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Newbie Mini Mafia XXXVIII
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I played a handful of mafia years ago, IRL, but I barely remember it and this forum settings looks awesome. /in | ||
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random lynching you will be even tastier. | ||
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On March 07 2013 12:55 MLuneth wrote: Last post was a joke, if that wasn't clear What're you afraid of? | ||
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On March 07 2013 17:31 nobodywonder wrote: nope. we need to create an atmosphere of clarity, and transparency and one main thing is no lurkers. thats why i voted bduddy, just want him to respond. we need a fundamental level of contribution. we cant have an afk town and win. we cant let lurkers lurk. thats a very dangerous situation - can lead to mislynchs and town HAS to pressure to contributing. On March 07 2013 17:56 nobodywonder wrote: I'd rather like to avoid lynching on Day 1 if theyre unjustified. I want the threat to pressure lurkers to contribute and this would lead to the best case scenario. But if lurkers dont contribute, I have no issues with lynching, SO Pressuring lurkers to contribute => they contribute. the goal is get contribution (not to lynch, unless necessarily) Wtf? So your vote is pressuring a lurker to do things... but you don't want to lynch them? Why would you openly say this??? That defeats the entire purpose of the PRESSURE move. Scum want no-lynches btw. You also seem very unwilling to take a stance. "I don't want to lynch anyone without justification" "I want to no lynch" "I'll be content with lurker lynching" WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT! You are stupidly wish-washy right now. | ||
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Can we stop talking about lurker lynching and policy? It's horrendously cyclical and produces nothing but obvious answers. | ||
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Discuss. | ||
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On March 08 2013 02:01 TheRavensName wrote: How exactly does that make him scummier then NW? I think you just want to get your random lynch right. > My random vote has nothing to do with this. > Never said he was scummier than NW. | ||
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On March 08 2013 02:06 OmniEulogy wrote: Alright.. not much to work with and if anybody has any counter-questions for me please ask. Even if you think it's a dumb question, it's best to get them out of the way. I'd like to try and get some discussion going so.. @MLuneth Could you expand on why you chose Arctic to vote on when there were others (bduddy, ChewOnStu) without any content as well. Other than it just being a coin flip. @Krafla[spoiler]karla[/spoiler] Although you believe we may be giving some lurkers too easy of a time how do you feel about Luneth's vote on Arctic vs the other lurkers? Do you think it was too early to cast a serious vote on someone who has not been present or was it a justified action in your eyes? @ChewOnStu Welcome to the game  On the subject of lurkers, how do you feel we should deal with them if not for voting on them/lynching them when they become a problem? Every vote is meant to lynch so without that pressure how do we force bad town/scum to participate? I do agree that it is too early to assume anybody is lurking and not just busy but it is important to be able to react quickly, especially on D1.@WoS you mentioned strategies town should implement, or rather asked about them. I was hoping you could expand on your own thoughts on the matter. Do you have anything to say about my opening post or anything to add to it? @Matriarch How do you feel about the Lynch All Liars policy. Should town attempt to coax out scum by lying and possibly confusing the rest of us / hurting town in the process? @Raven same question as above, how do you feel about Lynching all Liars. As Scum has to lie to survive do you think this would add pressure and eventually lead to a correct lynch if we caught somebody? @Rainbows You mention Luneth being scummy, what do you think about his vote on Arctic? As Arctic has yet to show up, do you think it is more town oriented (trying to get a lurker to post) or scummy (attacking the easiest player early on in hopes that Arctic doesn't defend himself). @Frorgon You mention suspicious behavior being one of the key things you will be looking for, is there anything you could note so far that you would consider suspicious? @NobodyWonder You say you don't want to lynch anybody D1 if it is unjustified, could you expand and does that mean if we have no concrete proof of scum you will vote to no-lynch or would you get rid of the scummiest lurker? @Arctic Can give us your thoughts on what has happened so far and answer most of the questions I have asked to the others. @Taco Could you give your thoughts on Luneth voting for Arctic, which alignment do you believe it favors? If I missed anybody sorry =/ Oh my God this post is scummy. Half the people aren't going to respond to the questions, and, more likely, you won't get a read on them from their answer. These questions will acheive nothing. Pressuring the entire thread to talk is pointless. | ||
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On March 08 2013 02:13 OmniEulogy wrote: - Claims scummy - Doesn't answer question - Also I'm not pressuring at least 8-9 people with those questions - Means he didn't read the questions. Good to you know you have so little to say about so much Rainbows If you're not pressuring people, then what is the purpose of asking questions? To fling shit around? Get a clusterfuck of posts going up in here? Most of your questions will produce non-alignment indicative answers, and more likely nobody will expand on them at all. If you're town seriously focus on one subject at a time, other than taking everything that's been said, and asking people to "expand" on it. | ||
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On March 08 2013 02:34 OmniEulogy wrote: If you can't figure it out OR read it's not my problem. Your soft town claim, and the fact that you can't realize that the majority of the questions focus on Luneth is amazing. Also your ability to only focus on one thing at a time only is interesting, I assume you tunnel people blindly with that state of mind as well. So you think Luneth is scummy for no reason? ok. "While I believe that nobodywonder's actions have been suspicious and that his case is less than stellar, I feel that it is foolish to lynch someone who has made an addition to the game (albeit at this point small) should not be lynched over a person that has simply lurked for 2 days straight. I feel I need to point out that Frogon, as well as Krafla and Matriarch (to a lesser extent) have all input a similar amount of information as nobodywonder." He compares NW to four other players (raven in his next post) and states that he's done more than two(at that point) others and you wonder why he didn't vote for him, and THAT is what strikes you as making him scum? Practice what you preach and contribute something useful for town instead of blindly being arrogant. The fact that you can't see this is a mentality arguement is hilarious. But still, you're cute and I like you. So much vigor, even if it's madness! Also, it's super early game calm yourself | ||
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Are you down with a NW lynch? | ||
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Voting a lurker does nothing really. Voting someone suspect makes them talk. | ||
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NW's entire gameplan has revolved around trying to get Dbuddy to post. Town would actually try to address the situations at hand rather than go "Hey, you, over there, post something! But I'll switch my vote once you do!" Seriously. You Mafia. ##Unvote ##Vote: nobodywonder Now onto other business. Wave, don't try to buddy me. I'll hunt scum, but not holding your hand or anything. I like you so far, but a voice of reason tells me not to trust anyone. At all. Raven. On March 08 2013 03:14 TheRavensName wrote: Guess its time for the joke vote to go. ##unvote Now I guess its just a decision between M or NW at the moment... I find myself leaning a little towards NW given that hes actually posted suspicious stuff, where as our lurking friend still needs to give some stuff... Outside of those two, I dunno, Rainbow makes me uncomfortable even if he might be townie, I could actually see bussing mafia or SK also. OE seems pretty tow to me, and the rest need to contribute more before I can feel comfortable making a prediction. That read is PAINFULLY waffly. Like butter and syrup all over that shit. Especially the SK thing. Your mentioning of an SK makes me think you're the SK. ooooooooooooooooooo | ||
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On March 08 2013 09:28 nobodywonder wrote: @WoS. you're fine. although I want Krafla to explain himself still @OE.. hmmmm his posts are really long and windy, just check his filter. just like krafla, his posts are either useless or just too long, may indicate somewhat scummy + Show Spoiler + Alright.. not much to work with and if anybody has any counter-questions for me please ask. Even if you think it's a dumb question, it's best to get them out of the way. I'd like to try and get some discussion going so.. @MLuneth Could you expand on why you chose Arctic to vote on when there were others (bduddy, ChewOnStu) without any content as well. Other than it just being a coin flip. @Krafla+ Show Spoiler + karla @ChewOnStu Welcome to the game On the subject of lurkers, how do you feel we should deal with them if not for voting on them/lynching them when they become a problem? Every vote is meant to lynch so without that pressure how do we force bad town/scum to participate? I do agree that it is too early to assume anybody is lurking and not just busy but it is important to be able to react quickly, especially on D1. @WoS you mentioned strategies town should implement, or rather asked about them. I was hoping you could expand on your own thoughts on the matter. Do you have anything to say about my opening post or anything to add to it? @Matriarch How do you feel about the Lynch All Liars policy. Should town attempt to coax out scum by lying and possibly confusing the rest of us / hurting town in the process? @Raven same question as above, how do you feel about Lynching all Liars. As Scum has to lie to survive do you think this would add pressure and eventually lead to a correct lynch if we caught somebody? @Rainbows You mention Luneth being scummy, what do you think about his vote on Arctic? As Arctic has yet to show up, do you think it is more town oriented (trying to get a lurker to post) or scummy (attacking the easiest player early on in hopes that Arctic doesn't defend himself). @Frorgon You mention suspicious behavior being one of the key things you will be looking for, is there anything you could note so far that you would consider suspicious? @NobodyWonder You say you don't want to lynch anybody D1 if it is unjustified, could you expand and does that mean if we have no concrete proof of scum you will vote to no-lynch or would you get rid of the scummiest lurker? @Arctic Can give us your thoughts on what has happened so far and answer most of the questions I have asked to the others. @Taco Could you give your thoughts on Luneth voting for Arctic, which alignment do you believe it favors? If I missed anybody sorry =/ however one of the most interesting thing is where he chastises Raven + Show Spoiler + On March 08 2013 04:14 TheRavensName wrote: Show nested quote + Cause I dunno what I am doing and its what all the cool kids are doing? And I talk about bussing cause I mea the only mafia I've really played is the SC2 one, its realy really common to bus on it. So I just kinda assumed its the same way here. I'm just dumb I guess? As there has been no case against you and I see no reason to suspect you of being scummy at this point in time I'm going to step in and defend you / chastise you a little bit. First thing On March 08 2013 03:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + Why do you have to make a decision now? Why are you talking about bussing? Why are you making a useless list post? To be fair Raven didn't say we had to make a decision now, he said the decision at the moment is between Luneth and NW which was correct. WoS if you truely like what Rainbow has been saying without giving any specifics I assume you also meant you wanted to focus on one thing at a time. However Raven there are a few things I have a problem with in this post. One is the mention of an SK, keep that thought out of mind until the end of N1, it is not a certain thing that there is an SK, in all 3 of my previous newbie games there hasn't been one so it's best to leave that alone until there is proof of a 3rd party. The second thing is the mention of bussing so early into D1 while some people have still barely said anything. I don't believe it makes sense for mafia to try and bus each other this early. We can start to look at it closer to the deadline / after the flip and try to come to any conclusions then. I also personally just dislike it when people try to play the victim card. You have voiced some decent opinions about how we should go about the game and if you follow it up with some good scum hunting and cases it'll ease my suspicion of you greatly. This is more like some friendly advice to you if you are town to help prove it and keep yourself away from the lynch mob. And just be aware that when people pressure you, you should think about a better defense than "I guess I'm just dumb" If it keeps up, it'll look pretty scummy without any real explanations. why would he even defend Raven? Raven has played like a noob or somewhat scummy (see: "I guess I'm just dumb"), why wouldn't OE try to pressure Raven. As I see it, OE and Raven have the same allegiance and confirm each other's role. therefore possibly both mafia or chobolings. Yeah let's give mafia an idea to hit possible masons. | ||
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Might be a far cry but I'm forever paranoid (and alone) atm. | ||
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Anywho, I want ML in here. Talk to me, my child. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: ChewOnStu Only answered a question once directed at him, sheeped hardcore onto NW vote. Things need doing, and unfortunately he is not doing the doing. So Chew... Watcha gonna do? | ||
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On March 08 2013 11:38 MLuneth wrote: Good morning all (well morning for me) I will be able to answer questions in 2-3 hours. I will also explain my stance on NW/Daishi when I get back. ty for your patience + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On March 08 2013 16:29 MLuneth wrote: ##Vote: nobodywonder This vote is basically the result suspiciously targeting lurkers but more importantly the lack of an acceptable coherent defence. Rainbow, it strikes me as odd that while you have accused/pressured people to find out their position on certain matters but your position is not clear. In what circumstances would you lynch a lurker? A useless question. Policy is pointless, and the fact that we (you) are still talking about it is also pointless. | ||
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