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risk.nuke
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You guys are so weak. | ||
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risk.nuke
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Chaos and rockin the boat is equally dumb. I don't know to what effect scum can use their communication but it seems to be very limited. Destroying the atmosphere and towns sense of direction to slightly damage the scums abillity to communicate seems like shooting a mosquito on the foot with a bazooka. Blazinghand is the one who's spot on. On July 16 2012 15:32 Blazinghand wrote: @Prob: I think that's Chezinu you got quoted there. In any case, in this setup it seems pretty straightforwards to me. Analyze like normal, hold people to their views like normal, look for weird unsubstantiated cases like normal. There's more scum and they're less organized, but I don't see why we need to do our D1 or D2 anything different than what we typically do. Just keep an eye open for people doing shit without legit town motives and you're good to go as always. @Chezinu: Chaos bad ##vote: Chezinu The only difference between this game and a normal game is everyone needs to scumhunt. | ||
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The scenario is this. We RL today. Scum kills a townie tonight. What's different tomorrow. The odds are the chances of hitting scum with a RL tomorrow is even greater? Do you wany to do it again or do you suggest we try to analyze-lynch then, with the same information we have now. Things can only get worse with RL unless we assume we're going to be lucky and it is always foolish to assume you will be lucky. And even in the lucky scenario we loose one day of discussion. | ||
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Kurumi looks pretty busted. His first response to the accusation I can't buy. Feels like a poor scum-excuse but a nonexistant townexcuse and his posts after that are aligned with what I would expect from a busted scum. | ||
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On July 17 2012 06:51 supersoft wrote: hahaha, you still think it's necessary to reason your vote if we got a case that clear? He claimed scum dude? It never hurt to state why you think what. He didn't claim scum, he got busted for something. Don't mix those up. What I did to be objective was I thought on what I might had believed if I had gotten that message and how I could had reacted. I probably wouldn't had thought it was a scum message. I might had believed there were some townie who could send a message to a random confirmed townie or something along those lines. I would had found it very unlikely that it was from a third party. | ||
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On July 17 2012 07:27 Kurumi wrote: YOU would find it very unlikely that it was from a third party. I found it the most reasonable. Townie messaging you to do things? Then you find out that NOBODY has done this? I thought about claiming getting this message but 1) I did not get confirmation from hosts I could talk about it 2) I was planning to reveal it close before the night starts/after it starts so we could work things out. I KNEW it wasn't a scum message because that's not how things work. Town doesn't get orders. Scum do. (I was even questioning my alignment) So I went with it. I figured out someone's doing some fun circle, probably Chez so I went with it. Did I think about it as a town message? Not at all. Town DOESN'T GET ORDERS. So I assumed it was third party. It will be so fun when I flip town~ It's never fun when someone flips town. But I don't believe you. | ||
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risk.nuke
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On July 17 2012 12:31 wherebugsgo wrote: who cares if he's pushing someone else who you also think is scum? Scum will do that in this game because it serves their interests best. Part of my whole "let syllo find scum" bit is that you can actually almost trust reads given by scum in this game. It means you ignore things you would normally count as town tells (i.e. if they push a scum then you don't count it as a town tell) however you CAN take everyone's pushes seriously because everyone in the game has an interest in finding scum. In other words establishing yourself as town takes more effort but everyone's scumhunting can be taken at least partially seriously. This is unlike other games where establishing yourself as town is fairly easy because not everyone's scumhunting can be taken seriously. wbg gets it | ||
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On July 18 2012 06:21 marvellosity wrote: for tonight, 6h 40 mins Okey good thanks, I just finnished reading up on the thread and I'd say I did better then skimming but not really a thorough readthrough either. Right now I'm feeling of a mind to join in on the austin wagon. It seems nice there. | ||
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##vote austinmcc | ||
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On July 19 2012 01:19 syllogism wrote: I can't believe this game uses extended majority lynch. How was that a good idea Don't blame the system when the fault lies in a dumb unorganized town. | ||
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On July 20 2012 01:37 Blazinghand wrote: I don't like risk.nuke. I think part of it is his disgusting reaver portrait, but check it out: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=76576 His initial comments actually aren't that bad, viewed on their own-- he doesn't like chaos or chezinu, he calls out the bad day 1 reads thing, and he argues about about RL. But how much as he really added since that initial outburst of early game chatter? Well, He drops a vote on Kurumi with some minimal discussion, since Kurumi is basically scum D1. He explains his vote. And then... nothing. He drops a vote on austinmcc later as we get closer to the lynch deadline. That's everything Risk.Nuke has done. Now, I could imagine having a relatively quiet first half of D1, or maybe entire D1. But we're in D2 now, and after a whole night and nearly a third of D2, RN is unbelievably quiet. Why is that? It's not because he thinks there's nothing to talk about, I can assure you that-- he made a pretty long response to one of the opening posts when there was less activity: (link) Risk.Nuke is alarmingly inactive-- he's posted no analysis, no reads, nothing. Since the end of D1 he's made two posts: The first one is worthless, and the second one is (in the first half) self evident and (in the second half) completely left hanging. What are you doing, risk.nuke? why so unhelpful? Why so lurk? why so scum? lol, I can't believe you believe in your post. But back to that in a second. Well, why I'm doing jack shit right now. I know kurumi is scum and thanks to RoL beeing dumb he's still alive. And that is like having a pointy rock in my shoe. It's hard to motivate myself to focus on anyone else before it's gone. And it may be day 2 but we haven't had a lynch yet. So it's only day 2 by name. We do not have a lynch to look at for information. Your case reeks of hints that scream you don't believe I am scum so I'm very suspicious of why you've accused me. Things in your post that make me doubt you believe in your case. I don't like risk.nuke. I think part of it is his disgusting reaver portrait, but check it out: You're beeing unserious when you're starting up your post. You've left out that the reason I didn't do much chatting during the second half of day 1 was because I was working and therefor "unavailable" the entire day. Also If you look at my latest games you will see that I don't talk much during nights either. Anyway you keep ignoring that and just tries to hammer down a "this is all he's done under all this time". It's nice to conveniently leave out parts. I find that very odd and suspicious, especially since this is your main point against me. Most importantly what I don't like is you never say you think I'm scum exept for in the very end where you very subtly include it in a nice tripple liner why so unhelpful? Why so lurk? why so scum? That's very weird because if you had never called me scum in the entire post it would had been so obvious scumpost where you try to make other people push townies for you. But you did accuse me of beeing scum but why is the scumaccusation so small and hidden?This just feels like an attempt to divert towns attention from kurumi (who's near confirmed scum). My greatest fear is that people will second guess themselves on kurumi and botch his lynch again. Now BH you got me excited. I hope I get a response from you soon why you've chosen to push an untrue case on me when there are plenty of cases out there who doesn't need to be twisted bent or seen from a false perspective. Is it because you're worried those actually are scum and you don't want to push real scum? | ||
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On July 20 2012 07:42 Mattchew wrote: Cool add zealos to the list Scum = Foolishness Kurumi Zealos VE Rastaban Katina MZ VE? I've been getting townvibes from Vicera. Want to elaborate Mattchew? | ||
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On July 20 2012 22:52 rastaban wrote: Hmm I guess Sandroba could have bussed 2 minions to make it seem he has his role. Well that is easy to check, We just have town decide who he messages next. He only has 1 minion left at this point if scum exec, so only 1 in 20 something of actually picking that person. If that person gets the message then we confirm him town, if not then we can lynch him. he gets 1 a 1/2 cycle and no one else is likely to fall for it at this point so no waste if he gices up one of them to confirm himself. Does anyone think this makes sense. | ||
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On July 22 2012 00:47 Palmar wrote: if you can shoot tonight kill foolishness, syllo, katina, BM, zealos etc I'll be around later rastaban too. | ||
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On July 22 2012 04:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Players widely regarded as scum: Foolishness, Blazinghand, Palmar (though at present I don't want to lynch him) and...what, has Chezinu reached that threshold yet? That's our lynch docket tomorrow: Foolishness, Blazinghand, Palmar, Chezinu Because we need focus. Okey lets focus, and then you decide those are the candidates. Good luck getting people to agree on that lynch. Alternativly (which is a much better idea) we just lynch katina or zealous who've basicly scumclaimed by not beeing suspicious against eachother. | ||
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