• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:28
CEST 23:28
KST 06:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!33Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Pros React To: Calm's Big Brain Play Vs Mini ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro24 Group F BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Browser Invoker Combo Trainer & Speedrun Simulator Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6591 users

Top 50 streamers March 2015

Forum Index > SC2 General
34 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 Next All
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 04 2015 21:17 GMT
#1
Welcome this month's top 50 streamers list.

In terms of viewer numbers, this will most likely be the most boring thread yet. Sure, the LotV beta just started a few days ago, but in these threads we're looking at the viewer numbers for the previous month, and March had a distinct lack of LotV streams, as it turns out.

That doesn't mean that March wasn't without a good deal of excitement. Unfortunately, it was the non-fun kind, and as the guy ranking streamers by their viewer numbers I'm forced to make a statement, as much as I'd like to just ignore past drama and move on.

I have defended accusations of viewbotting against Winter in the past, and the whole thing leaves me scratching my head to this day. If he is a viewbotter, what did he gain from (supposedly) paying hundreds of dollars for months on end? Even with a sponsorship and some legit subscriptions, I doubt he'd end up making much money. If he is not a viewbotter, how can all the circumstantial evidence to the contrary be explained?

Ultimately, I don't know. And while I'm not one to partake in angry mobs that can form at certain other places, the circumstantial evidence that was provided was convincing enough to de-feature Winter here on teamliquid, and I feel compelled to agree with the official reasoning:
We recognise that Winter, as a direct consequence of being boosted by viewbotting services, has attracted a legitimate viewerbase and even some legitimate subscribers. But it is impossible for us to measure the strength of that legitimate viewership in relation to our normal featuring standards while viewbotting continues on Winter's channel.

As such, I have removed Winter from the current top 50 lists.

For full disclosure, I have also removed (or never included, rather) IMBACoach, who has been viewbotting quite blatantly in the past few weeks. He has recently been banned from twitch, making his viewbotting official, so to speak. Twitch did not take any action against Winter, it should be noted.

Anyhow, off to the lists!

Table of contents
  • Huh? What's this?
  • Top 50 streamers in March 2015
    • Sorted by avg. viewer
    • Sorted by avg. viewer * hours streamed
    • Stray observations and musings
  • The big picture
  • WCS/GSL
  • Proleague
  • Older entries


Huh? What's this?

For those of you who don't already know what this is about: I'm gathering various data (viewers, game, events, etc.) from all the streams that are presented on teamliquid.net (those that you can in the sidebar to your right) and use that data to produce the pretty tables and graphs you see below. The tables only contain SC2 players (that is, streams of people playing games of Starcraft 2) and not casters, teams or other streams. The tables also only contain Starcraft 2 related activities. So, for instance when CatZ is streaming Dota2, it will not be taken into account.

The data I gather is then turned into the tables you see below. One is sorted by the average viewers, the other is sorted by the average viewers times the hours streamed. The latter table favors those that stream a lot, while the former table favors popular streamers regardless of how much they stream. Either ranking has its advantages and disadvantages, and thus I present both.

For either table, I have a minimum required stream time of 5 hours to be included in the list.

The list


Due to space limitations, I have to shorten the headers and leave some data out of the tables presented here. You can get the full tables from the links below.
The headers aren't as clear as I'd like them to be thanks to this, so here's a quick explanation, just in case: "Viewers" denotes the average viewers in the given month. "Hours" are the hours played. "Place diff" and "Viewer diff" are the place and viewer differences compared to last month.

Also, the HTML version linked beneath the images has some more information that I had to leave out due to space limitation, most notably the featured status of the players.

Now, Without further ado, here's this month's tables:

[image loading]
(HTML version here)


[image loading]
(HTML version here)


Stray observations and musings

  • Naniwa remains on the #1 spot in the average viewers category, despite losing a good amount of viewers, again. Congrats!
  • For the first time in who knows how many months, the #1 spot in the viewerhour category is not one of the usual suspects. Congrats, RotterdaM!
  • For what it's worth, Winter had an average of 1729 viewers last month, streaming 235.25 hours. That would have put him at the #2 spot in the viewers category, and the #1 spot in the viewerhours category.
  • Notable streamers who made it to last month's list, but did not make it this month or who did not stream at all: Destiny, Jaedong, Taeja
  • If you find any mistakes or errors in the lists, please do let me know, especially concerning team changes or players that you are absolutely sure should be on the lists, but are not.


The big picture


[image loading]
(The actual numbers are not important, it's the ratio between month that's important.)

Note that these are player streams only.

Who cares? We're all waiting to see how this graph will look like next months, right?

WCS/GSL


[image loading]


Close to 30.000 viewers on average for the GSL finals. Not bad.

Proleague


[image loading]


That's all for this month. Hope you guys enjoyed, as always. Any kind of feedback is always welcome!


Older entries
+ Show Spoiler +
  • Top 50 streamers February 2015
  • Top 50 streamers January 2015
  • Top 100 streamers of 2014 (+ Top 50 of December)
  • Top 50 streamers in November 2014
  • Top 50 streamers in October 2014
  • Top 50 streamers in September 2014
  • Top 50 streamers in August 2014 (abridged version)
  • Top 50 streamers in July 2014
  • Top 50 streamers in June 2014
  • Top 50 streamers in May 2014
  • Top 50 streamers in April 2014
  • Top 50 streamers in March 2014
  • Top 50 streamers in February 2014
  • Top 50 streamers in January 2014
  • Top 100 streamers of 2013 (+ Top 50 of December)
  • Top 50 streamers in November 2013
  • Top 50 streamers in October 2013 (+ WCS numbers)
  • Top 50 streamers in September 2013 (+ WCS numbers)
  • Top 50 streamers in August 2013 (plus WCS numbers)
  • Top 50 streamers in July 2013 (plus WCS numbers)
  • Top 50 streamers in June 2013 (plus WCS numbers)
  • Top 50 streamers in May 2013 (plus WCS numbers)
  • Top 50 streamers in April 2013 (+ WCS/GSTL/SPL!)
  • Top 50 streamers in March 2013 (HotS numbers!)
  • Top 50 streamers in February 2013 + Proleague/GSL
  • Top 50 streamers in Jan.2013+Proleague/GSL viewers
  • Top 50 streamers in Dec 2012 (plus Top 100 2012!*)
  • Top 50 streamers in November 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in October 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in September 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in August 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in July 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in June 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in May 2012
  • Who is the most popular streamer?(Numbers inside!) (March-April 2012)
Facebook Twitter Reddit
King David
Profile Joined April 2014
South Africa28 Posts
April 04 2015 21:53 GMT
#2
"For what it's worth... Winter" Who cares. He's a cheat. He didn't get what was due to him.
"Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day; Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.Give a man 5 beers an..."
kaluro
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands760 Posts
April 04 2015 21:56 GMT
#3
You should make a list of streamers per hours streamed also, not just hours*viewers.
Since that creates an even bigger monopoly position for the already popular streamers.
If you add one with just hours streamed, unknown full time streamers would get more exposure.

www.twitch.tv/kaluroo - 720p60fps - Remember the name! - Don't do your best, do whatever it takes.
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
April 04 2015 21:59 GMT
#4
In your list is says Ruff is teamless, this should be Team Ascension
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46309 Posts
April 04 2015 22:17 GMT
#5
Thanks for the monthly data analysis!

Will you have new bars/ stats for LotV in April?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
flipstar
Profile Joined January 2011
226 Posts
April 04 2015 22:21 GMT
#6
Good to see Winter still going strong.
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
April 04 2015 22:26 GMT
#7
I think it's possible for Destiny to break 500k viewers*hours this month.
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
April 04 2015 22:38 GMT
#8
It's nice to see the dedicated streamers once again at the top of the list (the real one V*H), tho, there's a little problem with HTOMario being listed because we know why.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46309 Posts
April 04 2015 22:46 GMT
#9
On April 05 2015 07:38 HomeWorld wrote:
It's nice to see the dedicated streamers once again at the top of the list (the real one V*H), tho, there's a little problem with HTOMario being listed because we know why.


Why? I missed the memo.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
April 04 2015 22:46 GMT
#10
April is gonna be fun =)
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
April 04 2015 22:52 GMT
#11
On April 05 2015 07:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 07:38 HomeWorld wrote:
It's nice to see the dedicated streamers once again at the top of the list (the real one V*H), tho, there's a little problem with HTOMario being listed because we know why.


Why? I missed the memo.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/480649-revised-featured-stream-requirements-for-2015
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
April 04 2015 23:49 GMT
#12
On April 05 2015 07:21 flipstar wrote:
Good to see Winter still going strong.

what? he's not on the list.
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
flipstar
Profile Joined January 2011
226 Posts
April 05 2015 00:31 GMT
#13
On April 05 2015 08:49 Redrot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 07:21 flipstar wrote:
Good to see Winter still going strong.

what? he's not on the list.


"For what it's worth, Winter had an average of 1729 viewers last month, streaming 235.25 hours. That would have put him at the #2 spot in the viewers category, and the #1 spot in the viewerhours category."

From OP
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
April 05 2015 02:45 GMT
#14
On April 05 2015 09:31 flipstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 08:49 Redrot wrote:
On April 05 2015 07:21 flipstar wrote:
Good to see Winter still going strong.

what? he's not on the list.


"For what it's worth, Winter had an average of 1729 viewers last month, streaming 235.25 hours. That would have put him at the #2 spot in the viewers category, and the #1 spot in the viewerhours category."

From OP



Let's do a little correcting there

"For what it's worth, Winter had an average of 29 actual viewers and 1700 viewbots last month, streaming 235.25 hours. That would have put him nowhere in the viewers category, and the #1 spot in the viewerhours category."
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Cazimirbzh
Profile Joined February 2014
334 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-05 04:39:11
April 05 2015 03:27 GMT
#15
Ty for the awesome work, COnti.

On April 05 2015 06:17 Conti wrote:
If he is a viewbotter, what did he gain from (supposedly) paying hundreds of dollars for months on end? Even with a sponsorship and some legit subscriptions, I doubt he'd end up making much money. If he is not a viewbotter, how can all the circumstantial evidence to the contrary be explained?


Viewbotting is bad, viewbotting is cheap(500v/200$/1y), viewbotting is sneaky(benefactor/victim). There is not much else to say.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
April 05 2015 05:18 GMT
#16
Thank you so much for this conti. I was wondering if you could remove winter's stats starting from April since it seems that's when he started view botting
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
April 05 2015 05:27 GMT
#17
Winter and ImbaCoaching removed you'd have to be naive to believe no one else ever has view-botted in the past few years to pump up their Twitch.tv #s.

Twitch wants their numbers to look as high as possible so they do nothing about view-boting.
this makes it difficult to take any viewer #s Twitch produces seriously.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
April 05 2015 05:31 GMT
#18
Stardust left mYinsanity some time ago, and is currently teamless.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
April 05 2015 06:55 GMT
#19
Now for the question on everyone's mind....

what colour will the lotv bars have?!
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4996 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-05 07:25:22
April 05 2015 07:25 GMT
#20
On April 05 2015 15:55 nkr wrote:
Now for the question on everyone's mind....

what colour will the lotv bars have?!

Liquipedia will have a light green
Administrator@FO_nTTaX | FO-nTTaX.de | 0xff0000.dev | Senior Lead Liquipedia Developer
"Nimm es. Es ist nicht viel, aber es kommt von Herzen. Vergiss mich nicht!"
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 32m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 208
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 26815
Dewaltoss 128
sSak 42
Dota 2
monkeys_forever309
LuMiX0
League of Legends
Doublelift6161
JimRising 380
Counter-Strike
minikerr87
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King70
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor274
Other Games
gofns15744
Liquid`RaSZi3088
Grubby2387
fl0m2203
C9.Mang0249
ToD248
KnowMe98
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV57
StarCraft 2
angryscii 36
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 12
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 20
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21925
Other Games
• imaqtpie1362
• Scarra1093
• Shiphtur187
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
12h 32m
Afreeca Starleague
12h 32m
Monday Night Weeklies
18h 32m
GSL
1d 13h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-27
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
RSL Revival: Season 6
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.