.
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Shouldn't really have existed in the first place, but great news nonetheless.
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On September 20 2011 08:35 SpamMeLots wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 08:17 Stereotype wrote: Source on de-classifying pedophilia as a mental disorder? The APA has never entertained such ideas ever, and why does every person always equate homosexuality with pedophilia? Source on de-classifying pedophilia as a mental disorder?It's not that people equate homosexuality with pedophilia, but it's not uncommon for homosexuals to have been molested as a child. Even George Takei on the Howard Stern show told the story of being molested as a child as how he knew he was a homosexual.
How does that have anything to do with paedophilia? That has to be the worst attempt at sourcing an argument I've ever seen.
Also repealing DADT is pretty god damn awesome :D
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