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Top 50 streamers in November 2012

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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
December 02 2012 12:33 GMT
#1
Howdy there and welcome to the top 50 streamers list thread for this month!


Huh? What's this?

For those of you who don't already know what this is about: I'm gathering various data from all the streams that are presented on teamliquid.net (viewers, game, events, etc.) and use that data to produce the pretty tables you see below. The tables only contain SC2 players (that is, people streaming games of Starcraft 2 being played by themselves) and not casters, teams or other streams. The tables also only contain Starcraft 2 related activities, a SC2 streamer streaming Dota2 or other games is not being taken into account.


For live stream data, go and visit soiii's site http://sc2streamnumbers.com/ where you can check out detailed graphs of stream viewers of every stream. (Thread here). Please check it out, it's pretty awesome. I thought about doing something like that at some point, but soiii did it way better and prettier than I could've ever done.


The list


Due to space limitations, I have to shorten the headers and leave some data out of the tables presented here. You can get the full tables from the links below.
The headers aren't as clear as I'd like them to be thanks to this, so here's a quick explanation, just in case: "Viewers" denotes the average viewers in the given month. "Hours" are the hours played. "Place diff" and "Viewer diff" are the place and viewer differences compared to last month. And "HotS%" is the percentage of Heart of the Swarm streaming compared to Wings of Liberty. A full green bar means the player streamed only HotS, a grey bar means he only streamed WoL.

Now, Without further ado, here's this month's tables:

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(The actual numbers are not important, so ignore the y axis numbers. It's the ratio between month that's important.)


There's a clear downwards trend in overall numbers, but I wouldn't interpret too much into it. Two months ago we had the HotS beta to blame. A good portion of people switched over to watching streamers play the beta, and when the players went back to play the game they're getting paid for, the viewers didn't follow. Last month we had a large number of huge tournaments (MLG, WCS, IEM, Dreamhack..), and they are most likely to blame for the lack of player stream viewers. The numbers for the next few months will be more telling.

Some stray observations

  • Koreans! Polt, MarineKing and Bomber, among others, were all streaming again some last month. They got pretty decent numbers, too, all things considered.
  • Well, sort of. MarineKing's stream currently consists of English commentary of MKP replays, not live games being played by him. It's an interesting concept, and it doesn't seem to hurt the viewer numbers at all.
  • Speaking of interesting concepts, Weedamins has one, too: Leave the stream on while sleeping. At least that's what happened when I checked his stream. He still had about 100 viewers at the time, which is quite impressive, considering that there was nothing to actually watch. I don't know if that's a regular thing or not, but it certainly would explain the insane hours.
  • Looks like the EG guys took last month's suggestion to heart. Idra, Incontrol, Machine and LzGaMeR all streamed lots of HotS last month. MorroW went back to streaming SC2, though, losing some viewers int he process.
  • Congratulations to Turuk for being the only non-featured streamer (apart from the ever-present Taiwanese player Hui) to make it on the viewer number list.
  • Destiny barely made it into the list with 5 hours of SC2 content this month. That's down from 137 hours from the month before. Looks like he's serious about his switch to LoL.
  • Some notable absentees this month: Stephano (), Grubby, Apollo, Ret, DIMAGA, LucifroN, RotterdaM, VortiX.
Well, That's all I can think of for now. Hope you guys enjoyed!


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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 02 2012 12:40 GMT
#2
Thanks again, always interesting. That being said i agree there were too many tournaments, which made people watch way less player streams. But the downtrend is still there anyway but i'm certain it'll go upwards again when HotS is really out. Gonna take a while though.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
December 02 2012 12:42 GMT
#3
You telling me Hui streamed 6h 44min a day on average? :o
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
December 02 2012 12:45 GMT
#4
The numbers are dropping like crazy. Not so long ago Idra's stream was regularly peaking over 10k.
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
December 02 2012 13:07 GMT
#5
Keep up the good work! Hopefully the numbers will rise despite all negativity going around.
I'm Quotable (IQ)
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12627 Posts
December 02 2012 13:12 GMT
#6
I don't think destiny plays sc2 anymore, not this month anyway
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
December 02 2012 13:38 GMT
#7
Lack of Koreans has probably got a large factor in the steady decline of stream numbers.
Clawfinger
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada221 Posts
December 02 2012 15:04 GMT
#8
I have a feeling that 2013 will see a different trend. the lowest point will probably be right before HotS, and then it should go up. I'm not too worried in general about numbers though, Starcraft 2 is still a huge e-sport, and IPL5 has really shown that tournaments are still progressing which is great. nice post though
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
December 02 2012 15:12 GMT
#9
Can this be done for LoL too? :O
Flaf?
SKDN
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden243 Posts
December 02 2012 15:15 GMT
#10
You have to keep in mind that there are alot more tournaments now than in april
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
December 02 2012 15:29 GMT
#11
On December 03 2012 00:15 SKDN wrote:
You have to keep in mind that there are alot more tournaments now than in april


also, no stephano
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
December 02 2012 15:29 GMT
#12
In my opinion, there are to less Protoss streams in the Top 10. Only 2. Sad that Grubby didn't streamed that much in the past week.

Anyway, thanks for this thread!
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
December 02 2012 15:45 GMT
#13
On December 03 2012 00:12 Jamial wrote:
Can this be done for LoL too? :O

Yes and no.

I only gather data from teamliquid.net at the moment, that is, all the streams that you can find at http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/ . That list contains practically every single SC2 stream out there, but that's not true for LoL (or Dota2). So I could give you only a very incomplete picture of all the LoL streams that bothered to register with teamlliquid.

I considered gathering data in a similar way from http://www.solomid.net/, but haven't yet bothered to do so, since I'm not much of an LoL guy, and I'm not part of that community. I am also thinking about doing a similar list for Dota2, now that TL.net officially covers it. So far, though, there are not even enough streams listed to make a proper "top 50" list. I also do not know how big a percentage of the Dota2 streams out there have registered with TL.net.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
December 02 2012 15:50 GMT
#14
I hope that the Startale players stream more in the coming year. I think Bomber and Parting should have a lot of new fans and potential viewers given how they've been playing lately.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
December 02 2012 16:04 GMT
#15
On December 02 2012 21:45 Psyclon wrote:
The numbers are dropping like crazy. Not so long ago Idra's stream was regularly peaking over 10k.


The total number is a little bit misleading, they have removed Destiny, who was almost always number one total because he switched to LoL. He is still doing the same amount or more streaming but just a different game.
esports
sHt_
Profile Joined January 2011
France239 Posts
December 02 2012 16:05 GMT
#16
Hui hours numbers are fucking scary ( btw i think you added a day to the month for your math JustPassingBy , it's 6h57 on average, not that it makes that much of a difference anyway, still fucking scary)
In Blizzard's imaginary world, players sit at home devising plans to maximize the usage of destructible rocks (c) Ver
TheWahbinator
Profile Joined September 2010
United States131 Posts
December 02 2012 16:41 GMT
#17
On December 03 2012 00:12 Jamial wrote:
Can this be done for LoL too? :O

I've been collecting lol data for this month in a similar way to this sc2 data, and if there's enough interest I can probably get some tables of averages generated.
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
December 02 2012 16:55 GMT
#18
lol weedamins.
xD
My religion is Starcraft
KnowMe
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 00:56:48
December 02 2012 17:00 GMT
#19
http://www.facebook.com/KnowMeSc2 https://twitter.com/YouBetterKnowMe
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
December 02 2012 17:07 GMT
#20
pretty cool to see how stuff dropped off during the busy month of Nov
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