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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
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July 21 2013 06:34 GMT
#6
/obs
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ShiaoPi
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July 22 2013 10:57 GMT
#14
O_o
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ShiaoPi
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July 22 2013 16:59 GMT
#17
/obs
/in
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
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July 23 2013 02:39 GMT
#28
I am fine with both deadlines
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ShiaoPi
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July 24 2013 04:33 GMT
#48
sup guys. I'm a vt
phoneposting btw
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
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July 24 2013 08:54 GMT
#79
sorry i disappeared. but got busy. i am on my way home now, will share my reasons once i get there. phoneposting is not the best way to elaborate
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
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July 24 2013 10:44 GMT
#88
So I am back home.
Reasons for claiming vt:
First off it's true lol, more importantly however I wanted to get some juicy reactions and I got some noteworthy already.
the thing is the claim itself is entirely not indicative of alignment and in my opinion town should just take a note on it and move on. Sure you can't prove anything at this stage, but does it matter? You should be scumhunting not harping around a non-alignment indicative behavior. So let me summarize some reactions to it.
Z-boson is doing the right thing, just noting it and moving on as seen here:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 24 2013 15:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 15:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:10 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, @rayne
You seem a little disgruntled that ShiaoPi claimed VT. Why the negative reaction?

Because the claim is either stupid or scum.


Its a pointless claim no matter what alignment he is.
However, I dislike the fact that he just waltzed into the thread with that pointless post and has not posted anything since...


FirmTofu and rayn however strike me as incredibly scummy right now. Lazer already pointed out the thing that stands out about FirmTofu's behavior, so no need for me to elaborate on him.

On Rayn however:
Do you see the blatant contradiction?
His first reaction is just a wtf, which is okayish to me, but a bit on the scummy side.
Then he says that it is "pointless" and either "stupid or scum". Saying that there is no reason for me to do it: + Show Spoiler +
On July 24 2013 15:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 15:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:10 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, @rayne
You seem a little disgruntled that ShiaoPi claimed VT. Why the negative reaction?

Because the claim is either stupid or scum.


Its a pointless claim no matter what alignment he is.
However, I dislike the fact that he just waltzed into the thread with that pointless post and has not posted anything since...

That's my point. There is no reason he should do that as town whether or not he actually is a vt.


As Z boson points out however that it is simply not alignment indicative rayn goes to this position:

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 24 2013 16:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 15:51 Z-BosoN wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:10 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, @rayne
You seem a little disgruntled that ShiaoPi claimed VT. Why the negative reaction?

Because the claim is either stupid or scum.


Its a pointless claim no matter what alignment he is.
However, I dislike the fact that he just waltzed into the thread with that pointless post and has not posted anything since...

That's my point. There is no reason he should do that as town whether or not he actually is a vt.


Theres no reason he should do that as scum either. I wouldnt care for that at all if he had contributed in some more useful manner later on. Is the claim solely the biggest issue you have with shiaopi?

That's the only thing ShiaoPi has posted, how could anything else be an issue with him?
I know the claim is not alignment indicative in itself, but ShiaoPi's reasons sure are. There is a reason he said what he did, and i want to know what his reasons were.

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 15:47 Z-BosoN wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What do you think of Sylencia?

Well, theres only like two pages of content, so theres not really much I can say. He's a little slow with the posts, but thats not alignment indicative. Anything caught your attention?


Sylencia asks people about if mason-partners should reveal their identity to each other. However he himself seems to have no stance on that. That's what caught my attention.

Sylencia: Do you think mason partners should reveal their identity to each other? Why/why not?


So let me summarize:
-WTF --> Stupid or Scum --> He has a plan!!!!
I don't apprehend how you can go through these stages based on logic. It is much more likely he tried to paint me in a bad manner, then saw that it did not quite work out and reverted course. I mean in the beginning he does not even entertain the notion of my claim being part of a plan, he just says stupid/scum.
Anyway since he apparently got killed already not much more to say about him.

##Vote: FirmTofu
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 24 2013 10:46 GMT
#89
EBWOP:
Reading through the posted log.
Seriously Malongo? Also wtf do you mean by Lazer's post is more of a "threat"?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 24 2013 10:50 GMT
#92
but not based on the claim itself. It was based on activity after the claim, a much more solid tell than the claim.
Your "stupid or scum" post is just terribly wishy washy. Why do you feel the need to comment on it anyway?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 24 2013 10:54 GMT
#94
Not only Z boson thinks that you think I am scum, I do too <3

I am more interested whether or not you are actually dead now.
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
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July 24 2013 10:57 GMT
#96
On July 24 2013 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit. You actually did say you really are a VT.

##Vote: ShiaoPi

lol

scum for not even reading properly?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 24 2013 11:01 GMT
#98
You should just fucking ignore it like most of the thread did, since it does not even matter....too hard of a matter for you to grasp?
Outlined my thoughts more than enough. and your subsequent vote is just terrible reasoning as well.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 24 2013 11:04 GMT
#100
to get the reactions I got
FirmTofu and yours are precisely what I was hoping to get
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 24 2013 11:09 GMT
#102
You do not even get the point do you?
There is no need to question me on the claim, just note it down like you would a miller claim or something. You cannot prove it you cannot make out whether I am lying or not until I flip. You could have easily just noted my lack of activity right after as Z boson did, as that is much more alignment indicative than the claim.
Do I have to repeat myself? Well whatever you are scum bro
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 24 2013 11:13 GMT
#104
hahahahaha, I am avoiding the question? Are you sure you are reading what I am posting? Even without my claim there was plenty of other possible discussion you could do in thread about usage of the QT for example. Scumhunting in there is something you have done, sure but your reaction to my claim and the subsequent vote now is just terrible beyond measure.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 24 2013 11:17 GMT
#106
Malongo, clarify please what you meant by "threat" regarding Lazer
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 24 2013 11:20 GMT
#108
I have no clue in what delusional space you live in rayn /shrug
Not saying that I am encouraging setup speculation, I am saying that the discussion about QTs had more worthwhile things going on than a claim, which is not alignment indicative at all. Seriously you even reading what I am writing without trying to twist the words?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 24 2013 11:30 GMT
#111
Look for example at FirmTofu's posts on QTs:
He first asks questions to the thread in regards to stances on QT (in this case whether or not to reveal you mason partner): but avoids posting this first:
On July 24 2013 15:20 FirmTofu wrote:
I agree with rayn. The claim rubs me the wrong way. I don't understand it.

Where I stand:
People should NOT be anonymous in their QTs. There is no reason to do that.
People should be trying to discern the alignment of their partner, but not to the point where they stifle discussion in the QT. Pressure him, but don't argue incessantly.
People should not tell the thread who their partners are. If the partners are both town, we end up denying scum a TON of useful information by not saying who your partner is. It will also be useful to find mini-mason circles to confuse scum.


Which would instantly clarify his stance in any case. Why test the waters first with questions, if you have already made up your mind? It is scummy to me, trying to blend in with threadflow after asking where it is.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 24 2013 11:35 GMT
#112
@Malongo: What is your opinion on FirmTofu?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 24 2013 11:47 GMT
#115
On July 24 2013 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 20:30 ShiaoPi wrote:
Look for example at FirmTofu's posts on QTs:
He first asks questions to the thread in regards to stances on QT (in this case whether or not to reveal you mason partner): but avoids posting this first:
On July 24 2013 15:20 FirmTofu wrote:
I agree with rayn. The claim rubs me the wrong way. I don't understand it.

Where I stand:
People should NOT be anonymous in their QTs. There is no reason to do that.
People should be trying to discern the alignment of their partner, but not to the point where they stifle discussion in the QT. Pressure him, but don't argue incessantly.
People should not tell the thread who their partners are. If the partners are both town, we end up denying scum a TON of useful information by not saying who your partner is. It will also be useful to find mini-mason circles to confuse scum.


Which would instantly clarify his stance in any case. Why test the waters first with questions, if you have already made up your mind? It is scummy to me, trying to blend in with threadflow after asking where it is.

I don't understand a single bit of this post. Are you accusing me of blending in by asking you questions, when i have clearly
stated what my thought process was?


You really aren't reading what I am posting....
You asked what I thought was important from the QT discussions. I provided an example from it, further enhancing why FirmTofu is securely in the scumcamp for me (besides the claim thingie).
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