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On September 11 2011 14:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Why are you voting sandroba when he hasn't been here in like 48 hours?
Vote him if he shows up and is still scummy, vote someone else for now.
As for sinani, I don't care. If someone plays like that and straight up pisses over the game then I will call them out. I'm fine with "new playstyles" or whatever but that's not lurking, it's not trolling, it's just downright fucking annoying.
Can you explain how I've "pissed over the game?"
PS: The capitalization and punctuation means I'm back to normal.
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Half the town is already inactive, sheeping votes and derping around just makes it even more difficult to tell who is scum and who is not.
I don't even understand what your aim was. If your playstyle screws with town atmosphere then you're going to get lynched.
Just read your own filter:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261732&user=128360
Responding to questions with this:
On September 11 2011 09:01 sinani206 wrote:
im the only thing going on
No reads:
On September 11 2011 10:41 sinani206 wrote:
what does my favorite role have to do with contributing? i dont understand that. anyway, i dont have any reads atm.
But you're okay with voting me for a "scumslip?"
Get real dude, you're scum or you're playing like shit. Townies always have stuff to contribute.
You miss the vote day 1, then come back and do this:
On September 11 2011 05:29 sinani206 wrote:
just got here have nothing else to say bro get away from me thought i would stop in again just in case anyone would get mad at my vote and it turns out they did so cool story bro but im voting for wbg no point wasting my time with anything else im being as efficient as possible bro get out
Wtf?
You have done NOTHING all game. And you wonder why people are mad at you?
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Can you explain a single useful thing you've tried to do this game sinani? Even after being repeatedly asked to. Drop-dead absolute uselessness is not a playstyle.
I had bum marked as a VT trying to draw a hit from his opening post but Zona raises a good point. I'm not as inclined to believe in Mafia finding the breadcrumb as I am in Mafia wanting to hitblock Zona in case she was a Vet, but that's all idle speculation anyways. The analysis on bum looks good though.
Convenient that bum avoids the thread besides his TAA vote until called out. bum you mentioned yesterday you wanted to keep an eye on Palmar/Mig, now you suddenly vote sandroba with no mention of either? What gives?
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Sinani can you explain exactly what new play style you were going for? Like what were you trying to accomplish with it. Also can you explain your comment concerning missing the lynch? Because you were clearly online during the day posting in 2 other mafia threads.
This looks like a completely bullshit excuse. I mean how exactly is being gone the entire first day then popping in day2 and contributing absolutely nothing besides you have no reads a play style?
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if i was a girl on teamliquid i'd never tell anyone god
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Yo guys, sorry for the long absence. I'm going to post tomorrow when I'm sober.
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sandroba will not be replaced out at the moment. Continue.
@Dr.H - why not? It's not like most people here are horn dogs,
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Found out something today.
Dr. H is a girl.
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Half your posts sinani are making various excuses for not playing.
On September 07 2011 11:15 sinani206 wrote:
1:45 left. that's about how long it should take me do my hw. see you all then.
also fucking school
On September 09 2011 14:26 sinani206 wrote:
fuck i missed the vote screw homework
On September 11 2011 10:43 sinani206 wrote:
also you might notice that i am posting more today. guess why. its because its a weekend. here is my schedule now that school has started. 7 wake up 8-3 school 3-6 football 6:30 get home, dinner. 7-9, homework. going to sleep at about 10:30 because im tired from football generally. so i have a little over an hour of free time a day in which im posting. thats why i havent been to your definition "active" and why i missed the vote.
But what's weird is on sept the 9th you posted at 9:44, 13:08, 14:26. So you posted 3 times over a 5 hour period. You blame your schedule on why you missed the vote yet you had already posted twice that same day in different threads. And if your schedule is accurate how does that explain posting over such an extended period of time? You found the time to read and post in other threads yet were too busy to actually post in the only game you were playing, bullshit.
and then there is this
On September 11 2011 14:29 sinani206 wrote:
i am town, not fucking with you, just trying a different playstyle. maybe i should have smurfed so people wouldnt yell at me for no reason.
Another excuse for your play this game. Exactly what play style could you possibly be going for? Troll, give no reads, do 0 scum hunting. The opposite of any possible townie play style you might attempt.
I also find it strange that in some of your posts you appear very confident and you put out the attitude that you don't care what other people think (a townie attitude generally). But if that's truly how you feel then why so many excuses? The 2 things don't mesh.
##Vote Sinani206
Why do people want to vig sinani instead of lynching him? If we think he is scum then kill him. We don't even know for sure that we have any vigs.
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Concerning bum, I don't put any real weight into zona's breadcrumbs. It was hidden well enough you can't be sure whether mafia saw it or not. But the rest of zona's analysis and curu's points about bum are good. It's especially suspicious that he was awol from the thread for over 24 hours but then less than an hour after getting some votes on him he appears to defend himself. That generally indicates someone who is actively lurking and just not posting in the thread.
Bum would be my #2 choice for lynch after sinani.
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On September 11 2011 13:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
As Curu pointed out earlier Palmar promised to change his town play so he doesn't derp us all with his spamminess/trolling/tunneling.
When did Curu remind us of Palmar's promise exactly?
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On September 11 2011 12:13 Curu wrote:
Palmar basically took everything that made his chaotic playstyle Pro Town and removed it, keeping the anti Town and unhelpful elements while eliminating the parts that actually helped find scum.
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My wording was bad, but Curu did point out that Palmar used his same style from XLIV but removed the protown elements.
I happened to remember that Curu pointed this out, and that Palmar promised he wouldn't use that type of playstyle (post XLIV IIRC). That's all I meant with that.
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Right.
I don't agree with any case on Bumatlarge, I think I've gotten a grasp on how he plays town and how he plays scum, this is almost purely based on his day 1 posting, I'm pretty sure scumatlarge doesn't play like he did on day one, so let's rule him out.
Curu is almost definitely town, thing about people going emotional is that it makes it very easy to pick out actual frustrated town, and scum trying to blend in with that atmosphere, something I'll come back to later. The only problem with Curu as town is that his reads are below his standards, but his posting is way too natural and unrestricted for him to possibly be scum.
the smurf is town too. The shot was just terrible, but the intents behind it seem genuine enough. He also seems to be putting in the effort to actually scumhunt. The shot was really fucking dumb, but I'd still defend this guy at the moment.
And Sinani206 is using the I-don't-give-a-shit attitude he sometimes dons when he plays terribly. It's terrible, but it's TOWN. I can't believe this guy is even up for lynching today, he got deflected on after WBG scumslipped like a boss faster than lightning, what the hell guys?
Zona is probably town, claims a shot. No idea why she would play a veteran like that, hasn't stuck her neck out at all this game. It's just a weird style overall, her attack on Bum is just... derp. It's a bad lynch and it's never going to fly.
I can't really say I have reads on Jackal/Chaos13. Jackal doesn't post anything useful at all, which is consistent with his scum and town meta. chaos13 looks shadier. xtf is just pushing bad lynches, but I don't know if it's bad or scum.
GGQ is kinda scummy too, but I really don't know, I think I'm fairly convinced on three people, and GGQ, Jackal, Chaos13 and xtf, could all fill that fourth spot.
Those three people are
Mig: Pushing scum agenda day 1, flat out lying about my style of play. He's been wrong time and time again and he's again fucking wrong with sinani206. Seriously HOW FUCKING FAST did that shit get deflected away from his partner -
- Wherebugsgo: He's basically mirroring what Curu has to say, because you'know, if townies can go raging, scum can do it too and look very green! Also did I mention that he just told us the mafia has 2kp, which basically confirms Zona's claim and also confirms him as mafia.
like it's not even done there, he has jumped two shitty town wagons today, on sinani206 and bumatlarge, based on nothing. I have a town read on both of those which makes it basically malicious derp play from wbg.
I can't believe these guys managed to talk you out of lynching him, but it's fine, since some of town seems to have gotten a decent read too. on his partner Sandroba.
Just read Bayonet's analysis. Sandroba doesn't just fucking disappear during day2, he likes to break games. On day one Sandroba just followed along with whatever town was doing instead of being the stubborn asshole he tends to be as town, which is basically ringing alarm bells in my head.
##Vote Sandroba
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LOL
So, I'm mafia because of a "scumslip."
Yeah, you're mafia. If you're going to accuse me of being mafia at least have the balls to vote me.
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and however much you want to make it seem so, the scumslip is simply a secondary issue, your play has either been terrible, or scummy.
and since I've not yet seen you play terrible, I'm going with scummy.
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I've done absolutely nothing useful this game. The playstyle thing was a lame excuse for not contributing. I'm not going to try to make something up. I'm wasting town's time by being alive anyway, so just lynch me.
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The only people left in this game Bugs has not FoSed.
BayonnetAnderson
Zona
chaos13
xtfftc
And to be fair he simply called Chaos stupid.
Everybody else is lurking/trolling/not participating.
Yet Zona/Bayonette/xtfftc haven't really said shit either. But they're not scummy.
On September 11 2011 19:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
LOL
So, I'm mafia because of a "scumslip."
Yeah, you're mafia. If you're going to accuse me of being mafia at least have the balls to vote me.
Yes that is a scum slip. A big time scum slip. Your post claims knowledge of the fact. It wasn't an assumption. You "noticed". You weren't posing a question. You weren't hypothesizing. You weren't pondering. You were stating a fact.
On September 11 2011 03:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Wait what the fuck I just noticed something.
Mafia KP is 2 but only one person died last night? Who got saved?
Yes sir. That is a scum slip.
This guy is scum. Lynch him.
Zona's claim is too convenient and much to late after the fact to be believable. Her next post also claims a RB.
Bullshit. You knew that when you claimed the hit but conveniently neglected to mention it.
It's only purpose is to answer a BS question from a scum buddy.
On TAA
On September 09 2011 11:46 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 11:43 Curu wrote:I actually like TAA a lot less now because of both WBG and xtfftc. WBG has been centering on TAA as a major lynch candidate and asking us to consolidate votes on him while also trying to set me up in the case of TAA flipping Town. I have never seen him pull the stupid speculation of "if x flips Town then his accuser must be scum" in either of the games I was involved with him in. xtfftc's post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261732¤tpage=13#250Full of contradictions. He is pressing Palmar for calling GGQ a bad lynch, then goes and calls GGQ a bad lynch in the very next paragraph of the same post. Also the hedging of his vote by calling TAA possible "bad Town." Rofl, this settles it, you're scum. I have NEVER centered on TAA, the only reason I even consider TAA is because he's actually pretty close to getting lynched.
I never even believed there was a proper case on TAA. I said he was SOMEWHAT suspicious and that he needs to post more. He was an acceptable lynch to me simply because everyone else thinks he's scum and everyone else here is much better than me. However, I'm not afraid to have my own opinions. Watchlist: Curu, Mig, Palmar, iGrok
You sure used the hammer on him though.
Lynch this guy. When he flips red then Zona.
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Palmar what do you mean my reads are below my standards? From what I've seen we've agreed on almost everything in this game (iGrok Town, GGQ better lynch than iGrok, TAA good lynch, Mig playing below his rapetown, sandroba scummy, sinani derping around). The only thing we've disagreed upon is WBG. Are you perhaps telling me that many of my scum reads (and your same scum reads you're also pushing) are Town?
There is no reason for sinani to be posting like such a twat. My guess is that the Mafia team coached him to take on a "I don't give a fuck" attitude to avoid lynch and told him to specifically avoid commenting on anything in the game (his twin Nisani gave away his entire scumteam in Merc Mini when pressured, derpy derp derp).
If this is actually Town sinani he needs to be banned or policy lynched day 1 every game.
Palmar you can't actually believe WBG is scum. In the past you have based good Town reads off of people derping around or playing poorly but not having any Mafia motivation in them (all the mislynches in XLIV, iGrok this game, you're clearing the smurf for it). I don't see why a Mafia WBG would push me in such an antagonizing fashion, it's basically begging for me to OMGUS him or to paint him as scum when I flip Town. The "scumslip" is entirely dumb, it's his third game and in the previous two Mafia KP was #/2.
Jackal there is zero Mafia motivation for Zona to claim a shot + RB. She was never going to be lynched anytime soon.
sinani looks like a much stronger lynch than TAA but the people who jumped on TAA quickly (bum, xt, sandroba, Jackal) and Palmar aren't touching it. Obviously they can't all be scum but there's probably a good chance many of them are.
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