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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
February 01 2006 21:48 GMT
#1
Is that strat feasible for most of us or just ForU? What would be the build for it?
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Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
February 01 2006 22:10 GMT
#2
it's not feasable unless you get a good resource advantage. just like forU did in that game

but then if you're way ahead you could do any unit combo and be fine
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CommanderCheng
Profile Joined January 2006
China68 Posts
February 02 2006 00:08 GMT
#3
Give it a shot.

But when I think about it Macro is a very important factor in the TvP game and it might just hurt your ground unit count pretty badly. But then Disfunctional tanks will really help you and lots of Terran players don't spread their tanks out so I think you could pull it off.
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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
February 02 2006 01:44 GMT
#4
Get stasis instead if you have a resource advantage that big.
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RiSE
Profile Joined April 2004
United States3182 Posts
February 02 2006 03:30 GMT
#5
I think I remember a vod (ash.Swift maybe?) of him doing it, the terran looked to be on a lower level than him though
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
February 02 2006 05:12 GMT
#6
I'm not thinking just like as part of a super late game start, I'm thinking like midgame primary strat.

Obviously it can be put to great use if you have excess stargates, since you have the fleet beacon up anyway, but is it possible to play sair/goon straight through?
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Dantak
Profile Joined January 2006
Czech Republic648 Posts
February 02 2006 05:53 GMT
#7
This strategy is only viable on maps like lune, where terran don't have antiair like turrets. Also note that time of this spell is really short so you must really hurry

I also suggest it on R point where almost all Terrans go out with 200/200 all in.
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rpf289
Profile Joined October 2004
United States3524 Posts
February 02 2006 05:53 GMT
#8
I don't think it could be a viable strat as a main strategy. I mean, I can do 1gate scout, but it would never be an actual strategy.
ubergamer15
Profile Joined January 2005
United States645 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-02-02 06:04:45
February 02 2006 06:03 GMT
#9
Actually, never mind.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
February 02 2006 06:10 GMT
#10
What game is the one where ForU did sairs/goon? replay? Or we talking about the Top 23 of 2003 replays.
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rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
February 02 2006 10:30 GMT
#11
On February 02 2006 14:53 PetrBlaha wrote:
This strategy is only viable on maps like lune, where terran don't have antiair like turrets. Also note that time of this spell is really short so you must really hurry

I also suggest it on R point where almost all Terrans go out with 200/200 all in.


I agree. As a T player, I've only had sair/goon done on me twice in a real game, both of which were on Luna. It worked better than I thought it would, since the P was able to stop many of my attacks, but he never really was able to outmass me and control the map. Eventually, I just outmassed him.
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
February 02 2006 12:15 GMT
#12
maybe it would work to have some fun haha ¬¬
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
February 02 2006 12:22 GMT
#13
do mines work under dweb?
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
February 02 2006 13:34 GMT
#14
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boongee
Profile Joined November 2004
United States967 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-02-02 13:47:43
February 02 2006 13:47 GMT
#15
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
February 02 2006 15:46 GMT
#16
Yeah, it isn\'t really possible against somebody at the same level as you. If you have the game all wrapped up, then it\'s probably a fun little strategy that shows off a little skill. Otherwise, it could cost you the game if you lack good micro/macro.

Vultures will speedily zoom out of the disruption webs and can deal lots of damage, as microing the dragoons against vult/mine is hard to do while controlling the corsairs too. Corsair/d-web just in general takes too much micro its difficult to pull off. Nal_rA\'s reaver/corsair/d-web is so hard in that sense as well.
SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
February 02 2006 18:13 GMT
#17
I think it can be a cool answer to turtle terran. as toss in pvt you DO have the economic advantage, so if he fucks up an early attack and you get a serious advantage and don't want to wait late game 2-3 arbiters/carriers I think it can be really good and pimp and effective, especially if he's not at all prepared for them
ygor
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Slovakia246 Posts
February 02 2006 18:26 GMT
#18
This strategy worked for me lots of times. I think it's important to get 2nd expo a little bit later a prefer massing goons and one stargate corsairs to 110/200.
If there is a point in the game, when you see terran rolling towards you, you have to attack him in that moment, because he will just siege his tanks close to each other very fast. Webs will own these tanks
If you see teran slowly pushing towards getting his 2nd expo with tanks spread out, mining fields and turrets, you should abandon corsairs and concetrate on macro, getting more expos and getting carriers later. Webs will just not help you a lot.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
February 02 2006 18:46 GMT
#19
But all that gas can be spent in a million better ways...
So I still don't get the purpose besides good laughs at whoever gets humiliated..

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alphaentity
Profile Joined August 2005
United States525 Posts
February 02 2006 18:56 GMT
#20
On February 03 2006 03:26 ygor wrote:
This strategy worked for me lots of times. I think it's important to get 2nd expo a little bit later a prefer massing goons and one stargate corsairs to 110/200.
If there is a point in the game, when you see terran rolling towards you, you have to attack him in that moment, because he will just siege his tanks close to each other very fast. Webs will own these tanks
If you see teran slowly pushing towards getting his 2nd expo with tanks spread out, mining fields and turrets, you should abandon corsairs and concetrate on macro, getting more expos and getting carriers later. Webs will just not help you a lot.


Massing goons and corsairs till 110/200 off of one base ? I don't think that's possible cause terran will steam roll u with the better econ off 2 bases.
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