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On March 11 2009 23:06 LTT wrote: Just a note, the KP formula is KP(for n mafia) = MIN[2, Ceil(n/2) + Floor(n/6)] Its me or theres something weird in this formula? So mafia Kp=2? | ||
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On March 12 2009 16:01 Scaramanga wrote: OH YEAH BOYS, I WANNA BE APART OF ANOTHER 1 DAY RAPE OF MAIFA count me in chuiu you mafia this time, go roleclaim private eye please. | ||
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On March 17 2009 12:23 Qatol wrote: In accordance with our deal (the candidate who enticed the most TL staff/ex-staff to play gets my vote), I vote for BloodyC0bbler for sheriff/mayor Please can you link me to the deal? | ||
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#I vote Caller for sheriff And honestly all the BC stuff is rare to say the least. | ||
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On March 18 2009 08:22 fusionsdf wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2009 08:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I already said what i will do in my first platform, and have offered a plan and revised it to work. If you have fault with my stance, break apart my plan. I can clue analyze as well, I just realize day one analysis on its own is almost useless, we should all know that by now. 1) remember how randombum got pardoner? You should be able to realize how closely that parallels you, and why I am distrustful of anyone who gets a lot of early, unexplained votes. 2)here I'll distill your post for you: On March 17 2009 17:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Ok everyone, unlike the flashy gimicks of caller, I offer substance to my platform!. to start with heres my portfolio. Name: BloodyC0bbler Mafia experience: 5(6 if you count callers as two go's), 1 game run, 1 game co hosted Looking at just the one stat alone, I have the experience to lead this town to victory! In mafia 2, I was town aligned and we won, mafia 3 we as town dominated the mafia, mafia 4 was ruined by a jerkoff so well, can't really say much there. Tracils game ended early, but my side was winning. Callers first game ended day one with VI win, and his second game I as VI won. I have a high precident of winning the games on the side im part of, with ability, and luck like that, I would be an obvious goodluck charm for the town. I'm lucky. (You aren't plexa or ace, so I see no reason for you to claim the victory as being because of you. I've influenced at least 3 games far more strongly than you did) On March 17 2009 17:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Now, witha ll the extra things I do on TL (PX, Location thread, etc...) You guys know I spend way to much time here, giving me the most amount of time to really jump ontop of things, I can analyze clues well which is helpful in your sheriff. I'm dedicated. On March 17 2009 17:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: As sheriff or mayor, I will help guide the town where I can doing what I do best, Analysis. I can analyze clues, behaviour of players and guide us in a winning direction. As sheriff, I can jail 4 people in a game once per person, this allows me to save potential targets from mafia in a night, or jail the mafia lowering their KP. As mayor I can guide us towards killing the right suspect, and with a day 1 auto lynch, kill the person who is the most fishy to the town, but in the end, that will come to a consensus among the town first. I'm smart. Your plan: On March 17 2009 17:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Now for a plan. We all know the town works better when organized, as such, neither mayor nor sheriff can guide this town to victory without being under suspect (we always flip as mayor or sheriff regardless of any other role). So heres the plan. Medics protect veteran players early. When one of them takes a hit, the medic should roleclaim to that person AND that person should claim they took a hit. That person then gets checked. They get the medic checked as well. If BOTH check out, they both come out and serve as figureheads for the town. They coordinate blue abilities but keep information on to the town. When the person is hit they speak up. The sheriff then locks him up, protecting him from night hits while a dt checks him out. Once verified we repeat process with med, and have two figureheads, as opposed to the regular one. In the event the person who is hit doesnt speak up, the medic speaks up, we verify them first, then the one hit after. This is our best chance at getting town leadership quickly. Great. Unfortunately, Medics will know who the veterans are......how? If the medic knows they are a veteran, why do they have to wait for a hit? Just go ahead and claim medic and hope it isnt godfather, Veterans will be able to trust medics....why? Mafia will know a) we targetted X b) X didn't die c) X is either veteran or medic. If mafia suspects its a medic protection, they can just PM the guy claiming to be the medic. Now you have one veteran coming forward and 2 medics (or one (real) medic and no veteran). Mafia breaks at least even in both cases. Of course if it was in fact a veteran they risk coming out behind, but a risky mafia team might be willing to do it. You waste detective checks for little gain. You keep your veteran and medic alive how? You can't incarcerate them more than once, and you can only incarcerate one. Which means somehow you have to coordinate all the medics to protect the one you don;t incarcerate.... See the problem? There is absolutely no way you can tell the medics who to protect without telling the mafia which person you are incarcerating. Which means the smartest thing for mafia to do (luckily for you they dont have a suicide bomber) is attack everyone other than mayor. sheriff and those two people. Since guaranteed they will be unprotected. Then come back later and kill the person you didnt incarcerate (since they know its a blue and you cant protect them forever) Look, this is not a good plan, and will not give you a leadership structure. If a leadership structure has the smallest flaw, mafia instant wins. Are you that confident in this plan? Assuming the above is an out of date post since there isnt a veteran lol ninja edit, he meant veteran players, ace, ver wich are more likely to be hit by mafia. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + #I vote Pyrrhuloxia for sheriff As i said earlier this election is a random shot, theres no 100% good choice. And theres not too much to say about the clues, i guess we have to wait till mafia start killing. On a side note: in my experience there are up to 2 mafia writing in the thread. Normally mafia dont want too much attention at the start so im guessing at most 1 of them is running sheriff and 1 supporting him, the others are just hiding. | ||
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all the points argued in the thread until now were relative to: a way to create a 100% trusted public man, or a way to make sure vigi hits/medic protection dont overlap. About the first i came quite early that it was not possible so all the plans proposed about a vigi hit on mafia or a medic protecting had not only big holes but waste resources for the town. About the second point its clear that again theres not too much to do, *maybe vigi pre calling hits could be good but honestly that is more of a preference of the player. If i was a vigi i would just send my hit silently to a non-voter inactive player. I started the game voting caller blindly. I never pmd him and he never asked anything. I had the early choice to support BC but i simply chose caller because he worked a lot when he was in the office in AMW. As the votes start to pile in caller posts that he doesnt want to run anymore and i changed to phirrhuloxia, again i had nothing against sog and bc but at least phirr seemed to be interested in clue analisis, something that the other players didnt. Thats all about my voting pattern that makes me suspicious. | ||
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#I vote for mandalor #I vote for double lynch tomorrow | ||
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From the first post i tried to get small parts that looked like clues considering: -there should be refereces to all mafia -not necesarily all clues related to individuals. -Obviously there are more than 10 clues, what i selected were things that looked like clues + Show Spoiler + As night settled in the town of Liquidia all was silent. Except for the explosion in City Hall. The sheriff, Chuiu, ran out of his office across the street to see the building crumbling in on itself. He ran towards the building and stopped just at the steps when he spotted the mayor, Incognito, lying on the ground amongst the rubble. Chuiu helped Incognito to his feet and was briefed on the situation. A handful of individuals identifying themselves as part of the local mob family had destroyed City Hall in an attempt to kill Incognito. He got to the door just before the explosion and was caught in the shockwave. Chuiu took a few steps toward the building to see if he could find anyone in or around it. Then he spotted three running away from the back of the building. Chuiu ran after them and left Incognito alone. He finally caught up with them a few moments later as they were getting in a car. He noticed they weren't leaving right away, what could they be waiting for? It didn't matter, he made a quick call for backup and decided to catch them off guard before they had a chance to leave. Approaching with gun drawn he demanded they get out of their car. Two of them exited. They approached Chuiu slowly and he backed up to a safer distance keeping the gun aimed at them. When they stopped he lowered the gun slightly and told them to put their hands behind their backs and get on the ground, then he yelled at the third person to get out of the car. One of the mafia complied and began lowering down to the ground, Chuiu raised his gun at the other and yelled at him to do the same. But while he did so the mafia lowering himself sprinted toward Chuiu and with his hands still behind his head grabbed the gun and threw it to the side. He tackled Chuiu to the ground and then ran over to the gun and armed himself with it. The other mafia, now between Chuiu and the armed one, walked slowly up to Chuiu. He reached out his hand as if to help Chuiu up, Chuiu grabbed his hand with a puzzled look on his face and began to get up. But then the mafia pulled him close and stabbed him in the chest. They left Chuiu to bleed to death and got back into the car and drove to City Hall. Over at City Hall Incognito just realized something the mafia might have missed. He began sifting through the rubble thinking he could score something to help catch the mafia. What he didn't know was one stayed back to make sure he was dead. He was shoved forward while hunched over pulling some concrete away and smashed his head into a large chunk of debris. He turned himself around to face the man and knew that whatever could be found was lost. With one shot to the head Incognito's life was ended. As police began arriving one by one there were no witnesses or mafia to be found. Just the two bodies and the rubble where City Hall once stood. The town officials quickly set up a election to determine who would be the new Mayor and capable Sheriff to lead the town to safety from these dangerous criminals. Now for the second morning: -Again im selecting a lot more and not all this have to be clues but they are parts that *sound like clues to me. + Show Spoiler + A new theater had opened up in Liquidia and no one but a few who stumbled upon it knew. Those few would have the time of their lives. For within this theater wasn't a movie or a comedy or music, it was a drama. Once everyone was seated the doors were shut, bolted, and the lights dimmed. Everyone waited in anticipation for the show to start. They waited. Nothing happened. A couple started looking up towards the projector room and didn't even see a light. They got up and started to leave, one by one everyone followed and then a few people walked out of the shadows. The first person targeted was Camlito. He was walking toward one of the mafia asking for a refund. What he got was a punch to the face. Grabbing his eye in pain Camlito backed up and tried to get a good look at the person who struck him. It seemed like it was one of the theater attendants he saw on the way in but why would they hit him? He tried reasoning but another punch came instead, this time Camlito dodged and countered by shoving the man to the ground. Some articles fell from his pocket, torn ticket stubs, old popcorn, a dried up white flower; just trash he had picked up from the ground. He got up and more determined than ever tripped Camlito and grabbed him from the back of his head. He slammed Camlito into a chair several times. Camlito looked back and saw a glare in return and then his killer finished him off with a final crushing blow. During the fight three more had broken out. Scaramanga was down towards the bottom of the theater not really fighting but avoiding a man who was taunting him with a knife. He went from seat to isle to seat to stairs trying to avoid the man with the knife. When finally he saw there was nothing blocking the far door between him and his assailant he decided to try his luck and shove through the man. He successfully pushed his way through and ran towards the door, though once he opened it a small explosion triggered at several places and the walls came caving down on Scaramanga. Across from where Camlito had died Qatol was frozen still staring down a man dressed in black. He heard a clicking sound from the mans coat and was sure he was armed to the teeth, ready to shoot him any second. Well he inched his way back towards the seats while his would be killer stood a few rows up and waited. Once Qatol was close enough he decided to make a break for it, he ducked under the cover of the seats and started running towards Camlito's corpse; the area now vacant of any other mafia. He was halfway and didn't hear any gunshots so he looked up and saw the man jumping from seat to seat barely keeping his balance before he moved to the next one and slowly closing in. Qatol stood up and ran full speed now but it was too late, the man jumped down on him from behind and brought him to the ground. As they struggled Qatol saw a glint of metal and thinking it was a gun tried to push it away, but his hand wasn't pushing away something it was pushing in. The knife penetrated Qatols right hand and his killer was rocking it back and forth making the wound hurt more. Screaming in pain and losing his strength quickly Qatol had no chance of defending himself as the knife continued forth and penetrated his chest. But then there was one left. Ver had been fighting off someone pathetic at fighting and what looked like a biker full of snake tattoos, crosses, and other shit he couldn't make out. They had both armed themselves with knives but Ver was only afraid of the biker. He disarmed the other mafia and armed himself with the knife but the biker didn't attack yet. What Ver thought was a pathetic person came back after his knife. Ver slashed at him and he almost took a nasty gash to one of his arms. He went in again and caught Ver's arm just as he attacked again, this time he pried the knife from Ver's hand and tossed it to the side. The man then jumped down to the next row of seats and grabbed Ver's other arm, he held him there like some prisoner chained to a wall while his accomplice did all the nasty work. Ver's major arteries were stabbed into and they left him there to bleed out and die. Some themes that repeat over the 2 posts: -The three number. At first this made me think of 3 lions, but theres one more person: [r]tricode[/r], wich is quite more suspicious since his profile is empty (thus forcing the three reference). I havent read too much from him, but he voted BC and came up with this post On March 21 2009 08:16 Tricode wrote: this guy looks QUITE suspicious to me, im 80% sure hes mafia.Hey, isn't night suppose to be over by now? I would ask cob normally but he said something about not being online today much. Does anyone know when morning is suppose to happen? I'm kinda confused. -The one by one reference. Again i looked at the names and monoxide and ace came in, but also Rice is related. Its less obvious but the amount of leads to rice is increasing (yeah armed to the teeth and his profile pic). -Both posts have some sort of question marked: what could they be waiting for? why would they hit him? This can be related to some sort of inquisitor or philosoper im not sure about this or how to relate to a player -The reference to crumble crumbling in on itself walls came caving down on Scaramanga -The guy that gives a glare to camlito and the puzzled look from Chuiu -Reference to duck and to lower to spring foward. -The guy that cant fight and ties ver reminds me of the Dark Archon and could be MoC (this is not really related) Since all of them are equally posible and most im unable yet to find a better choice i think the best bet here is to go either Rice or Tricode. lol I just read the claim for sog. Ill keep my vote on mandalor However KEEP AN EYE ON RICE and TRICODE note how RICE he came to defend himself furiously after being pointed PEOPLE vote dobule lynch tomorrow. | ||
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sog: im not sure but both posts have a change in the narrator what could they be waiting for? why would they hit him? id like to ask for a caller cluecheck about anyone of them. Others: frozen-> icysoul local mob family-> motbob three-> tricode | ||
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On March 23 2009 14:19 semioldguy wrote: Also I need a clue from Day One to check for myself. I dont understand a clue to check to link to a player or a clue to check if it is a clue? please read page 45 i tried to link both sets of clues On March 23 2009 14:24 motbob wrote: So if the clue writer uses the word "mob" at any point, it implies I deserve clue check? psh. Join Teamliquid Whatpulse Team! -> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=52126 LOCAL MOB FAMILY On March 23 2009 14:08 malongo wrote: SoG id like a role check on screw that id better rolecheck infundibulum, caller, chaoser or jl13. | ||
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On March 23 2009 14:35 Tricode wrote: Malongo, why rolecheck babyhands or any of those others? I think I am understanding the game better and if i understand it right, your asking for SoG to waste a rolecheck(s)? Also i posted my reasons of why i asked on page 47. I think you are kinda making a lot of demands already and I would prefer you giving more evidence. Look at BC's analysis can you give something more like that. All you have given is some words you spotted and looking any way to accuse someone. Actually i remade my statement and didnt call for the rolecheck on Mrbabyhands. Maybe you are understanding the game better (LOL) but remember that not all dts can rolecheck now because rolechecks cant be consecutive. Im not making a demand (how could i demand somehing?) im proposing clues to the dts to use the cluechecks (they have to use them) so im guessing you dont understand the game better . And for my "random words" maybe you can give us more to work? have you proposed something? and for the last just remember how "sharp" conducted to ra.xor last game, my clue proposal may look simple yet they are all possible. A last note to motbob: If you are inocent why do you fear a cluecheck? im missing something? if someone made a call for a cluecheck like that for me id try to suggest a better target instead of your answer. I also noted that your vote came in quite late when the lynch was decided. Again you and tricode posts dont add much but rather look like mafia. | ||
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