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Map Pool for 2012 GSL Season 5

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pencil_ethics
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 01:28:16
October 23 2012 12:11 GMT
#1
The map pool for the upcoming season of GSL has been announced.
Ohana has been removed and replaced with a brand new map, Bel'Shir Vestige (벨시르 잔재) by Crux_EastWindy. The map pool change will occur starting from Code S Round of 32.

2012 GSL Season 5 Map Pool (listed in order as specified in announcement)
GSL Whirlwind
GSL Cloud Kingdom
GSL Entombed Valley
GSL Antiga Shipyard
GSL Daybreak
GSL Abyssal City
GSL Bel'Shir Vestige

New map: GSL Bel'Shir Vestige, by Crux_EastWindy

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2 Player Map
Tileset: Bel'Shir (Jungle)
Size: 124×144
Starting locations at 5 and 11 o'clock
All expansions 8m 2g except for the central two expansions which are 5m 1g (standard yield)

Description (Translation from the announcement): Bel'Shir Vestige has main paths located on the two central hills with a faster road available through the center when the destructible rocks are destroyed. As the game progresses the Xel'Naga watch towers see increased usage so it is expected that engagements will occur focused on control of the center of the map, but as there are detours available one cannot become complacent even with such control. Battles in the center of the map between main armies as well as multi-pronged attacks through the detours can be expected from this map.

Source: kr.gomtv.net Forum Announcement, supplemented with details from the original map publication post on PlayXP
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NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
October 23 2012 12:16 GMT
#2
That map seems really interesting, and the fact that the both low min / gas expos are in the middle, gives a bit more dynamic into the game, hope this map goes well
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Apack
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada159 Posts
October 23 2012 12:18 GMT
#3
So we'll see these maps on ladder in like, 6 or 7 months then
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51512 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 12:19:21
October 23 2012 12:19 GMT
#4
Remove Ohana, but not Antiga or Entombed (or even Daybreak)?
Really?
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 23 2012 12:19 GMT
#5
wow, pretty map. looking forward to it! hope players can adapt quickly.

replacing ohana, hrm.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 23 2012 12:19 GMT
#6
Out with the old and in with the new, I've seen enough games on Ohana/Daybreak/Cloud Kingdom/Antiga/Entombed Valley for a lifetime.

I guess it would be too big of a change to switch them all at once.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
October 23 2012 12:19 GMT
#7
Yes Ohana IS FINALLY REMOVED.

No more autowin for toss on that against zerg.
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
October 23 2012 12:19 GMT
#8
On October 23 2012 21:19 GTR wrote:
Remove Ohana, but not Antiga or Entombed (or even Daybreak)?
Really?


Well Ohana is super fucking boring.
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
October 23 2012 12:23 GMT
#9
Can we get a map without Xel'Naga Towers?
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
October 23 2012 12:24 GMT
#10
On October 23 2012 21:19 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 21:19 GTR wrote:
Remove Ohana, but not Antiga or Entombed (or even Daybreak)?
Really?


Well Ohana is super fucking boring.

But it means family. Moving to a larger map again, feels to large map centric to me.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
October 23 2012 12:25 GMT
#11
Fuck yeah, ohana is gone. Pretty map, godawfully boring games. Still no muspelheim though T_T New map looks very interesting, to say the least! This oughta shake things up.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
October 23 2012 12:25 GMT
#12
OMG I read it like it's the next ladder season map pool and got so excited...
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 23 2012 12:26 GMT
#13
new map looks like a slightly tweaked ohana that's a bit bigger, with more airspace as well as highground reminiscent of crossfire haha
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NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 12:26:54
October 23 2012 12:26 GMT
#14
How much longer Antiga will stay in the map pool. Games are boring on Antiga.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
October 23 2012 12:26 GMT
#15
Hm, I want to test this map. It's only uploaded on KR at the moment?
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
October 23 2012 12:27 GMT
#16
On October 23 2012 21:26 NightOfTheDead wrote:
How more longer Antiga will stay in the map pool. Games are boring on Antiga.


Disagreed, cross position Antiga is one of the better maps in the pool because it allows for more aggressive play. Broodlords also don't work as well on antiga as on other maps, which is good as well.
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
October 23 2012 12:28 GMT
#17
oh thank god. finally a thread without slayers

I'm not so sure about the middle rocks/XN towers position of Vestige. It came more natural at daybreak. This highground towers together with the fact that it seems like an up vs down situation there in contrast to the left/right on Daybreak make me wonder if this feature will be successful.
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pencil_ethics
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia174 Posts
October 23 2012 12:29 GMT
#18
On October 23 2012 21:26 Yello wrote:
Hm, I want to test this map. It's only uploaded on KR at the moment?

I would assume so, yes. EastWindy hasn't posted this map on TL, and GomTV is not exactly known for posting maps on other servers, so...
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 12:34:59
October 23 2012 12:29 GMT
#19
On October 23 2012 21:27 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 21:26 NightOfTheDead wrote:
How more longer Antiga will stay in the map pool. Games are boring on Antiga.


Disagreed, cross position Antiga is one of the better maps in the pool because it allows for more aggressive play. Broodlords also don't work as well on antiga as on other maps, which is good as well.


True, but it also means the same old 3 base center control winning the game if the game goes longer.
Arachne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
South Africa426 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 21:50:46
October 23 2012 12:30 GMT
#20
I don't think Toss can beat a zerg on this map

Edit: Hang on, does anyone see this as Daybreak, except the spawns have been swapped with bottom left to top left, and top right to bottom right? Its like the whole map has been rotated 90 degrees.

Rocks in the middle, xelnaga giving sight of the rocks, a pocket 3rd just outside the nat, a 3rd long the side, a 4th further down from the 3rd, etc etc


Edit2:
for those who think one line answers are always off the cuff

On October 24 2012 02:14 IPA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 21:30 Arachne wrote:
I don't think Toss can beat a zerg on this map

Edit: Hang on, does anyone see this as Daybreak, except the spawns have been swapped with bottom left to top left, and top right to bottom right? Its like the whole map has been rotated 90 degrees.

Rocks in the middle, xelnaga giving sight of the rocks, a pocket 3rd just outside the nat, a 3rd long the side, a 4th further down from the 3rd, etc etc


1. See a map for the first time
2. Making sweeping generalization

Excellent!

Map looks great and the pool is fantastic overall. I am a Z and I hate Antiga but I know it can create some interesting games -- not every map needs to favor us.


See map 1st time, Look at map, look at ramps, see multiple large access points to where protoss's 3rd can be, analyze likelihood of toss making mutiple 4 gateway walls, cross reference with the distance of the natural's minerals to the main's minerals to the likely location of the 3rd, and the distance to those mineral's, predict Muta from zerg most games vs toss, see toss scrambling to hold muta play, leaving two base timings as the stronger option, realize that toss 2 base timings have been mostly figured out, even the dreaded 2 base sentry immo push,

make sweeping generalization.
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