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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 17 2016 17:25 GMT
#28
/in if it doesn't start for a few days
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 20 2016 01:02 GMT
#101
On April 20 2016 07:30 Koshi wrote:
My vote will be on the person who I think contributed the least and will be the hardest to read town in future days.

I've been considering trying a meta like this too. Think I'm going to join you this game.
On April 20 2016 07:39 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 07:34 Damdred wrote:
Hello I'd advise everyone but koshi to put a number in your post so that you can keep a better check on them. Koshis just awesome enough he doesn't need it.

I think we should policy lynch hts for two reasons.

We have a pretty good chance to hit scum and she is probably drinking whiskey which is her scum drink of choice.

Fight against the powers and game mod tyranny of hts by striking her down here!

[1]

Lol Damdred.

I personally hate Plynchs in general tbh. Prob. because I like content and not luck in lynching someone lol (even though I rarely make it easy for people to read me as town via content )

Also yes, was bout to do this.

[3][3/5 for off the bat]

Why do you take this opportunity to talk about plynches
On April 20 2016 09:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 09:32 Tictock wrote:
Oh cool, this started already.

I'll check in later when there is stuff to read.

kinda dislike this post because he blatantly doesn't want to stir up discussion.

I give this post a 1 out of 1. There wasn't much to make out of this, but you made all you could. Well done.

Bam look at this efficiency I do in one post what you do in three
Also was that gumshoe vote not a joke
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 20 2016 02:02 GMT
#107
On April 20 2016 10:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Are you being serious right now SL?

3

speaking on behalf of SL
no
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 20 2016 05:38 GMT
#110
Shape, why did you use Damdred's obvious joke as an opportunity to discuss plynches? I know that he mentioned them, but your post was a non sequitur still. Please explain.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 20 2016 14:57 GMT
#131
Shape is dangerously close to a "disappointing answers" scumread.
HtS is throwing me off because he's (she's?) scumreading me and LS and those are the only two people I'm thinking are town so far. The arguments feel a bit stretched but so is everything at this stage. Null for now but will become a scumread if this continues.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 20 2016 16:26 GMT
#139
On April 21 2016 00:19 Half the Sky wrote:
5/40

FYI, yes I am (the lone) female in this game.

Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 23:57 Tumblewood wrote:
Shape is dangerously close to a "disappointing answers" scumread.
HtS is throwing me off because he's (she's?) scumreading me and LS and those are the only two people I'm thinking are town so far. The arguments feel a bit stretched but so is everything at this stage. Null for now but will become a scumread if this continues.


Why is LS town?

Aside from (potentially) myself, and Shape as mentioned, as scumreads, Tumbleweed, why are you not townreading or leaning some of the others? Particularly Damdred, Koshi and Tictock and the content that they've produced?

At the very least I'm curious to hear on this. Are you actually scumreading anyone else?

Additionally, are you suggesting that how I am scumreading you is coming from a scum point of view?

I have never played with you before so that is what I tend to do with unfamiliar players if I find something questionable.

I liked LS's comment that Tictock was making a post to say that he wouldn't be contributing. The only people I am considering as possible scum right now are you, Shape, and TT but that's obviously subject to change. I am townleaning Koshi because of his solid entrance, but I don't think that Damdred has done anything he couldn't do as scum.
I am also getting used to your style, so I can't yet be sure whether your method of reading me is scummy or just unfamiliar. It would also help to know whether you have a tendency to be overexplainy as town/scum.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 20 2016 16:36 GMT
#140
On April 21 2016 00:50 Half the Sky wrote:
6/40

Shapelog, I'll rephrase the question.

Tumbleweed, on the basis you townread LS (and I argued why it was poor), why couldn't that same critieria also come from mafia?

That is mainly what I was trying to get at. I feel the bases for all his reads are pretty weak and I just don't know if that's his style (which you are contending) or whether he's actually mafia, the posts seem scummy to me.

Also regarding post 134, the inset is part of the reason I scumread LS, double standard. Also just because I vote someone doesn't mean it's final. If I have reason to second guess my thinking or I find a better lynch I can always unvote.

I think it's townie because that's the kind of post scum just ignores. After playing Storm and XX with him, I don't really scumread him for having bad reasons for his reads, because that seems to be NAI for him.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 20 2016 17:37 GMT
#143
On April 21 2016 01:48 Koshi wrote:
Pure on guts I am inclined to believe LS over HTS. Rereading HTS her posts I somehow can see it coming from scum because it is pretty emotionless and at points over explained.

I also have a feeling that she can't or won't commit on a read on FF and hides after a lot of words and "lazy meta can go both ways"


I am also thinking I like Tumble his last post. That actually sounds like townie reasoning.


So I actually am more inclined to lynch HtS over FF atm but I am going to stick on FF.


I could comment on more things I think but I don't want to be the driving force behind any conversation.

Like this post but mostly because it affirms what I was already saying. Why don't you want to be the driving force behind conversation?
On April 21 2016 02:11 GlowingBear wrote:
4
Ok since SL never answered me, I must say I don't like his posts

He has an opening calling Damdred "null" (the only thing I can understabd from bolding a name) because damdred was wasting posts. This is bad because:

1) It is impossible to have contentful posts in the beginning of the game
2) Calling someone null is saying something someone did is not alignment indicative, which means (I) he is wasting a post because he is saying nothing contributive, and (ii) he is trying to look contributive while saying nothing at all.

Wanting to lynch LS in the beginning of the game for wasting posts just reinforces this perspective

Also like this post, GB gets to be a townlean for now. Solid, original insight.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 20 2016 17:40 GMT
#144
Actually no
The post I think you're talking about-- are you sure that's serious? Could easily be a joke or to get a reaction.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 05:25 GMT
#217
Phoneposting so no filter-diving for now but everyone is asking the inactives (that's me!) to at least tell where they stand so whatever.

town
Koshi for Koshi-ness
LS for defending me in a way that resonated with me (but oh no am I really the new LS)

town lean
Damdred for feeeels
TT for actually having a stance and trying, unlike the two scum games I played with him
I liked something from GB earlier and didn't dislike anything else does that count

scum lean
HtS feels unnatural to me but I don't know her meta... sources say it is just her meta but sources also scumread her so
SL for being useless but eh I'm not so into this one

null
Most people
I feel like I should have an opinion on FF but I don't
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 05:26 GMT
#218
HtS, why did you switch to toenleaning me? I didn't really post anything between scumlean and town lean so I don't see where that came from.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 15:35 GMT
#234
Liking Fidei right now. 9.5/10 would not lynch
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 15:42 GMT
#236
I don't agree with DYH's read on Shape, but I don't fault him for it because AFAIK they haven't played together.
Looks like Shape is doing standard Shape stuff so far, but pls actually put yourself out there with some reads.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 19:53 GMT
#266
On April 22 2016 04:08 Tictock wrote:
Napped longer than I expected.

That reads post from GB actually seems pretty good after a quick read. A bit hesitent to call him town though because I've seen him screw around and save his effort for EoD before as scum. Still his thoughts felt pretty coherent and reasonsble ... Idk I think I'll reevalueate after rereading the game.

@HtS About the time. I asked FF whathis thoughts on Damdred where I glanced back at his filter myself. I got the sense that his early posts where half joking half stirring up discussion which made me lean town. Since then I haven't gotten any strong feels off him.

The posts I quoted from Tumble about GB felt off to me since Tumble jumped in early on to tell GB that he was joking, but then called GB's case on SL "solid thinking" when it was about the same thing he was saying was a joke earlier. Then he caught that and retracted that read a bit. It came off to me like Tumble wasn't paying attention to what GB was talking about there even though he was around when GB first started questioning those posts from SL.

@ Shape, My read on Tumble hasn't really changed. That line just continues to bug me kus it's a weird thing for town to say. He basically said he considers LS to be as towny as himself, which either means hes totally sure LS is town or that he's not really thinking of himself as town.

The reads post from GB seems good + he sometimes screws around until EoD = still hesitant to call him town? I don't see why that would make you more hesitant.
Re: GB, that was because filters don't give context.
Re: LS, of course I'm more confident in my towniness than LS.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 20:15 GMT
#267
On April 22 2016 04:43 Koshi wrote:
7. DoYouHas
9. GlowingBear
12. gumshoe

These 3 people look fine to lynch. I think I want to keep HTS around. But I think LS is at least twice more townie than HTS. But I don't know if I want to lynch in them atm.

I do not want to lynch any of those people except maybe DYH
Gumshoe will probably make his alignment obvious, given time. GB is just town though.
Agree on keeping HtS around because I don't want to lynch her if she is town.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 20:55 GMT
#275
On April 22 2016 05:45 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure why SL jeeps somehow avoiding people's lists, he's almost done the least amount in game and hasn't posted in forever.

Besides that I am curious how tumble has such a hard town read on gb in this situation?

I highly value when people make perceptive points (aka good with non-obvious evidence) and GB has two good posts like that. Also not such a definitive read, perhaps I should have phrased it as "because he appears town."
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 21:47 GMT
#305
aahhhhhh FF's filter is so bad
On April 20 2016 08:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think the only alignment indicative thing so far is gumshoe acting like there's been anything alignment indicative so far.

2

like what is this
this is so bad
and how did I not see it earlier
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 21:54 GMT
#310
On April 22 2016 06:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
I have a bunch of posts left wanna fight about it? Why is that bad?

Bad because a) there were AI things there and b) gumshoe treats everything as if it's AI
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 21:59 GMT
#315
Voting sicklucker? I don't know why everyone switched all of a sudden.
Going now but will be back just before deadline.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 22:29 GMT
#386
Now I'm back and kinda caught up
1 minute goes by though and there are five more posts to read
probably going to make sense of this all at eod but glad to see you all sheeping me
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