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isneakattack
Profile Joined October 2011
43 Posts
August 08 2012 01:37 GMT
#1
This is an amazing mix of technology that could help Starcraft Players improve their own game by watching others eye movements. I believe Day[9] would love to get this on some pros to use this to help analyze what they are thinking. Do you think this is a benefit to the community?
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 01:39:26
August 08 2012 01:39 GMT
#2
That's insane... How does it work, just a webcam?
FoTG fighting!
DreadKnight
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 01:42:56
August 08 2012 01:42 GMT
#3
On August 08 2012 10:39 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
That's insane... How does it work, just a webcam?


Edit: http://mirametrix.com/products/eye-tracker/
Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
August 08 2012 01:43 GMT
#4
This is great, why hasn't anyone thought of this earlier? I want to see what this looks like with a top-tier player.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 01:45:09
August 08 2012 01:43 GMT
#5
Needs more info. This looks like an awesome kit, but do you need special equipment? How reliable is it? Who made it and where does it come from? How much does it cost? is it free?

edit: "The S2 Eye Tracker costs $5,000 (academic discounts are offered.)" lol, no. Not free xD
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
August 08 2012 01:44 GMT
#6
On August 08 2012 10:39 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
That's insane... How does it work, just a webcam?


Not quite. The eyetracker can be a really expensive piece of gear ($5000 from the makers of this particular eye tracker) but it does look like a webcam type device. You can imagine all the extra costs account for the hardware and software that go into tracking the really subtle eye movements to exact precision.

This would be really cool to see in tournaments when they cut to player FPS.
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isneakattack
Profile Joined October 2011
43 Posts
August 08 2012 01:45 GMT
#7
Check out the set up...
Bwiggly
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States246 Posts
August 08 2012 01:46 GMT
#8
Holy $5000 dollars batman, but still really cool to see and could let spectators really get into the heads of the pros if ever used in tournies.
Talicsnake
Profile Joined January 2011
United States31 Posts
August 08 2012 01:46 GMT
#9
Cool beans, it'd be cool if some pros streamed using this. If this uses hardware/software that is readily available to people maybe it can be incorporated into sc2Gears.
Sid(TB)
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States314 Posts
August 08 2012 01:47 GMT
#10
5k$, maybe a team could pick them up as a sponsor? this would be cool
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
August 08 2012 01:47 GMT
#11
This actually looks kind of distracting from the rest of the game ~~
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
August 08 2012 01:48 GMT
#12
This is amazing. Even if it was just a novelty, it would still be amazing to watch how really good players use this. Also, any genre of games would be interesting as well.
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
August 08 2012 01:48 GMT
#13
I've seen these used in cognitive psychology experiments to analyze how people look through an image, great idea to use them in video games to further our understanding of the pro's mind.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
August 08 2012 01:53 GMT
#14
It's definitely more interesting than the heartbeat tracker, I'll give em' that.
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VTArlock
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1763 Posts
August 08 2012 01:57 GMT
#15
And for the low cost of... oh... interesting anyway.
Why?
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
August 08 2012 02:13 GMT
#16
Cool!!

Apart from the spectator value, it can probably be used for strategy as well. Like studying what makes people not look at minimap for a long time, to understand how to best distract from drops.

Fun to see how the mouse often clicks in the middle of the eye tracker. And how the eye tracker moves down to look on the wire frames during battles to check health. Red wire frame seems to be an eye magnet for example.
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
August 08 2012 02:31 GMT
#17
I think it would be extremely cool for play by plays, especially if you see an army get absolutely devestated you can see why and where the player was allocating his time, great for that MLG touch screen display (YOU MUST BE THIS TALL TO CAST! lololol)

FoTG fighting!
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
August 08 2012 02:32 GMT
#18
i think people over-analyze starcraft. they keep logs, spend countless hours watching day9, pay for coaching, and now track eye movements. Don't get me wrong, theses things are extremely useful for some more than others, but I think if you just spend most of your time playing and having fun with the game while maybe doing some other little things like watching vods and streams a bit (day9, etc.) you will improve more quickly.
FinalForm
Profile Joined August 2010
United States450 Posts
August 08 2012 02:33 GMT
#19
eyetrackers measure the movement on your fovea,(the back of your eye) with lasers. The data is transmitted to a computer that calculates the point of vision.

most vision labs use these to discover what objects people find salient (interesting) in images or videos
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 02:49:49
August 08 2012 02:35 GMT
#20
I guess most pros would be flicking back and forth between resources and minimap more than the main screen.

I know I barely look at whats happening on the screen and mostly look at resources and minimap, and kind of partially look at the screen while being focused on the minimap. Where as when I started I would only look at the main screen.

I could be wrong tho.
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