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World Record Worker Supply Max Competition 7:58

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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-11 13:29:04
September 11 2013 13:19 GMT
#1
Time= 7:58 Protoss max. 200/200 Probes only.
Map = Frost LE
Position = Bottom Right (5 O'clock) I noticed within some maps, minerals mine differently so it is noted
+ Show Spoiler +
I tried on bottom left (8:10), and top right (8:13) as well. Times were a bit slower but could also be due to mistakes etc.

I didn't use any cheats or slow game speed. I Allowed only Probe, Pylon, and Nexus. I used a Blizzard Ladder map. The Goal is to make 200/200 Probe ASAP.



I have also done videos of Terran and Zerg + Show Spoiler +
8:22 ZERG TR-NQ , 8:05 ZERG BR-Q, 8:30 terran TL-NOC, 8:58 terran TR-OC
. Which are slower by nature (I think), even if you allow the use of Orbital Command or Queens (doesn't seem to help). I would be interested to see if there was a specific build that would beat strictly; Worker, Supply, HQ alone.

Can anyone beat my records (I did make a few mistakes), try on a different map if you want (ladder only?)

I can upload reps if anyone wants.

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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
September 11 2013 13:31 GMT
#2
Why are you using real time? The game time is about 11 minutes which isn't any sort of record. IIRC there were some recent threads on Day9.tv where people were getting ~8 or 9 in game minutes doing something very similar.
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
September 11 2013 13:32 GMT
#3
On an unrelated note, has anyone ever deciphered mineral placements and worker timings like was done in bw? I remember some math dude made a bunch of graphs and maps and tested gas and minerals and then tested different starting positions on pro maps.

I definitely have noticed that Derelect Watcher has the slowest mining minerals of all the current ladder maps. And some maps have more closer minerals than further minerals at each node as well.
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
September 11 2013 13:34 GMT
#4
On September 11 2013 22:31 Yonnua wrote:
Why are you using real time? The game time is about 11 minutes which isn't any sort of record. IIRC there were some recent threads on Day9.tv where people were getting ~8 or 9 in game minutes doing something very similar.


Because real time. Where? Did they use workers only?
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-11 13:40:40
September 11 2013 13:40 GMT
#5
On September 11 2013 22:34 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2013 22:31 Yonnua wrote:
Why are you using real time? The game time is about 11 minutes which isn't any sort of record. IIRC there were some recent threads on Day9.tv where people were getting ~8 or 9 in game minutes doing something very similar.


Because real time. Where? Did they use workers only?


No, every unit was allowed and it was done on Neo Planet S (with 2 gold bases).
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-11 13:48:59
September 11 2013 13:47 GMT
#6
On September 11 2013 22:40 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2013 22:34 MarlieChurphy wrote:
On September 11 2013 22:31 Yonnua wrote:
Why are you using real time? The game time is about 11 minutes which isn't any sort of record. IIRC there were some recent threads on Day9.tv where people were getting ~8 or 9 in game minutes doing something very similar.


Because real time. Where? Did they use workers only?


No, every unit was allowed and it was done on Neo Planet S (with 2 gold bases).


Ah golds would do it. If you allow every unit you just end up doing the same thing but towards the end you just make like 10 gateways and spamming zealots right?
Where can I find those?
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
SiskosGoatee
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Albania1482 Posts
September 11 2013 14:24 GMT
#7
It's easier to max if you allow zealots because gateways spend minerals more quickly.
WCS Apartheid cometh, all hail the casual audience, death to merit and hard work.
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
September 11 2013 14:32 GMT
#8
hey
i actually like those kind of record.
I will try tonight and tell you :=)
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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-11 18:40:10
September 11 2013 17:56 GMT
#9
Heh, this sounds like fun.

I'll give it a try, but I'll be using game time, because.. game time.

11:50 on my first try, though I forgot I could make macro hatches for quite awhile.
11:42 second try.. need more income.
11:38 third try, but supply blocks everywhere at the end.
11:36 with a single enormous supply block
Cereal
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
September 11 2013 20:38 GMT
#10
On September 12 2013 02:56 InfCereal wrote:
I'll give it a try, but I'll be using game time, because.. game time.

Oh snap.
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SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
September 11 2013 21:04 GMT
#11
On September 11 2013 23:24 SiskosGoatee wrote:
It's easier to max if you allow zealots because gateways spend minerals more quickly.


It's stuff like this that makes me believe you never actually read posts and you just argue to argue. Not only does it say Worker Supply max in the title, but also he talks about it multiple times in the OP.
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-11 21:08:37
September 11 2013 21:07 GMT
#12
On September 12 2013 02:56 InfCereal wrote:
Heh, this sounds like fun.

I'll give it a try, but I'll be using game time, because.. game time.

11:50 on my first try, though I forgot I could make macro hatches for quite awhile.
11:42 second try.. need more income.
11:38 third try, but supply blocks everywhere at the end.
11:36 with a single enormous supply block


Got 11:20 with queen and 11:42 w/o

11:59 T no OC, 12:30 T with OC
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
September 11 2013 22:04 GMT
#13
I know Ohana isn't in the HotS map pool, but my builds were always faster on that map than on others.
jjakji fan
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
September 12 2013 00:21 GMT
#14
Neat!

Is the only probes/drones/SCVs thing a rule? Queens do use supply and them being allowed/disallowed would massively affect the way zerg would play this out I think. I might take a stab at this later, it'd be fun to micromanage overlord / hatchery / larva generation and try keep all your drones pathing to the nearest patches :D
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Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
September 12 2013 01:16 GMT
#15
I just tried how fast sc2planner could make 200 Probes. I got 10:32 Blizz time, so 7:31 real time. Excluding game speed variance due to lag.

Basically, great job! It doesn't get much better than this. :D
CrystalDrag
Profile Joined July 2010
173 Posts
September 12 2013 01:20 GMT
#16
On September 11 2013 22:32 MarlieChurphy wrote:
On an unrelated note, has anyone ever deciphered mineral placements and worker timings like was done in bw? I remember some math dude made a bunch of graphs and maps and tested gas and minerals and then tested different starting positions on pro maps.

I definitely have noticed that Derelect Watcher has the slowest mining minerals of all the current ladder maps. And some maps have more closer minerals than further minerals at each node as well.


In starcraft two, there is no problem with mineral mining as in broodwar. Problems involving mineral mining rates in starcraft two usually involve worker migration patches (where workers go behind the minerals to mine if transfering) and just plain old regular too-far away minerals.
SiskosGoatee
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Albania1482 Posts
September 12 2013 12:35 GMT
#17
On September 12 2013 06:04 SidianTheBard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2013 23:24 SiskosGoatee wrote:
It's easier to max if you allow zealots because gateways spend minerals more quickly.


It's stuff like this that makes me believe you never actually read posts and you just argue to argue. Not only does it say Worker Supply max in the title, but also he talks about it multiple times in the OP.
Ehh, yeh right, I'm actually partaking in the discussion in this thread where someone said someone else maxed in far less time using zealots but whatever.

If it's stuff like this that makes you believe that, well, that explains a lot.
WCS Apartheid cometh, all hail the casual audience, death to merit and hard work.
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
September 12 2013 17:09 GMT
#18
On September 12 2013 21:35 SiskosGoatee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 06:04 SidianTheBard wrote:
On September 11 2013 23:24 SiskosGoatee wrote:
It's easier to max if you allow zealots because gateways spend minerals more quickly.


It's stuff like this that makes me believe you never actually read posts and you just argue to argue. Not only does it say Worker Supply max in the title, but also he talks about it multiple times in the OP.
Ehh, yeh right, I'm actually partaking in the discussion in this thread where someone said someone else maxed in far less time using zealots but whatever.

If it's stuff like this that makes you believe that, well, that explains a lot.


Can understand what you're saying, but agree with the other gent. You saying you can max out zealots in a shorter time, is like someone saying I can do 20 pushups in 10s and you come in and saying you can do 10 pullups in 8s... Kinda irrelevant no?

But don't understand why the other guy is so hostile towards you too. Providing different points of view is the reason behind forums no?
Horn
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States72 Posts
September 12 2013 17:14 GMT
#19
ok stahp this argumentiting it is annoying
every time u build zealots is about the same cost and production time as 2 probes but they require less chronoboost and therefore can be chronoboosted more, and production facilities cost less so indeed u would think you can max out on zealots faster but probes provide more income so it is close ok, the better macro, the faster probes are significantly, but zealots are not too significant with better macro imo

tl;dr not building units requires more skill

@Antylamon
most excellent good sir, can u try the zealot way as well, and maybe even other races/
thanks
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SiskosGoatee
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Albania1482 Posts
September 12 2013 20:45 GMT
#20
On September 13 2013 02:09 openbox1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 21:35 SiskosGoatee wrote:
On September 12 2013 06:04 SidianTheBard wrote:
On September 11 2013 23:24 SiskosGoatee wrote:
It's easier to max if you allow zealots because gateways spend minerals more quickly.


It's stuff like this that makes me believe you never actually read posts and you just argue to argue. Not only does it say Worker Supply max in the title, but also he talks about it multiple times in the OP.
Ehh, yeh right, I'm actually partaking in the discussion in this thread where someone said someone else maxed in far less time using zealots but whatever.

If it's stuff like this that makes you believe that, well, that explains a lot.


Can understand what you're saying, but agree with the other gent. You saying you can max out zealots in a shorter time, is like someone saying I can do 20 pushups in 10s and you come in and saying you can do 10 pullups in 8s... Kinda irrelevant no?
Well, I'm just answering this question the OP asked in the post above me:

"If you allow every unit you just end up doing the same thing but towards the end you just make like 10 gateways and spamming zealots right?"

I'm basically saying "Yes, if you allow every unit you max more quickly because gateways spend supply faster while costing less.' A zealot has about the build time of two probes but a nexus costs considerably more than a gateway.
WCS Apartheid cometh, all hail the casual audience, death to merit and hard work.
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