anyway, /in i have never been modkilled and i don't intend to change that in this game
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How exactly is zentor in a game that he /outed? | ||
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prplhz: Lets policy lynch zentor because he's the one I have had the worst experience playing with! zentor: What, I'm not scum! Well no one ever said that you were so why are you already denying it? How about that? Anyway, I am suggesting a policy lynch on zentor unless we find something better and I don't think that that's a bad idea at all, actually it's a pretty good idea. Who would you policy lynch VisceraEyes? Just someone random? I'm sure we can have one of the lovely hosts pick out a random number for us (so we don't have to deal with all that derp about how you pick an actually random person that we had in iGrok's game). | ||
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Anyway, zentor is actually complaining that he is being focused and cracking under pressure but he is not providing anything else we should talk about, just trying to stifle ongoing discussion. On page 2. | ||
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On June 22 2012 13:36 Probulous wrote: So you want to lynch Prpl then? He seems useless to me, he seemed useless in iGrok's game and was town. I won't get in your way if you want to lynch him I just can't tell if he is scum or not right now. Convince me I really resent how you keep saying that I was useless in iGrok's game. You try replacing into a game where everybody thinks you're scum because of something someone else did. Additionally I was busy with other stuff and my TL time somehow went to other things. I did read the thread and my first read was to lynch Radfield because he was alive. Radfield was scum and GMarshal had this to say after the game. The second time I tried to really contribute I pointed out the last two scum, Mr. Wiggles and Radfield. I was a little flaky on GreYMisT because I hadn't read his filter but I was confident enough that Mr. Wiggles and Radfield were the remaining scum that that didn't stop me. I have no idea why you are even talking about that game in this game or why you insist on slandering me like that. Who made you a judge of anything? On June 22 2012 13:41 MrZentor wrote: PRPLHZ, answer his question or I will be extremely angry with you! Answering because I don't want to give you an excuse for anything. You said that people were being too aggressive. On June 22 2012 13:43 VisceraEyes wrote: prplhz is good town player. I say this not because he's often right (because he's not) but because he's often very transparently town, like me. Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia II My first game with prplhz. His play is much better these days, but this is a good illustration of what I mean when I say a good town player. Contributing, honest and willing to talk about things. Open with his suspicions, and reacts decently to pressure (ironically, I thought he was scum and tunneled him pretty bad.) Furthermore, I don't think prplhz is the type of player to bring a grudge like that between games. He's not that kind of player, and has been around long enough to know that's a losing strategy. He's putting on a show. I think so because look at how he reacts to my interaction with it. To be honest, I like my vote where it's at...I just don't want to stop scumhunting with marvel. Why are you posting a game from like more than a year ago? This is my 21st town game in a row (not counting smurf games and requests), there are plenty of other more recent games you can pick. Also, I'm not putting on a show. While I don't want to play with zentor, he's still the best policy lynch because he is a perpetual null who plays for the scum team. I already said this and yea, I am pretty serious about this. On June 22 2012 18:31 marvellosity wrote: What an exceptionally stupid thing to say, well done. Please, manner. @risk.nuke In Pick Your Poison you put yourself in a position on day3 where everybody else thought you were scum and you couldn't defend yourself because you hadn't shown your investment in the game during the previous days. You ended up getting mislynched and you in big part responsible for this yourself. You are doing this again right now. Please be more active. | ||
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You said that you wouldn't contribute until tomorrow because there's wasn't anything in the thread. Now you're saying it's because you need time to think about what's in the thread. It sounds to me like you don't have an opinion about something very central to townies: how to catch scum. Instead you're just making stuff up on the fly. Really, we're lynching MrZentor today. | ||
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VisceraEyes, marvellosity You two go sit in opposite corners staring into the wall for a little while. Seriously, stop it. I don't really want any of you lynched today but that might change if you don't stop this. You have focused each other enough. I honestly don't even get what this marvellosity case is about, even after reading Probulous write-up. I think it looks pretty right when marvellosity says that you're just taking one little thing and then you're just tunneling him. zentor is a better lynch than any of you because his short filter is full of things that will give you a headache, and because according to his previous games, that's not likely to change on day2. He is doing objectively scummy things such as making up bullshit excuses for not contributing that contradict each other, and stalling while promising that he'll do something later. His latest contribution was my filter in a spoiler. We might as well get rid of him early on unless we have a better lead. Do you really think that either of you is a better lynch than zentor? | ||
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On June 22 2012 07:41 prplhz wrote: Okay whatever the fuck. I joined this game because I thought zentor had outed by meh. zentor is the default lynch for today because he's an unpleasant person just to have around. In case we don't find anything better then he should die just because of how destructive he is when he's town. I played with it once and I don't want to play with it again. ##Vote: MrZentor On June 22 2012 07:43 MrZentor wrote: I'm not scum; I'm just busy playing LoL. I write "lets lynch zentor because i don't particularly enjoy his company" and then he replies with "i'm not scum". This doesn't make sense because he was never accused of being scum but because he is scum he jumps to the conclusion that any vote on him is because he is scum. On June 22 2012 11:09 MrZentor wrote: I don't see how you can find somebody so suspicious so early in the game. -.- I'll find scum when I have more content. On June 22 2012 12:55 MrZentor wrote: I'm not going to fabricate reads to try to convince you I'm town; I'll probably provide some analysis tomorrow when there's more to analyze. On June 22 2012 21:42 MrZentor wrote: Prphlz, what you fail to realize is that different things are scummy for different players. I always need a little time to digest the information. He is stalling while trying to avoid contributing. First he says that he needs more content, then he says that he needs more time! Why is he suddenly changing his explanation? Because he is just making this up on the fly. Why the arbitrary "tomorrow" deadline? How can he know that he'll have the content he needs tomorrow? It seems like he just thought "I'll not do anything today and then I'll keep them at bay by saying I'll do something tomorrow". Townies can't plan cases, they appear when other people write shit. His latest contribution is taking my filter and copy/pasting it into a spoiler tag. What the hell? If you want zentor around tomorrow over risk.nuke then you need to get your brain checked. | ||
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In WoF he was up for day1 lynch and then we no lynched (even though I know that you just lynch and then get on with the game). He ended up getting lynched on day2 after an abysmal performance. I don't want that kind of distraction around and he's the best policy lynch by far, even though there are a couple of players in this game that I don't even know. I have something that I want to try out too and I don't think we should be all fixed on zentor lynch but you guys saying that we should just leave him around for day2 and lynch people who are more active, easier to read, and more pleasant just because you have a flimsy case or a gut read are crazy. | ||
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What are you doing slOosh? | ||
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On June 22 2012 08:41 Zephirdd wrote: This is a semi-closed setup. If there are 13 players, it's possible that 12 are medics and 1 is a scum. Of course that's retarded as fuck, but nothing is concrete and we shouldn't think "but it's not common to 2 of X" exist ever. at all. In fact, we can't even confirm the existence of a SK until after the night phase. I'm not sure about Millers instaclaiming. While it clears path for cops(as it's pretty obvious that they will show red), it also reduces the number of possible blues, making it easier for scum. At least what I understood from the setup is that Millers can't be blues. If anything, Millers should be breadcrumbing and claiming in case a cop calls them guilty. For all other purposes, they should be *Vanilla*(unclaimed, aka. possible blue) to make it harder for mafia to shoot into blues. This is the post in question. People have already said that this is a bad plan and I agree with that. My problem isn't that he's suggesting a bad plan. it's that I think it comes from a scum perspective. Scum are much more likely to suggest plans that they think are bad for them. For scum, it doesn't really matter if millers claim or not but what Zephirdd focuses on is how it will make them confirmed green and not blue. Zephirdd thinks that that will narrow down the pool of potential blues that scum can shoot which will be a plus for scum. Townies would never focus on this because they don't really care about blues, they care about analysis and avoiding chaos and that's what miller claims will help them avoid. This is really the crux of my case but I'm going to write some more that might convince other people too. First Zephirdd is pretty suspicious about rastaban. Worst case ever into doesn't feel like your other games. He never does anything. Next he has an epiphany that VisceraEyes and marvellosity are scum and again he doesn't do anything about it. No vote, no push, no anything. He looks pretty convinced from what he is saying but he's not acting on it. In the end he jumps on the zentor wagon as the 9th voter, an ultra safe vote based off of two lines of analysis that has already been made several times by other people. What you guys think about this? | ||
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On June 24 2012 05:36 slOosh wrote: Prplhz I need your current thoughts on rastaban and MrZentor. The case you made against Zephirdd could have been made very early on in the game and it clashes with your "let's lynch MrZentor if we have nothing else" because you say this phrase after the quoted Zephirdd's post. ... are you seriously asking about my opinion of zentor? I gave my opinion on both of them already. rastaban here and zentor here. rastaban looked a little bad with his first case but he looks more interested and less lurky now. I have preferred a zentor lynch to rastaban at all points in this game. zentor himself looks like nothing. My case on Zephirdd could have been made early on and I saw the things I just wrote in that post before anybody else started attacking the post for containing a bad plan. I just didn't want to put any pressure on him 'cause it was very early in the day and I wanted to see how he did with the least possible pressure on him. It doesn't clash with "unless we have something else". I say that phrase or similar several times in this game because the zentor lynch has been somewhat of a policy lynch and those shouldn't be done without discussion which I was trying to encourage so scum (and others) don't have a dumb excuse for just going "lol vote zentor im afk". It doesn't mean "unless I have a slight hunch on anything else" because I always have that. I'm still considering who I want to lynch. I agree that this zentor lynch is looking uncomfortably easy but on the other hand it was pushed pretty hard before gaining any sort of momentum and there's been a case on him like all game. rastaban's point that Zephirdd was looking up old games and scum tend to be lazy is kind of okay. I don't have any clear reads right now and this is really bothering me 'cause usually I have at least a town read or two at this point. | ||
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