EPTAlso you should change the op to say "a plurality launching system"
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Also you should change the op to say "a plurality launching system" | ||
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either way you will do it, but the question is how long it will take. | ||
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On July 07 2013 08:46 Ace wrote: I have never got lynched, vigged or any other town-killed as town, and i won't. I'm pretty sure that isn't true, i think I've actually been in a game where you got mislynchef. ##swag ##tybg | ||
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On July 07 2013 09:28 VayneAuthority wrote: this looks like a bus nuke so hard. xat gonna flip red ye If catalogs flips red va is scum. Who would actually think this as town. Much more likely scum trying to capitalize off of their teammate dying. If catalogs is town then forget this it's just va being stupid. | ||
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On July 07 2013 23:59 johnnywup wrote: Okay, caught up reading since last night and reread some filters. A couple things:  andel Ion said he's going to stop posting during dayphase which is pretty stupid. I mean, of course an excuse to not post is scummy as hell but I don't think he would be stupid enough to do that if he was scum >_> *I'd like him, Ghost_403, Oatsmaster, Stutters695, Z-Boson, Abenson, MajuGarzett, Strongandbig, gumshoe (he has posted a bit...but not about the game at hand...), CaucasianAsian, Nirvana.Gabo, FirmTofu all to start posting more. They haven't really given us any content to go off of. And that's like half the people in the game... *I'm not sure what to think about Chezinu's nuke and it makes no sense to me, so I'm not going to try to make sense of it for now. Oh crap, I just noticed Abenson voted me without saying in thread >_>. Would you like to give your reasons? You have given no indication of any opinion at all in this thread. I'd like you to tell me what you think about everyone. There's 5 people voting me right now. Since I'm town, there's probably 2-3 scum voting for me and 2-3 misguided townies. Among the people who voted for me, I think WoS, TanGeng are the most scummy. I've already said why I don't like WoS, and I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. I'm pretty sure xatalos is town. I'm unsure about vayne.. I don't like him by any stretch of the imagination but he seems too bold voting me first...I don't know, he may be scum still. Abenson hasn't posted much...like at all. I can't really read him based on his posts in thread but he certainly looks like scum to me for quietly hopping on the bandwagon to vote me without saying anything. So if I were to say whos townie and whos scum out of those 5 I'd say Xatalos and Vayne are town and the other 3 are scum, but I need more to go on from Abenson but he really hasn't given me a good first impression. I've felt pretty strongly about WoS being scum since last night so I'm going to go ahead and put my vote there ##vote WaveofShadow Idk this post seems pretty scummy to me | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:25 Z-BosoN wrote: Ace, how is "not calling you "probably town" taking things way too far? cause he town | ||
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and the worst roleclaim ever from engie (dont kill me im the doctor guise) so im pretty okay with where the nukes are heading, i guess | ||
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that's a lurker lynch right? or a policy lynch cause he is thread poison? or is there a case on him somewhere actually what cases are there on actual people? ##vote: dandeloin also did anyone say anything about the thing i posted before? On July 08 2013 02:47 strongandbig wrote: If catalogs flips red va is scum. Who would actually think this as town. Much more likely scum trying to capitalize off of their teammate dying. If catalogs is town then forget this it's just va being stupid. that really looks like a weird thing that va said. | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:33 WaveofShadow wrote: Can you respond to this please? yeah sure jonnywups post: On July 07 2013 23:59 johnnywup wrote: Okay, caught up reading since last night and reread some filters. A couple things: andel Ion said he's going to stop posting during dayphase which is pretty stupid. I mean, of course an excuse to not post is scummy as hell but I don't think he would be stupid enough to do that if he was scum >_> *I'd like him, Ghost_403, Oatsmaster, Stutters695, Z-Boson, Abenson, MajuGarzett, Strongandbig, gumshoe (he has posted a bit...but not about the game at hand...), CaucasianAsian, Nirvana.Gabo, FirmTofu all to start posting more. They haven't really given us any content to go off of. And that's like half the people in the game... *I'm not sure what to think about Chezinu's nuke and it makes no sense to me, so I'm not going to try to make sense of it for now. Oh crap, I just noticed Abenson voted me without saying in thread >_>. Would you like to give your reasons? You have given no indication of any opinion at all in this thread. I'd like you to tell me what you think about everyone. There's 5 people voting me right now. Since I'm town, there's probably 2-3 scum voting for me and 2-3 misguided townies. Among the people who voted for me, I think WoS, TanGeng are the most scummy. I've already said why I don't like WoS, and I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. I'm pretty sure xatalos is town. I'm unsure about vayne.. I don't like him by any stretch of the imagination but he seems too bold voting me first...I don't know, he may be scum still. Abenson hasn't posted much...like at all. I can't really read him based on his posts in thread but he certainly looks like scum to me for quietly hopping on the bandwagon to vote me without saying anything. So if I were to say whos townie and whos scum out of those 5 I'd say Xatalos and Vayne are town and the other 3 are scum, but I need more to go on from Abenson but he really hasn't given me a good first impression. I've felt pretty strongly about WoS being scum since last night so I'm going to go ahead and put my vote there ##vote WaveofShadow (1) lists every lurker in the game. no good reason to do that, its a waste of effort for town cause everyone can look for themselves whether a player has posted. literally no one will give a single shit about that list. however, its a convenient way for scum to pad out the post. (2) excessive focus only on people who voted him rather than looking for reads and pursuing them throughout the game. indicates a "get people off of me" mentality rather than a "find who's scum" mentality. (3) votes for wos, doesn't actually explain any reasons why he's scum except "look at before" despite talking about other players. (4) his reasons for omgussing people voting him are all pretty bad; there's nothing about tanggang or abenson explaining why they have a scum mentality or whatever. goes wiht the "get people to stop voting me" rather than "find who's scum" mentality thing. why did people say this was a townie looking post? | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:34 Nirvana.Gabo wrote: What am I supposed to do, show you the breadcrumbs from all the nights I've protected people and explain my pattern of protecting? It's D1. write it like you mean it or play so as not to get nuked, idk. there's no reason to believe you either, i'm much more okay with saving someone like mz who has been actively contributing in a townie way or with holding a save for later rather than saving you. | ||
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nah just busy and lazy | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:34 Xatalos wrote: Name your top scumreads and reasons for them now that you're finally here. umm, idk. lets look at the playerlist for a second and cross-reference with my emotional impressions... okay vayne authority cause of the thing with the xatalos nuke but more importantly cause hes got two pages of filter and none of it is really interesting or relevant except for attackign caucasianasian's drunk post, plus the old timey favorite scum line "Even if johnny does flip town, there's been a lot of decent discussion on it so it gives us a bit to work with as a day 1 lynch." apparently people think gumshoe is town, why is that? i still think he was nuke fishing and has a role that gains power when he gets nuked. who was the guy with a name that was kind of like geript who was just absolutely terrible? marv do you remember who i am talking about? he was in a couple games last year while i was in switzerland what about oatsmaster being scum? his antinuke target on xatalos is very poorly explained and he justifies it by saying that he thinks its more likely that chezinu is scum than jhonnywups rather than saying anything about the target. like, seriously? you nuke someone cause you think they're scum, you save someone cause you think theyre town, and maphack_z looked way more townie than xatalos | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:43 TanGeng wrote: My thought was that there is too much evidence. Even when it was pointed out, johnnywup didn't change. Scum should have a bit more self-consciousness. Then again while we are on the subject of bad play then johnnywup can be just showing bad scum play. A few slips would be more telling. A lot of slips doesn't give as much information. its just a bad post. when a post goes bad it can go bad in a bunch of ways at once but its still just a bad post, i don't agree that it can be too scummy for scum or whatever. | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:59 Stutters695 wrote: SnB nuke fishing doesn't mean he's not town though, could be something as simple as a vet to God knows how crazy. if he wanted to get nuked so he would gain power and he was town he would just tell town "hey i get this power by being nuked, who wants to nuke me" not try and draw nukes by trolling | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:57 Z-BosoN wrote: I'm still lagged behind, and I don't see the purpose of your conversation. You are hinting aggression towards ace with few hours left on the vote deadline, when he is clearly not getting lynched We should be focusing on whether or not we are going through a policy lynch or if we should try to find a better suspect. I don't like a policy lynch and I want to find a better suspect to suggest we lynch. Austin seems like a solid choice, and I am prompting for him to answer before I go balls out. Also, just stfu about chezinu. So much pointless discussion on someone who is so random and hard to read. If he were scum, why wouldn't he also explain his "bad nuke"? I can't make sense from his play and I feel it's just a wasted effort, and thus will not bother with it. I may be dead wrong here, but he is better suited for blue roles (checks and such). I feel austin is the better choice here. Veyne is also good, but I want to save him for later. what do you mean by the bolded | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:57 Alakaslam wrote: ... Wow this is true, that would be a great way for town cred and pushing agenda all in one post! Just one question........ .... What scum role has that power, and why save either townie? Is the cred really worth it? i have no clue what scum role has what power but in a game with (presumably) a bajillion town nukes, it makes a lot of sense for there to be a scum antinuke. as for the other part, why save as scum - first, i'm not sure that xatalos isn't scum as well, and second, getting a lot of town cred now (which lets you not get lynched or nuked) could have been something he thought was worth using up the antinuke (which would probably get him lynched if he used it later to save a teammate) for. Or he just yolo'd it, idk. point is, i can imagine reasons for that as scum, but the way he thought about it doesn't make sense to me if hes town. | ||
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On July 09 2013 03:28 Z-BosoN wrote: I mean that I don't want to lynch him today ^^ but you think hes scum? | ||
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On July 09 2013 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: This lynch looks so bad and we should be lynching Chezinu. why is chezinu more likely scum than dandyloin ps 'because chezinu did something stupid' is not a good reason until we know whether or not the stupid thing targeted townies or other scum. since chezinu is so willing to play badly as town, its impossible to tell his alignment until we have flips to analyze his actions in relationship to. or until someone vigs him. | ||
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On July 09 2013 22:11 Xatalos wrote: I agree with geript's reasoning that the DI wagon went too smoothly without disagreement (only geript opposed it until austinmcc finally made his case, and DI had like 10+ votes at that point?). That means DI is probably town. If that is true, then there's literally zero reason for scum rayn to change the lynch from town to town. Even if DI were scum, you have zero reason to pursue rayn until 1) DI has flipped red and 2) you explain why rayn is more scummy for that than me or austin who were more strongly pursuing ON. It's just senseless all around. 1) I do not believe rayn has the capacity to launch a nuke. In that case, he would have surely launched it at Chezinu regardless of his alignnment (even as scum it would be stupid to launch at someone else and then claim a bit later). 2) Scum do not act rashly or carelessly, they are careful and serious. This is everything but careful and very risky for little if any gain (as scum). See the point? 3) See above. "DI is town because no one opposed his lynch until people started opposing it" Durr no | ||
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