• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:03
CET 00:03
KST 08:03
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy5ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises0Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool42Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block
Tourneys
World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
Soulkey's decision to leave C9 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ JaeDong's form before ASL [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary [ASL21] Ro24 Group A [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
U4GM Tips Counter Enemy Gadgets Fast in Black Ops rsvsr How to Keep Reward Chains Rolling in Monopol u4gm What to Do First in MLB The Show 26 Spring
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1554 users

Top 50 streamers in September 2013 (+ WCS numbers)

Forum Index > SC2 General
89 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 16:07:39
October 01 2013 12:58 GMT
#1
Welcome this month's edition of the top 50 streamers list.

Table of contents
  • Huh? What's this?
  • Top 50 streamers in September 2013
    • Sorted by avg. viewer
    • Sorted by avg. viewer * hours streamed
    • Stray observations
  • The big picture
  • WCS
  • GSTL vs. ATC vs. SC2L
  • Older entries


Huh? What's this?

For those of you who don't already know what this is about: I'm gathering various data (viewers, game, events, etc.) from all the streams that are presented on teamliquid.net (those that you can in the sidebar to your right) and use that data to produce the pretty tables and graphs you see below. The tables only contain SC2 players (that is, streams of people playing games of Starcraft 2) and not casters, teams or other streams. The tables also only contain Starcraft 2 related activities. So, for instance when CatZ is streaming Dota2, it will not be taken into account.

The data I gather is then turned into the tables you see below. One is sorted by the average viewers, the other is sorted by the average viewers times the hours streamed. The latter table favors those that stream a lot, while the former table favors popular streamers regardless of how much they stream. Either ranking has its advantages and disadvantages, and thus I present both.

For either table, I have a minimum required stream time of 5 hours to be included in the list.

The list


Due to space limitations, I have to shorten the headers and leave some data out of the tables presented here. You can get the full tables from the links below.
The headers aren't as clear as I'd like them to be thanks to this, so here's a quick explanation, just in case: "Viewers" denotes the average viewers in the given month. "Hours" are the hours played. "Place diff" and "Viewer diff" are the place and viewer differences compared to last month.

Also, the HTML version linked beneath the images has some more information that I had to leave out due to space limitation, most notably the featured status of the players.

Also also, go and check out Fuzic! Stijn created the awesome looking website with all kinds of stream viewership data. It's much better suited for immediate numbers and analyzing numbers from singular events. Also, it's way prettier than anything I could've ever design. (Note that his project is completely independent from mine, so if you have any questions about it, please ask him and not me. )

Now, Without further ado, here's this month's tables:

[image loading]
(HTML version here)


[image loading]
(HTML version here)


Stray observations

  • Grubby is at it again, taking a comfortable first place over DeMusliM. And this time it's a true first place, as Flash was not streaming at all last months. Congratulations!
  • Destiny is still pretty popular, despite being retired and out of the SC2 scene for quite a while now. In fact, he got over a thousand more viewers on average playing SC2 than playing League!
  • The largest drops in viewers this months are Polt, SeleCT and HuK, each losing about a thousand viewers on average. Ouch.
  • With Dragon retiring, this might be the last time we see him at the top of the viewers*hours list, but who knows.
  • PainUser scaled back his streaming habit a bit and was streaming a more reasonable 11 hours a day last month.
  • Congratulations to the German Protoss Honor for being the unfeatured streamer with the highest average viewer count last month, even beating the ever present Taiwanese streamer Hui!
  • Bisu would have made it easily into the list if it would also include BW streams. He'd be at #12 with 1754 average viewers, and a peak of 2263. Of course, that are only the numbers from snipealot's restream on twitch, and do not take into account the original viewer numbers from his afreeca stream. Brood War ain't dead!
  • Here's some information on some of the lesser known names in the lists:
    • (Wiki)Hui:Hui is a Taiwanese player who is mostly playing in the TeSL. His fanbase seems to be found mostly outside of teamliquid and in the Taiwanese community, unsurprisingly.
    • Tara Babcock: She's an, ahem, model. Google her.
    • (P)KingCobra: He's a Russian streamer and commentator, mostly playing daily and weekly cups.
  • Notable absentees this month: Snute, HyuN, Sage.
  • If you find any mistakes or errors in the lists, please do let me know, especially concerning team changes or players that you are absolutely sure should be on the lists, but are not.


The big picture


[image loading]
(The actual numbers are not important, it's the ratio between month that's important.)

Note that these are player streams only.

Much like the previous month, the player Streams are still suffering from lack of viewers. Last month I've asked for a few possible reasons for this, and here's what I've gathered so far:
  • WCS (1): At times it feels like there is a WCS stream on 24/7, and it is clear by now that most people prefer to watch WCS games (or any other big tournament) over a player stream. Player stream numbers always suffer once WCS is on, and subsequently, many streamers simply stopped streaming while WCS is on. And since WCS tends to stream at the most convenient times for those watching, this inevitably means worse numbers for player streams.
  • WCS (2): On top of that, countless streamers actually play in a WCS tournament themselves, and as such they actually have to prepare and train for their games. Practicing on stream is a very bad idea, as this gives away their builds for anyone to see, and so they practice without any audience. So WCS does not only cause less people to watch streams, it also causes less streams to be available in general.
  • Twitch sucks. Many of you have said that this is a big reason for not watching streams anymore. Lag even on lower quality streams, the lack of functioning chats and streams simply not working at all have all been factors to lessen the enjoyment of watching a player stream their favorite game.
  • School. Personally, I'm a bit ambivalent about this argument, but I'll include it here for completeness sake. School has started again for many of you, which of course means less lazy stream viewing and more learning of stuff you'll have forgotten by next year, anyhow. The reason I'm not quite convinced by this argument is that it can just as well be argued that the viewership ought to be lower during the school holidays instead, as that's the time where people go out and enjoy the real life out there, partying and dating and whatnot.

If there's any other arguments I've missed, do feel free to point them out.

WCS

The usual caveats applies:
  • The numbers are only from twitch.tv.
  • That means: No numbers from anyone watching on gomtv.net.
  • No numbers from Chinese streaming sites.
  • When there are multiple streams for one event, I will add them up only if they are different language streams. If they are the same language (OSL/GSL), I pick the stream with the higher average viewership.


[image loading]


Not a whole lot to say here. The numbers are down a bit, especially for WCS EU, but I'd say they're still pretty good. The really interesting numbers will come once the season finals and, of course, Blizzcon, have aired.

Go and check out these events at Fuzic for much more detailed numbers and prettier graphs!

GSTL vs. ATC vs. SC2L


There's was no Proleague last months, and god knows when the next one will be.

[image loading]


SC2L struggled during its first season, with vastly varying viewer numbers depending on the teams and casters (having TB cast sure never hurts the numbers), but it did pretty decently with its Final, thanks to being played live at Dreamhack. Let's hope they'll stabilize for season 2!

So that's all for this month.
Hope you guys enjoyed, as always. Any kind of feedback is always welcome!

Older entries
  • Top 50 streamers in August 2013 (plus WCS numbers)
  • Top 50 streamers in July 2013 (plus WCS numbers)
  • Top 50 streamers in June 2013 (plus WCS numbers)
  • Top 50 streamers in May 2013 (plus WCS numbers)
  • Top 50 streamers in April 2013 (+ WCS/GSTL/SPL!)
  • Top 50 streamers in March 2013 (HotS numbers!)
  • Top 50 streamers in February 2013 + Proleague/GSL
  • Top 50 streamers in Jan.2013+Proleague/GSL viewers
  • Top 50 streamers in Dec 2012 (plus Top 100 2012!*)
  • Top 50 streamers in November 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in October 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in September 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in August 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in July 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in June 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in May 2012
  • Who is the most popular streamer?(Numbers inside!) (March-April 2012)
Facebook Twitter Reddit
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 13:16:35
October 01 2013 13:13 GMT
#2
Holy crap I took a giant dive not streaming for a week to focus on WCG Canada and changing my streaming schedule to adapt to WCS Qualifier was deadly D: Thanks conti for doing these, alway super awesome !

You think you could add a "hour difference" to the 2nd graph. For example dragon got -27k viewerhour but streamed 175 hours. It would be interesting to know how many hours he streamed the previous month. Some of the streams going up in ranks or down could be easily explained by the -/+ hours streamed.

I think the personal stream stats not doing as well as it used to be is also because Grubby, Demuslim and IdrA haven't been as consistent as they used to and also WCS wrecking their potential/growth is not helping them wanting to stream more.

Just my 2 cents <3 !
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
GnoM
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway145 Posts
October 01 2013 13:14 GMT
#3
Great stuff!
Keep 'em comming!
KnowMe
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany228 Posts
October 01 2013 13:17 GMT
#4
# to everything desrow wrote TT
http://www.facebook.com/KnowMeSc2 https://twitter.com/YouBetterKnowMe
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 01 2013 13:18 GMT
#5
Only 330 hours by Painuser?! Weak!

+ Show Spoiler +
Kidding of course, he's an absolute beast.


Glad to see DRG up there, very good stream.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Uni1987
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands642 Posts
October 01 2013 13:21 GMT
#6
Less viewers in general every month ;(
.............
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
October 01 2013 13:29 GMT
#7
did you take idra only streaming sc2 or is him dota2 streaming with in there
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9222 Posts
October 01 2013 13:33 GMT
#8
Yey Avilo finally made it this list!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
October 01 2013 13:33 GMT
#9
On October 01 2013 22:29 teddyoojo wrote:
did you take idra only streaming sc2 or is him dota2 streaming with in there

SC2 only, just like everyone else.

His Dota2 avg. viewership was 1592 last month, with a peak of 3378.
Juicy Orange
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada133 Posts
October 01 2013 13:34 GMT
#10
I'm actually so happy to see Destiny playing SC2 again, even if it's only for like 8 days.
Daigoro
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany251 Posts
October 01 2013 13:36 GMT
#11
Thanks for doing this man!
Always really interesting, your reasoning behind the viewer changes seems very solid to me
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
October 01 2013 13:39 GMT
#12
On October 01 2013 22:21 Uni1987 wrote:
Less viewers in general every month ;(



WCS is like a vacuum. Very few time frame for players to have growth for their streams.
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 01 2013 13:41 GMT
#13
Wow, I realize only now how long painuser is streaming. What a beast!
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
October 01 2013 13:42 GMT
#14
Haha, I liked that TLO and Incontrol's team was listed as EG-TL.
GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
October 01 2013 13:42 GMT
#15
On October 01 2013 22:39 desRow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 22:21 Uni1987 wrote:
Less viewers in general every month ;(



WCS is like a vacuum. Very few time frame for players to have growth for their streams.


Sadly it would appear that WCS EU viewers have declined aswell.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12700 Posts
October 01 2013 13:43 GMT
#16
with dragon retiring, we won't have anyone big named and kinda high skilled to stream some high level games and occasional trolling games anymore.
Anyone knows anyone who is at high level and plays some troll games from time to time?
Watching dragon plays mass ghost only was probably one of my fav memory in SC2.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 01 2013 13:44 GMT
#17
On October 01 2013 22:43 ETisME wrote:
with dragon retiring, we won't have anyone big named and kinda high skilled to stream some high level games and occasional trolling games anymore.
Anyone knows anyone who is at high level and plays some troll games from time to time?
Watching dragon plays mass ghost only was probably one of my fav memory in SC2.

Bomber? He has another meaning for troll games though.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
October 01 2013 13:50 GMT
#18
Even though it's only 4 users this month, I think the minimum hrs should be a double-digit 10 hrs.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 01 2013 13:53 GMT
#19
On October 01 2013 22:43 ETisME wrote:
with dragon retiring, we won't have anyone big named and kinda high skilled to stream some high level games and occasional trolling games anymore.
Anyone knows anyone who is at high level and plays some troll games from time to time?
Watching dragon plays mass ghost only was probably one of my fav memory in SC2.

Fuzer
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
spena
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada116 Posts
October 01 2013 14:42 GMT
#20
can someone post imgur mirror link? some places has dropbox blocked
It's easier to be terrified by an enemy you admire.
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 57m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft314
elazer 159
CosmosSc2 23
Codebar 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 598
LancerX 25
Dota 2
monkeys_forever349
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe67
PPMD22
Liquid`Ken13
Other Games
summit1g8006
Grubby3476
shahzam595
C9.Mang0152
ToD142
ZombieGrub119
Maynarde64
Trikslyr50
UpATreeSC32
JuggernautJason10
deth7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick210
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream39
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 188
• davetesta21
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Eskiya23 24
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1175
• Scarra154
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10h 57m
Afreeca Starleague
10h 57m
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 10h
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
1d 11h
Replay Cast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Platinum Heroes Events
4 days
BSL
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-22
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Proleague 2026-03-23
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.