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MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 01:30:30
May 15 2009 01:28 GMT
#1
How does the US health system work? I'm aware that like car insurance, you pay every month and whenever you go to the doc, hopsital that insurance rises ( i think ) but what if u dont have insurance. how do you pay for like a checkup. Who determines those fees? is there a set /hour rate?

thanks.

sorry for being naiive. im only comfortable w/canada's health policies.
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
May 15 2009 01:48 GMT
#2
"Without insurance, a doctor visit will probably cost you about $150" from some forum I found in a google search, dunno if it's accurate...
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
May 15 2009 01:53 GMT
#3
im in canada
but i hear that health insurance is a MUST unless your absurdly rich. also i've heard of quite a few scams where those who sign up for health insurance still dont get shit when they claim for it
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
May 15 2009 01:56 GMT
#4
I believe price of a medical procedure/checkup is set by the institution that is performing it. For example, I have dental coverage, and my dentist sent me a bill after my recent checkup. It was 150 dollars for the cleaning/etc, of which there is a 10 dollar copay plus I had to pay my 40 dollar deductible (first visit of the year), so I had to pay 50 dollars out of pocket.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 15 2009 01:57 GMT
#5
I do not have health insurance and everything I do health related is very expensive.

No, things are not set. It is determined by the business. This includes pharmacies.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 02:00:36
May 15 2009 01:59 GMT
#6
You can purchase health insurance yourself if it isn't provided by your employer. This is expensive, but it is a bad idea to be uninsured because any major health complication will bankrupt you. I don't plan to be uninsured at all during my life and I don't recommend it for anyone else.

edit: If you leave a job, you can often continue the insurance from that job for a period of time for a monthly rate; this is called cobra I believe. After a while, you need to get new insurance.
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Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
May 15 2009 02:13 GMT
#7
On May 15 2009 10:28 MuffiN wrote:
How does the US health system work?


It doesn't.
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GrayArea
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States872 Posts
May 15 2009 02:36 GMT
#8
On May 15 2009 11:13 Archerofaiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 10:28 MuffiN wrote:
How does the US health system work?


It doesn't.

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prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
May 15 2009 02:37 GMT
#9
The US health system is ridiculous. I'm so glad I live in Australia as far as health is concerned.
Oh no
DeathSpank
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1029 Posts
May 15 2009 02:46 GMT
#10
we don't have a system. It's all privatized. Maybe once we get out of this economic fiasco Obama will change that.
yes.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 02:53:24
May 15 2009 02:49 GMT
#11
I think it's a bit silly the way our system is. It's illegal to drive a car without having it insured but health insurance on the other hand is a luxury of sorts. Most people that have it get it through their jobs. The people that don't most likely have crappy jobs that are the kind of jobs that have few or no benefits and along with that pay very little so that can't afford to get health insurance on their own.

Even a fairly minor thing like having a kid break a bone can wreak havoc on a budget because once you have to go the hospital things get crazy expensive fast and half the time they bill you for still that they didn't do or was unnecessary it seems.

edit: I don't see our health system changing anytime soon. Everyone who has power in society is just fine in the status quo, and it's not like the poor people are gonna unite and actually demand anything. Changing the state of things would take tons of money and that obviously isn't there. Obama isn't some miracle worker, and even though I consider myself liberal I haven't been a fan of the way he's been handling things lately.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
May 15 2009 02:55 GMT
#12
Democratics have filibuster-proof power. There is a very real chance this could go through.
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numberThirtyOne
Profile Joined March 2008
United States294 Posts
May 15 2009 02:56 GMT
#13
On May 15 2009 11:46 DeathSpank wrote:
we don't have a system. It's all privatized. Maybe once we get out of this economic fiasco Obama will change that.


If he promises to wait that long, I'll be happier.
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KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
May 15 2009 03:03 GMT
#14
On May 15 2009 11:13 Archerofaiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 10:28 MuffiN wrote:
How does the US health system work?


It doesn't.

RIP eSTRO :(
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
May 15 2009 03:03 GMT
#15
Pelosi and Obama plan to have it on the floor by august.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
May 15 2009 03:32 GMT
#16
On May 15 2009 11:49 Jonoman92 wrote:
I think it's a bit silly the way our system is. It's illegal to drive a car without having it insured but health insurance on the other hand is a luxury of sorts. Most people that have it get it through their jobs. The people that don't most likely have crappy jobs that are the kind of jobs that have few or no benefits and along with that pay very little so that can't afford to get health insurance on their own.
I don't think it's fair to compare automobile insurance to health insurance. The reason why it's required for you to be insured when you drive, but not for your own health, is because of liability. Medical insurance isn't there to protect others from you, whereas car insurance is. Collision insurance, for example, is optional.
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Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 03:40:30
May 15 2009 03:39 GMT
#17
On May 15 2009 12:32 micronesia wrote:
I don't think it's fair to compare automobile insurance to health insurance. The reason why it's required for you to be insured when you drive, but not for your own health, is because of liability. Medical insurance isn't there to protect others from you, whereas car insurance is. Collision insurance, for example, is optional.


The irony of course being that someone would not be able to get preventive care, go to a hospital emergency room, and end up getting thousands of dollars worth of care which is ultimatly payed by the tax payer.


Its like making you pay for my car accident without you ever knowing about it.

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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
May 15 2009 07:04 GMT
#18
most jobs provide health insurance and even cover your family. i'm double covered under my parents' insurance as long as im in school full time. i dont pay jack for nothin.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
May 15 2009 07:10 GMT
#19
cAnadian medical is amazing. i talked to friends from there. basically, dont get hurt in the us if u are canadian
aznmathfreak
Profile Joined March 2009
United States148 Posts
May 15 2009 07:20 GMT
#20
I'm not an expert in the field, but from what I've read from various sources, public health care tends to provide poorer service to the patients on average. Since everyone's got good/equal coverage, everyone's in line to be cured of little aches and pains. I mean, privatized insurance companies means not everyone gets treatment, but it does also provide reasonable coverage to those that have it and create a strong incentive for people to get jobs.

As for the insurance, it's expensive, but for the bulk of the working class, their company helps to pay for that insurance - somewhere along the lines of 50-75% of the costs. Generally it's a month to month deduction from your work pay. It's one of the reason that having a stable job is so appealing. As for the expenses, it's generally determined by the facility providing the service, however there are cases where if the hospital/doctor's office is under a certain health insurance coverage, there are agreed price ceilings that the insurance company has set for the facility. For example, a doctor could charge 150 for a certain check up, but if you have a certain insurance company, the doctor might be obligated to charge only 125 to the insurance company, a portion of which you will have to pay as co-pay. Co-pay is basically the portion of the bill that the patient is responsible for. This varies from company to company as well as from what the procedure is for. All of that are set by the insurance company.

So if you don't have insurance, there's really no restrictions to the price you pay for your health care. It is ridiculously expensive here in the United States, so insurance is always desirable.
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