Bureaucracy Mafia!

On July 16 2012 15:32 Blazinghand wrote:
@Prob: I think that's Chezinu you got quoted there.

In any case, in this setup it seems pretty straightforwards to me. Analyze like normal, hold people to their views like normal, look for weird unsubstantiated cases like normal. There's more scum and they're less organized, but I don't see why we need to do our D1 or D2 anything different than what we typically do. Just keep an eye open for people doing shit without legit town motives and you're good to go as always.

@Chezinu: Chaos bad

##vote: Chezinu

On July 17 2012 06:51 supersoft wrote:


hahaha, you still think it's necessary to reason your vote if we got a case that clear? He claimed scum dude?

On July 17 2012 07:27 Kurumi wrote:

YOU would find it very unlikely that it was from a third party. I found it the most reasonable. Townie messaging you to do things? Then you find out that NOBODY has done this? I thought about claiming getting this message but 1) I did not get confirmation from hosts I could talk about it 2) I was planning to reveal it close before the night starts/after it starts so we could work things out. I KNEW it wasn't a scum message because that's not how things work. Town doesn't get orders. Scum do. (I was even questioning my alignment) So I went with it. I figured out someone's doing some fun circle, probably Chez so I went with it. Did I think about it as a town message? Not at all. Town DOESN'T GET ORDERS. So I assumed it was third party. It will be so fun when I flip town~

On July 17 2012 12:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
who cares if he's pushing someone else who you also think is scum? Scum will do that in this game because it serves their interests best.

Part of my whole "let syllo find scum" bit is that you can actually almost trust reads given by scum in this game. It means you ignore things you would normally count as town tells (i.e. if they push a scum then you don't count it as a town tell) however you CAN take everyone's pushes seriously because everyone in the game has an interest in finding scum.

In other words establishing yourself as town takes more effort but everyone's scumhunting can be taken at least partially seriously. This is unlike other games where establishing yourself as town is fairly easy because not everyone's scumhunting can be taken seriously.

On July 18 2012 06:21 marvellosity wrote:
for tonight, 6h 40 mins

On July 19 2012 01:19 syllogism wrote:
I can't believe this game uses extended majority lynch. How was that a good idea

On July 20 2012 01:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't like risk.nuke. I think part of it is his disgusting reaver portrait, but check it out:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=76576

His initial comments actually aren't that bad, viewed on their own-- he doesn't like chaos or chezinu, he calls out the bad day 1 reads thing, and he argues about about RL. But how much as he really added since that initial outburst of early game chatter?

Well, He drops a vote on Kurumi with some minimal discussion, since Kurumi is basically scum D1. He explains his vote.

And then... nothing. He drops a vote on austinmcc later as we get closer to the lynch deadline.

That's everything Risk.Nuke has done.

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Now, I could imagine having a relatively quiet first half of D1, or maybe entire D1. But we're in D2 now, and after a whole night and nearly a third of D2, RN is unbelievably quiet. Why is that? It's not because he thinks there's nothing to talk about, I can assure you that-- he made a pretty long response to one of the opening posts when there was less activity: (link)

Risk.Nuke is alarmingly inactive-- he's posted no analysis, no reads, nothing. Since the end of D1 he's made two posts:



The first one is worthless, and the second one is (in the first half) self evident and (in the second half) completely left hanging.

What are you doing, risk.nuke?

why so unhelpful? Why so lurk? why so scum?

I don't like risk.nuke. I think part of it is his disgusting reaver portrait, but check it out:

why so unhelpful? Why so lurk? why so scum?

On July 20 2012 07:42 Mattchew wrote:
Cool add zealos to the list


Scum =
Foolishness
Kurumi
Zealos
VE
Rastaban
Katina
MZ

On July 20 2012 22:52 rastaban wrote:
Hmm I guess Sandroba could have bussed 2 minions to make it seem he has his role. Well that is easy to check, We just have town decide who he messages next. He only has 1 minion left at this point if scum exec, so only 1 in 20 something of actually picking that person. If that person gets the message then we confirm him town, if not then we can lynch him. he gets 1 a 1/2 cycle and no one else is likely to fall for it at this point so no waste if he gices up one of them to confirm himself.

On July 22 2012 00:47 Palmar wrote:
if you can shoot tonight kill foolishness, syllo, katina, BM, zealos etc

I'll be around later

On July 22 2012 04:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Players widely regarded as scum:

Foolishness, Blazinghand, Palmar (though at present I don't want to lynch him) and...what, has Chezinu reached that threshold yet?

That's our lynch docket tomorrow: Foolishness, Blazinghand, Palmar, Chezinu

Because we need focus.