On August 03 2011 12:18 Coolwhip wrote: Idra lost to a not high ranked American. How do you explain that fanboys!
As Nestea, the king of zerg, has said before, "zerg can always lose". I lose to fuckin diamonds and im high master in zvz because i hate that matchup..
It's funny how you use ZvZ as the example of how "Zerg can always lose". I wonder if IdrA just stuck to Terran during his switch from BW to SC2 whether Terrans would just blame their race for losing too.
On August 03 2011 11:38 ReignFayth wrote: I think part of why I quit is the ridiculous expectations from players who are terrible at the game
saying axslav is mediocre and strifecro is just not good and lz is trash
i mean jesus christ give them a break
from that point of view we could just say every foreigner right now is absolute trash at this game and they shouldn't bother playing this game since koreans are winning everything
noone is saying 'foreigners are trash, they should just give up'
people are saying 'foreigners are (mostly) trash, they should work harder for their money'
go back 6 months and everyone was saying the difference between korea and the west is so small, now is our chance to have an amazing scene. then the korean players worked their asses off for no reward except the promise of a future scene in korea. western players who have already been given their scene handed on a plate with thousands of tourneys and massive prize pools. and from that we have tons of players pretending to be too good to take part in smaller matches or too cool to practice.
thats, why u get this backlash when pro level players are allowed to get away with poor play, because we all know that if they had been working hard 6 months ago they would be too good for it now.
Except those same people go shit all over threads like the EG House thread, saying that it won't help and that practice is pointless because they are all "so shitty" that they won't actually improve because only playing good Koreans will make you better.
People bitch regardless.
thats the difference between random hating and legit criticism
On August 03 2011 12:18 Coolwhip wrote: Idra lost to a not high ranked American. How do you explain that fanboys!
As Nestea, the king of zerg, has said before, "zerg can always lose". I lose to fuckin diamonds and im high master in zvz because i hate that matchup..
It's funny how you use ZvZ as the example of how "Zerg can always lose". I wonder if IdrA just stuck to Terran during his switch from BW to SC2 whether Terrans would just blame their race for losing too.
that and how random people use their own ladder experiences (idc about skill, im no pro, you're no pro doesnt matter, you can lose to anyone as any race if you arent pro) to defend him
i get the feeling that idra would have a field day with TvZ and TvP requiring "so much more skill"
On August 03 2011 12:18 Coolwhip wrote: Idra lost to a not high ranked American. How do you explain that fanboys!
As Nestea, the king of zerg, has said before, "zerg can always lose". I lose to fuckin diamonds and im high master in zvz because i hate that matchup..
Yeah, and yet NesTea the King of Zergs apparently has the awesome luck of having a 90%+ ZvZ win rate.
Every race can always lose, if you make a mistake or get incredibly unlucky.
On August 03 2011 11:58 ChrysaliS_ wrote: I'd say Kiwikaki still holds the throne as top American Protoss. And please, iNcontroL should not belong in the debate at all... yeah he placed 4th at MLG, but as everyone as pointed out he got extremely lucky (beat Mihai, Slush, and TLO twice thanks to extended series), but besides that he has literally ZERO results and a 39% winrate...
Kiwi isn't American though.
Actually if we're nitpicky about it, there's only one reasonable choice for top American Protoss. He's in Code S and all that.
Well if you wanna get all nitpicky about it, he's Canadian...
Lol @ the comments from people who didn't watch the games. Machine could have won if he'd just done a straight hydra nydus instead of that stupid baneling bust, but he seriously seemed to underestimate how bad is opponent was.
You really need to go and watch the Idra vs Spades game. Spades won with a basically unscoutable coin flip. Even I felt for Idra regarding the scouting options, when he poked the front it could have been ANYTHING coming (a load of marines, one hellion poked).
lol@all the people who said EG would take it no problem. EG is really weak and Reign has put together a pretty good team. Proud to say I'm one of 40% who voted REIGN.
Did EG get too cocky not playing puma? Don't see any reason why he didn't play and it's not cause of lag cause he played the nasl open bracket with lag.
On August 04 2011 02:31 Canucklehead wrote: Did EG get too cocky not playing puma? Don't see any reason why he didn't play and it's not cause of lag cause he played the nasl open bracket with lag.
He lives in opposite ends of the timezone, as said many times in this threat hes most likely just going to be a figurhead at offline events