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[HOTS] Ladder Map Pool

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Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 18:07:07
March 11 2013 16:27 GMT
#1
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NewKirk District(Precinct?)
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Whirlwind
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Star Station
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Korhal City
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Neo Planet S
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Bel'Shir Vestige
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Daybreak LE
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Poll: Which map will you veto first?

Korhal City (159)
 
42%

Star Station (54)
 
14%

Newkirk Precint (44)
 
12%

Daybreak LE (37)
 
10%

Whirlwind LE (33)
 
9%

Neo Planet S LE (21)
 
6%

Bel'Shir Vestage LE (15)
 
4%

Akilon Wastes (13)
 
3%

376 total votes

Your vote: Which map will you veto first?

(Vote): Akilon Wastes
(Vote): Bel'Shir Vestage LE
(Vote): Daybreak LE
(Vote): Neo Planet S LE
(Vote): Newkirk Precint
(Vote): Korhal City
(Vote): Star Station
(Vote): Whirlwind LE

I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
phrenzy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom478 Posts
March 11 2013 16:32 GMT
#2
Good riddance antiga and ohana.

Though i have heard balance problems on the Neo and Whirlwind, but that could just affect those at the highest level. Who knows.

I feel with this expansion the things blizzard need to work on is the map pool dynamics/rotation. There are some awesome maps being made with only a few playing them... saying that the arcade is in desperate need of some attention (which i hear they are on the job) .
Alexj
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Ukraine440 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 16:33:41
March 11 2013 16:33 GMT
#3
This map pool is good, but WTF no Cloud Kingdom? Blizzard couldn't miss their chance to mess at least something up.

Notice how it has 4 Blizzard maps and 4 GSL/Kespa maps. Someone wants non-Korean comunity mapmaking to just die.

Again, this map pool is actually good, but there is something weird going on with removing CK
More GGs, more skill
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
March 11 2013 16:33 GMT
#4
I will miss Cloud Kingdom =(
Kaleidos
Profile Joined October 2010
Italy172 Posts
March 11 2013 16:34 GMT
#5
Would be cool to have pics of those maps, to check any blizzard change.
From Taeja stream i noticed that on Newkirk Precinct they actually removed the destructible rocks at the center map bases ramps.
Star Station gas geysers look very hot too.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
March 11 2013 16:34 GMT
#6
On March 12 2013 01:33 Alexj wrote:
This map pool is good, but WTF no Cloud Kingdom? Blizzard couldn't miss their chance to mess at least something up.

Notice how it has 4 Blizzard maps and 4 GSL/Kespa maps. Someone wants non-Korean comunity mapmaking to just die.

Again, this map pool is actually good, but there is something weird going on with removing CK


Cloud Kingdom is awfu these days and has been around foreverl, I hope they get rid of Daybreak next <3

Overall a nice solid map pool to start the game with <3
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moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
March 11 2013 16:35 GMT
#7
Korhal is one of the worst maps there are, PvP is simply bad there.
Alexj
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Ukraine440 Posts
March 11 2013 16:40 GMT
#8
How can you call CK awful? It's pretty much universally considered the best WoL map, and is a staple in all the tournaments.

It seems like their intention was to completely replace ALL the maps, but for some reason only Daybreak stayed
More GGs, more skill
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
March 11 2013 16:43 GMT
#9
thanks, i already thought about opening a thread myself, cause i was curious
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
VelRa_G
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada304 Posts
March 11 2013 16:45 GMT
#10
My Protoss vote downs: Star Station, Korhal City, Neo Planet S.
Nuda Veritas
xPabt
Profile Joined February 2012
226 Posts
March 11 2013 16:46 GMT
#11
Cloud definitely should have stayed over Daybreak.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16118 Posts
March 11 2013 16:46 GMT
#12
Why are they still going through with Korhal City? That map is absolute garbage.

Otherwise pretty solid map pool. I'll probably end up using only two of my vetoes on Korhal and Newkirk.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
March 11 2013 16:48 GMT
#13
Blizz should make a mixed map pool:

-Cloud Kingdom
-Metalopolis
-Whirlwind
-Scrap Station
-Belshir Beach
-Belshir Vestige
-Planet S
-Korhal City
-Scrap Station
-Desert Oasis

IMAGINE THE VARIETY!
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
March 11 2013 16:49 GMT
#14
On March 12 2013 01:40 Alexj wrote:
How can you call CK awful? It's pretty much universally considered the best WoL map, and is a staple in all the tournaments.

It seems like their intention was to completely replace ALL the maps, but for some reason only Daybreak stayed


I've never liked Cloud Kingdom, it's got pretty much everything I hate about WoL maps. I know it's considered one of the best maps, but I've never liked it and in HoTS it's actually really broken considering blink all ins are better and drops are faster.
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CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
March 11 2013 16:53 GMT
#15
On March 12 2013 01:49 Qikz wrote:
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On March 12 2013 01:40 Alexj wrote:
How can you call CK awful? It's pretty much universally considered the best WoL map, and is a staple in all the tournaments.

It seems like their intention was to completely replace ALL the maps, but for some reason only Daybreak stayed


I've never liked Cloud Kingdom, it's got pretty much everything I hate about WoL maps. I know it's considered one of the best maps, but I've never liked it and in HoTS it's actually really broken considering blink all ins are better and drops are faster.

How are blink allins better? They increased research time by 30 seconds.
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
March 11 2013 16:55 GMT
#16
I'm really glad that Antiga is out. I hated that map. Cloud Kingdom I have mixed feelings about. I really enjoyed TvT and TvZ on it, but hated TvP. I felt like it was really hard to drop on Cloud since the 3rd did a pretty good job of defending the main from drops.

Either way, this new map pool looks exciting!
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 16:56:45
March 11 2013 16:56 GMT
#17
WHIRLWIND!? TEH SWOON! Neo Planet S could be cool to play as well.

Surprised Daybreak is in but Cloud is out though. Honestly, they were great maps, they've had their time, but enough. It's time to move on, burn both of them. I do not want either in tournaments nor my ladder anymore. They're just too damn old.

Metropolis deserves to come back. I want my full season with it D:
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VelRa_G
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada304 Posts
March 11 2013 16:56 GMT
#18
On March 12 2013 01:53 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
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On March 12 2013 01:49 Qikz wrote:
On March 12 2013 01:40 Alexj wrote:
How can you call CK awful? It's pretty much universally considered the best WoL map, and is a staple in all the tournaments.

It seems like their intention was to completely replace ALL the maps, but for some reason only Daybreak stayed


I've never liked Cloud Kingdom, it's got pretty much everything I hate about WoL maps. I know it's considered one of the best maps, but I've never liked it and in HoTS it's actually really broken considering blink all ins are better and drops are faster.

How are blink allins better? They increased research time by 30 seconds.


The MSC gives vision of high ground.
Nuda Veritas
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7159 Posts
March 11 2013 16:59 GMT
#19
Cloud kingdom out and Daybreak still in... WHY BLIZZARD WHY???
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ForumErik
Profile Joined June 2012
Netherlands52 Posts
March 11 2013 17:01 GMT
#20
Am I the only one who doesn't like Whirlwind?
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