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Sorry the prp played badly but give me a chance to play for myself. I am town. I am wary of Matt on my first glance through. I have to check his filter though. I also think Muso is an idiot (scum or town) and I hope to never be in a game with him again. Doing some reading. I'm around for a little while and I'll be back. How long do we have until lynch and could we please get a votecount, thanks | ||
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On November 01 2012 10:17 Mattchew wrote: Release and zealos are probably scum [snippy snip] ##vote Release On November 02 2012 10:22 Mattchew wrote: Oh and my early reads are usually pretty good depending on the game On November 03 2012 01:23 Mattchew wrote: Let's go back to killing muso or release... Also acro's fake claim play was really fucking weird.. I have to look back at the timing of it when I'm on a comp a little later bolded for emphasis. What happened to Zealos? If your d1 reads are so good why have you dropped the Z man and are still pushing R dawg? This feels like a temperature test if ever there was one. | ||
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I think Muso is a bad lynch today but probably an excellent Vig shot. I hope the vig(s) are taking him into consideration. The reason I think he is a bad lynch is that he is too easy to jump on and Scum have a good way to hide their votes by sheeping all of town. I want a lynch that has some controversy so that everyone actually has to take a stand, without that we won't gain anything from d1. I want a case from every player in the game on someone before the lynch goes through. Townies: get your opinions out there, with that the scum will not be able to hide in the shadows. IN this vein I think that Matt is scum, he is playing in a way which obscures the goals of town and allows confusion into the thread. He is dropping his reads without iving any explanation and he is trying to get us to lynch Newbies for newbie mistakes. Scum. ## Vote: Matt | ||
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Off to school ya'll I'll be back as soon as I can be. See if you can't do some scum hunting while I'm gone. | ||
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On November 03 2012 02:34 syllogism wrote: /replacement You made me laugh. Thanks Syllo. Kush man, stop with the talk of Role names. You might be right but just saying the same thing over and over again doesn't help. You have provided that one thought, get out there and provide some more. It pains me when you do this because I know that you actually do know better you just get carried away. Draz: great, I love having no reads d1. That helps town. /sarcasm. Now sit down, shape up and tell us what you think about at least these three players (in detail): Matt, Muso, Acro. If you have time I would like to hear about Kush, Release and anyone else you would care to give an opinion on as well. On November 03 2012 03:18 thrawn2112 wrote: You have 0 votes but I wouldn't say that you being lynched is out of the question. If I knew who I wanted to lynch......... + Show Spoiler + I'd tell you His filter is scummy, his initial vote on muso was full of denials of responsibility such as things along the line of "if he's town then he's not helping." But much like you.... his town filters are always at least a little scummy so I haven't decided yet. Thrawnn...you are better than this. You have reads and you share them. This is scummy, you are too neutral on everyone. I don't care that we are in day one. You are one of the people, like me, who believes in trying d1 and think that people who don't are scummy so get it together. I'm watching you. Everyone: remember that Acro is NOT confirmed town at this point. His gambit was just that and it could have either scum or town motivation. What he says is true, he is one of the better players in this game and if he is alive later in the game he had better be looked at. If I'm alive I'll do the looking, if not one of you had better remember this. | ||
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How am I scummier than Draz? Or Muso? Also: just noticed that you answered a question for Muso. Why in the hell would you soft defend one of you scum reads (which I think he still is although you have said that his flipping green would make Me and Kush look scummier)? | ||
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Look, I'm town (I don't care if you think so, just run with it for a second) and if you get my lynched and I flip town what will you have gained by having me here? Nothing. You won't even acknowledge me or anything I've said. If, instead you work with me and look into what I have said town might be able to gain something even while mislynching me. Ignore me if you want to but that is a scum claim. | ||
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Yeah, you got red vibes off a guy for half of D1 and they are so strong that even though he replaced out you still want to lynch into his slot? That seems unlikely. Maybe you and I see replacements differently but I don't think that they can be held responsible for the actions of their predecessors, especially when there are no actions. Just a few somewhat scummy posts. It is funny, as I was reading this thread before I replaced in prp was up there on my scum list. Knowing his alignment now helps me narrow the scum field though. Do you disagree that Matt seems scummy for testing the waters with Zealos and pushing lynches on newbies? If so why do you not see those actions as scum or do you read the actions themselves differently than I do? | ||
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On November 03 2012 04:46 thrawn2112 wrote: @prom I'd like to hear you talk some more about muso. You said that you didn't want him lynched today but that he was a good vig shot... what are your actual opinions about him being town/scum? My actual opinions are that he is Fourface and that I can't read his ass at all. This kid comes in, says he doesn't know the difference between Mason and miller On November 01 2012 13:25 Muso wrote: and afterwards tells us it was a gambit. I feel like lynching him is a coinflip right now, he has given us a terrible play by either alignment which involves lying. The terrible play thing isn't indicative and the lying only bothers me because I assume he is experienced and knows what a damn fool thing he did. He is really easy to lynch though and I don't like that, it feels too much like LC where no one played the game because we had confirmed lynches and we lost because of it. Oh sorry guys I didn't know there was a difference between Mason and Miller. I know I said I'd played hundreds of mafia games before but I actually lied just to get in to the game. This is my first one, but I watched a few youtube videos so I thin I get it. Sorry if I'm bad :S Okay if Matt isn't an option out of Muso, Kush and Draz I'd take Draz. Kush has a really obvious meta and the longer he is in the game the more clear it will be where he stands, there is no need to waste a lynch now on a guy who will essentially claim his alignment later. See above for why I don't want to lynch Muso. His lynch feels like a coin flip that 1) doesn't have an amazing chance of netting us scum and 2) won't help us find the scum team if he is town or scum. Draz makes posts like this: On November 02 2012 23:17 drazak wrote: I don't see any reason to change my vote, I honestly have no freaking clue why muso did what he did, but there's nothing town about it, if he is town, he's doing a very bad job establishing himself as town. I hope he isn't town though, a D1 mafia kill would definitely ensure our town victory. Votes, says he isn't sure if the guy he is voting is town or scum, and says 'our town' which is often a thing newb scum do to reinforce the idea that they are town. Of those three I think Kush is slightly town right now and think saving him for later is almost always the best play with him. I think Muso should be looked at later; his play is bad, which is a bad tell not a scum tell, if he starts playing we might be able to get a read on him. Hopefully he eats a bullet. I think Draz is playing more anti-town than either of them (excluding the confusion caused by mason claiming) and would go for him over the other two. | ||
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Risk, what do you feel about release now? You were voting him earlier with what I read as a pressure vote. This is why I assume that: On November 01 2012 23:44 risk.nuke wrote: He's one of the better lynch candidates in the thread right now. Additionally there is a lot of boiling in the release is mafia cauldron. I want to find out is all talk and who's not. Was that a pressure vote and what do you feel about Release now? Zealos: the hell are you doing? You are voting near the deadline. And not here now. Come on back and get involved, if this is a lynch that matters to you (i.e. you are town) you should be around. | ||
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Okay, let's consolidate on two candidates. Muso and either me or drazak. I want people to have to make votes that count. We only have 90 minutes left and this is a crappy place to be as town. We need a lynch and it seems unlikely that we even have enough active players to lynch anyone other than Muso. If you are around please sound off in the thread with who you are voting and why that person is the most likely to flip scum out of the three candidates (Promethelax, Muso, Drazak). Those on me and Draz should consolidate to one candidate. I think that Draz is scummier than I am (though I have my role PM which certainly helps me exonerate myself). If we can I'd like to reduce this lynch to two candidates so that people have to vote in a way which will affect the outcome. + Show Spoiler + really sorry for quintuple posting, just trying to get everything into the thread while I have time, I'm working in 4 hours | ||
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What you are saying is that Muso might flip town, might flip scum but lynch him anyways? Is he your best scum read or are you annoyed at his shitty play? For me it is the latter not the former. Wonderful, you mentioned two players who are afk and aren't even up for consideration. Why did you bring up DP and Fuba but add no thoughts to them? Does that mean you read Acro as town? Please make your reads clear. I look forward to your return. | ||
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Hey Kush, thanks for being here. Care to provide some reads? I agree that what Draz just posted was fluffy fluff with nothing but cotton balls and down feathers in it. But you haven't been participating much recently, jump in here and share your thoughts buddy. | ||
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On November 03 2012 05:46 Release wrote: ##unvote ##vote: Promethelax No worries, drazzak, Fos: Drazzak+ Show Spoiler + to replace the vote accrofales: i really dislike the dichotomoy of Town-mafia, mafia -town, town-town, mafia-mafia, and such things as this. They tend to be too hypothetical and lack of concreteness/proof + Show Spoiler + On November 02 2012 23:28 Acrofales wrote: You need to focus more on behaviour and less on mechanics. 1. Because if you even did a LITTLE bit of thought you would see you're barking up the wrong tree and 2. Because more claims at this point is opposite of what we need. Let me spell it out for you. Unless you think it is the bluff of the century (and an INCREDIBLY risky one at that), it is completely impossible that Muso and I are both scum. That leaves: 1. We're both town. This is possible. 2. Muso is town and Acro is scum. This is retarded. Please answer why scum would COUNTERCLAIM a mason claim with no way of knowing it's not legit. 3. Muso is scum and Acro is town. This is possible. Given Muso's playstyle I am hesitant to say whether it's 1 or 3, but leaning marginally towards Muso being town. So, how about you look for scum instead of trying to get people to claim, which is starting to look very dodgy. Why are you voting me? Note just above you Fuba managed to address some points as to why he thinks Draz is the right vote? Yeah you didn't do that. Now come back and back up your vote with some actual thoughts. | ||
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On November 03 2012 05:53 Release wrote: I was on the previous page. I don't care whether you believe it: I didn't see those posts between mine. As the great Flamewheel said: Wat? I don't care what page you were on, you can still give reasons for voting someone. Now, what are your reasons? Kush: no one should be claiming until it is truly necessary, there have been enough dumb claims today and we should rely on our ability to play mafia and not our ability to read claim posts. | ||
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