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On January 22 2013 09:56 DearestSnot wrote: fuck you too and all the lurkers as well jesus why do you guys sign up for these games? EVERY GAME I see you, you do this. I'm doing you guys a favour, Modkills are way worse. | ||
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Vivax: I see mayor post as null in itself, but his follow up was quite strange. It never seemed as if he wanted to take the position, and his scumhunting (possibly to give him credibility in the election) was very forced. If you read the questions that he asked they are basically the same questions that he asks to each person. On January 20 2013 20:26 Vivax wrote: Allow me to correct: Toad should consolidate, Axle should just learn to format his posts properly. Gonzaw is also one of those able to produce hurricanes of text. mkfuba07 /confirm'd but didn't post anything since Daypost. Other "lurkers" didn't /confirm at all. @ mkfuba07 Why so silent?Who do you think is scum?Who would you elect? @ Djodref Hello Djodref. You have been asking a lot of questions lately. May I beg for you to answer mine first? What do you think of JieXian? Who would you vote for Mayor right now? Any tentative scumreads? This means that he wasn't looking for scum though their filters, but rather was trying to look like he was scumhunting by asking questions. The fact that he doesn't follow up on any of the questions is even more concerting, wouldn't a townie much less a mayoral candidate be more meticulous about his scumhunting? Letting questions drift into the abyss is something scum would do. Annul is more of a gut read for me. He is tunneling and acting pretty oblivious to things, which strikes me as scummy since he is a more experienced player. | ||
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##Vote: Annul | ||
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On January 24 2013 13:41 Mocsta wrote: So because thread died, I decided to have a looksee @ Gonzaw. - Please share your thoughts. TL;DR I am confused. When he writes, I like what I read. It feels fluent and natural; I almost feel like its written in my style, so I can associate to that and hence, want to like him. The problem is.. his actions aren’t matching to the words. After reading his 6 pages of filter, I have noticed a distinct drop in scum hunting since FiveTouch came into the scene. Most of his ramblings are thread status quo related, and his case on continuous read Oats originates after Oats pressures him. There is also the major problem of “kind of saw this coming to be honest” in regards to the NKs. This is just plain odd and has not been addressed satisfactorily (see spoiler for more) So in short, He left a great first impression with me, but is now not living up to the promises he made. I have stronger reads in BKE/Oats though, so I will pen Gonzaw in as: I think he is leaning towards scum.
Analysis + Show Spoiler + This is my general thoughts as I went through the 6 pages of filter. Its barely edited (sorry  )(1) I like his mayor campaign. Points I agree with. I dont think its straight forward to input this, otherwise, all the other candidates would have as well! (2) I like his Day1 questions. They are prods and I think are written to promote discussion. I am taking this as effective scum hunting due to nature of early Day1. (3) Interestingly enough.. gonzaw says he can understand Chez http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344¤tpage=15#297 I would very keen to hear Gonzaw insight on Chezinu currently! (4) Once FT comes into the thread, Gonzaw starts to spam his random thoughts. This is weird, especially because prplhz was around; and there were also others around (e.g. Toad etc) (5) He disagrees with the prplhz lynch, but its more just hey im not convinced. its not a hard defense This is reenforced when to me he says On January 21 2013 13:51 gonzaw wrote: Don't really know what to think of debears/grush; they are not making much sense and are kind of "trolling" with their votes and some of their reads, but that's too null to blindly lynch on D1. (6) Asks FT to choose Oats > prplhz I think this is sound.. earlier gonzaw said he agreed with aspects of the oatmaster points Fivetouch raised (7) When he concedes FT as mayor I like the post. Again feels like natural thoughts. I agree that prplhz felt like taking a stab in the dark. but really any day1 lynch is going to be like that. you have to go off a hunch with the limited time to get information. Again pushes for oats by suggestion. hmmm. Also calls out chez for swapping votes ?three? times... i want to know thoughts on this. Austin -> BKE -> Gonzaw) Night 1 Still supports Oats hmmm has blended in.. asks status quo questions.. doesnt seem to be scum hunting (p4) Then says if i die.. take out Oats/Annul.. but hasnt added anything further to them. On January 23 2013 10:36 gonzaw wrote: Kind of saw this coming to be honest (except the sandro kill). Unless some of them were a vig shot. Oats, you seem to be active, why haven't you addressed my response to your "case"? Five, could have scum killed you+Toad last night if both debears+Oats were scum and "subbed in"? This is a really weird post, and I cant wrap my finger around it. im not satisfied with response.. its token. On January 23 2013 10:41 gonzaw wrote: I always see scum doing weird shit with night kills. Every time you expect some guys to be killed they killed others, etc. I didn't really think Jiexian or Djoref were scum, so I'm not surprised they were offed. The problem wasnt that they werent scum.. the problem was that no1 was a vet.. and JX had no impact on the game, and rather was under suspicion.. its fucked up.. why he saw it coming just isn’t satisfactorily answered. He also keeps saying haven’t read for a while all the time.. Also Doesn’t build case on oats until oats pressures him.. really odd, but has kept suggesting his lynch Overall, no major attempts to contribute with scum hunting, even though it was a campaign goal. So in summary he left a great first impression on me.. but as the game has gone, he as kept saying he needs to catch up and is starting to express disinterest in the game. He has contributed minimally to scum hunting, and whilst having 6 pages, most is based about current thread discussions instead of scum hunting. Considering he didnt seriously push hard for the mayor position, I dont think its a case of butthurt causing the decline in interest. I can definitely attribute this behaviour to scum play. But, before outright declaring him scum, I would like his take of what I noticed. Quite honestly I can understand why you think I am scum. The problem I am finding, in my readthrough of filters, I am feeling really disconnected with the thread, due to initial missing the onset of the game. If you have anything you want my opinion or read on you can ask me. I just aren't finding relevant topics for me to post on. Please ask away. | ||
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On January 24 2013 14:54 Mocsta wrote: OK. Vivax filter. His last 2 to 3 pages, he created a shit-storm of accusations. (i.e. last 12 to 16 hrs of play) Do you think he is disrupting the play intentionally? If so, is it scum motivated? I'd say scum motivated disruption. The anger is the first thing I notice about his play over the last few hours, there was an unexpected jump in between these two posts+ Show Spoiler + On January 24 2013 04:10 Vivax wrote: Scum Yamato, british empire mm + Show Spoiler + On January 08 2013 11:41 yamato77 wrote: Excuse me for having other things to do in my life besides prove to town that you are scum. Are you going to do anything today besides defend yourself? Poorly,I might add. I bring up plenty of points besides just the useful discussion point. You cannot deny it looks like straight up post-hoc rationale. You didn't intend to look scummy with your shit but now that you do and you realize people see it that way you're making up bullshit excuses for your shit play. I'm dine with reading your useless posts. It is in town's best interest to see you hang. ##Vote: Mr Cheesecake On January 08 2013 07:48 yamato77 wrote: Is your only response to my suspicion of you "lol"? Let's say I vote you tomorrow with case attached, are you going to just lol that too? Fucking useless. On January 06 2013 19:02 yamato77 wrote: Xatalos what the fuck is that post? How is Shiao voting for a lurker who eventually got replaced scummy? He wants him to be more active, and somehow that's scum motivated? His stances are not weak. He's been putting pressure on me since he made the post, and he wants to do so to you. It's not like he's just saying shit to say it. And then this gem "I guess it's about time to finally cast a vote" Or in other words: "I'm going to put this riiiiight here. Hopefully town doesn't think I'm scummy for this!" That shit is weak, bro. Town Yamato + Show Spoiler + On December 21 2012 06:07 yamato77 wrote: I told you why I'm voting for you and your responses didn't help anything. I have plenty of reason. Other people may have read this and thought the same things. Why is sheeping people with good reads a bad thing anyway? On December 21 2012 06:11 yamato77 wrote: Convince me on Vivax then. If he's so scummy make an updated case with more content. All you've done is post your read and then ask everyone else what they thought of your read. That doesn't feel like scum hunting to me. On December 21 2012 06:19 yamato77 wrote: The differ pence is focus. You keep saying Vivax is scum but you've spent a lot more time discrediting Palmer than pushing your read on Vivax. You are not scum hunting. You are throwing shit at a town player. This is my point. I'm not being hypocritical because my focus is squarely set on you. You're scum, I'm voting for you, and I'm pushing my read and defending the case. You are doing none of these things. Wiggles was really mafia in this game when yamato was talking to him. As you see, two different styles of talking to his scumreads. But check his meta for yourself guys. On January 24 2013 04:11 Vivax wrote: Sorry yamato, you still have to improve as scum lol. But I see you're putting a lot of effort into this game, so I feel a bit bad for you. Personal Attacks: On January 24 2013 06:38 Vivax wrote: Oats is a mislynch, don't do it. You're so easily to influence Bugs, scum just plays their games with you. Insinuating he is hiding something: On January 24 2013 07:53 Vivax wrote: Hey FT, who is masoning you? Is there a reason you aren't outing it? | ||
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On January 24 2013 15:13 Toadesstern wrote: btw my take on oats right now: So I really don't see a reason to risk lynching oats today. Yes he's really scummy but more importantly he's a problem that will solve itself sooner or later. Either mafia shoots him because they want to get Palmar / me OR they shoot Palmar / me in which case oats isn't "probably mafia" but confirmed mafia OR they don't shoot Palmar / me which is perfectly fine with me to be honest. So I'd say we lynch someone else. For me that either means lynching into one of Annul / Gonzaw / Chez or lynching BKE. I myself would like BKE the most right now but I'm not done catching up. Mostly because I haven't figured out the Annul / Gonzaw / Chez triangle and while a 1/3 chance to hit mafia is still decent I think we'll get a better read on that one soon enough as well. What is the Annul/Gonzaw/Chez triangle? Is it based on setup speculation, or the general likelihood that one vet is scum? | ||
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On January 23 2013 10:36 gonzaw wrote: Kind of saw this coming to be honest (except the sandro kill). Unless some of them were a vig shot. Oats, you seem to be active, why haven't you addressed my response to your "case"? Five, could have scum killed you+Toad last night if both debears+Oats were scum and "subbed in"? On January 23 2013 10:39 gonzaw wrote: EBWOP: Derp debears already asked that question. Dunno what to think about the BGs. I'd take a guess and say that at least one of those is town, since I doubt scum would have the balls to make 2 scum BGs. I'd say debears is the townie and Oats is the scum. Although meh this works anyway. If Oats/debears is town, then scum have to kill them/him to kill Five/Toad, so maybe they'd even do us a favor killing the townie out of them. | ||
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On January 23 2013 10:36 gonzaw wrote: Kind of saw this coming to be honest (except the sandro kill). Unless some of them were a vig shot. Oats, you seem to be active, why haven't you addressed my response to your "case"? Five, could have scum killed you+Toad last night if both debears+Oats were scum and "subbed in"? On January 23 2013 10:39 gonzaw wrote: EBWOP: Derp debears already asked that question. Dunno what to think about the BGs. I'd take a guess and say that at least one of those is town, since I doubt scum would have the balls to make 2 scum BGs. I'd say debears is the townie and Oats is the scum. Although meh this works anyway. If Oats/debears is town, then scum have to kill them/him to kill Five/Toad, so maybe they'd even do us a favor killing the townie out of them. The speculation was bad, but it seems genuine. Just cause he continues the speculation, after making the mistake. WBG pointed out, but assuming that scum chose to risk a BG position is fool proof. My take on it is its not worth it at all. At the end of the night an elected will be able to out the remaining BG leading to an instalynch. | ||
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On January 24 2013 16:02 Mocsta wrote: Toad, if you are there. (Or anyone else) Is there any discussions that can be had over Chezinu random vote swapping towards the end? (Chez -> Austin -> BKE -> Gonzaw) Fits with the trolly style of Chezinu, as it had no effect on the actual election I dont suspect treachery. | ||
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On January 24 2013 22:52 FiveTouch wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 24 2013 22:48 FiveTouch wrote: To Vivax: Firstly, I seem to recall you berating bugs with some awesome mafia-read you had in an obsQT. I presume from your attitude here that you believe this read to not be legitimate, as you weren't able to question the mafia? Secondly: I did indeed ask him a question, and he never answered it. This proves that Broodking isn't reading the thread at all. He says this: Which may excuse him (it doesn't) from his non-play on Day 1, but it doesn't excuse him missing a question I asked him only 3 hours prior to him posting. By way of edit, I should add that Broodking's last post there was aimed at another player, he never answered me (although it looks like that was an answer to me) The answer was more of a response to everybody. If you look at the majority of suspicion around me, it revolves around my inactivity. I merely chose the most recent post containing suspicion against me to respond to. I'm up for answering questions from you as well. | ||
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On January 25 2013 01:31 Vivax wrote: FT was totally disinterested in lynching gonzaw despite being shoveling shit at him so often. The reason is simple: Oats, BKE, Chezinu are easier to lynch and most likely aren't on his team. His last question he wants answered is pointless anyway, it doesn't change anything. I'll give that to you postgame. Just do me a fucking favour and get rid of FT, that guy is dangerous like 1000 snakes for this town. Given his experience and skill as scum he probably has a powerful role too. On January 25 2013 01:36 Vivax wrote: Toad, I was testing reactions with my extended knowledge about gonzaws alignment, the serious trouble you have is only dealing with the way I play, not with what I did. I don't give a fuck if you lynch me to confirm I'm DT. I wouldn't actually mind that cause then you can proceed to lynch the right ones and I'm out of this derp town. Obviously I would prefer if you lynched FT, yamato, Toad and probably Mocsta/Toad > austin/Chez/Bke etc. Gonzaw can stay where he is for now, he's not going anywhere, posting anything, probably tried to manipulate the mason circles and can be lynched later. Now we need to lynch the dangerous guys, namely FT. You are literally throwing scum teams out of your ass. | ||
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On January 25 2013 05:09 yamato77 wrote: BKE it's best to just ignore what Vivax is saying, because despite the fact that he's obviously wrong and full of shit, he's still most likely town. Derp, of course scum fake claim = instalynch. ##Vote: Gonzaw | ||
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On January 25 2013 05:28 grush57 wrote: BKE why do you have to post at the same time I do :'( We think on the same wavelength  | ||
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On January 25 2013 10:43 FiveTouch wrote: So, if Broodking and Chezinu are both mafia, they could have got gonzaw into the Sheriff position Day 1. Broodking voted for himself 3 minutes from deadline, and then Chezinu voted for gonzaw. It could be, though, that BKE is just useless and came back to avoid the modkill and vote for himself, and is mafia. Anyone could have got gonzaw into sheriff position, but no one did. Pretty moot speculation. | ||
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On January 25 2013 11:43 DearestSnot wrote: that's not true, Chezinu himself admitted he wanted to get gonzaw elected over Toad. Also he simply needed 1 vote. If there was some kind of communication problem (not that unlikely) then there might have been a second scum (maybe even BKE) who was supposed to vote gonzaw but didn't. No one would really even know. Im 100% sure this indicates a troll up to the lynch: On January 22 2013 09:55 Chezinu wrote: you need to vote in voting thread. So last minute voting.. who to vote for... But even so the fact that gonzaw never got the slot makes it a moot point. | ||
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