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On June 24 2012 01:39 JieXian wrote: ya 8 am but i'll still have to read all the posts and think right...... The answer is clear: do not sleep. Sleep is overrated anyway...  | ||
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I don't like you not liking my name. Seems racist. On the policy: I believe we should try to identify and lynch mafia first. Simple policy, but with great results. | ||
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But that also means when I say "I am mafia." you should lynch me no matter whether it is true or not, as if I'm telling the truth, you just lynched mafia, and if it is not true you lynched liar. (breaks my heart  )But I believe we should try to identify and lynch blues first, confusing mafia and leaving them vulnerable... | ||
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On June 25 2012 22:28 JieXian wrote: Jokes aside, Esspen why the hell did you post that? To be quite honest, just to see reactions of people. And maybe catch some scummy behaviour. Btw I must say that Release seems to be the scum as all reacted to my post it the form of "wtf? please explain" etc. wanting some explanation, yet Release is the only one actually attacking. On June 25 2012 23:52 Release wrote: If yourself and vivax found that confusing, doesn't that make him Mafia (as opposed to yourselves)? Townies are trying to avoid confusion while mafia try to cause confusion. If you say his reasoning is the reasoning is your reasoning, that's kind of a catch 22 | ||
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And on the silly thing I wrote, I really hope you don't think that if I was mafia I would be so obvious. Though I understand concern as this is newbie game after all. And just a question: why would anyone no-lynch on the Day 1? | ||
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Case on BioSC: His posts before someone accused him as lurker: On June 25 2012 11:01 BioSC wrote: I like Esspen. A man after my own heart! I've played in one other newbie mafia game, and lurking town + scum made it hard to make reads. So post, and post often, lest I find you and do horrible things to your bodies. And hi everyone else! On June 25 2012 12:57 BioSC wrote: Right now would be the perfect time to discuss it, seeing as we've been talking about it since game start. Now would be a good time to say some things, seeing as how you have the first vote and all. On June 26 2012 03:32 BioSC wrote: @ JieXian - We have 48 hours from the day 1 post to decide a lynch target, and then 24 hours to submit night actions. The mafia get to shoot at this time as well. Then it all starts over. So far he has said the obvious, embraced the discussion (while not adding anything to it - this is just weird) and answered a question. Contribution to town - zero. But after he gets mentioned as a possible target for lynch for being a lurker, he gets active and tries to put the focus on the other lurker who is even more lurkerious. He also mentiones he's not lurker which can only mean that he saw himself being active - might indicate that he wrote such vacuous things for a reason. Also he attacks the one who proposed him for the lynch. His posts after getting accused for being a lurker: On June 26 2012 12:12 BioSC wrote: I'm confused... You want to change policy to lynching lurkers, but want to lynch me because I'm not lurking? Huh... On June 26 2012 12:41 BioSC wrote: Whatever. My point was that you want to lynch lurkers. AegonC isn't going to be modkilled. He's met the quota (Barely, but he has) Release called you out on your first policy, and now you are shifting to lurkers. On June 26 2012 13:03 BioSC wrote: Sorry, I'm not going to make a case on myself for you. If you believe me to be scum, make the case. Look through my filter. I've discussed policy (Hint: I want people to post too) You are voting for me? Why? Am I a lurker? I'm not even sure you know why you are voting for me. We've done and posted about pretty much the same things. So, I bounce the question back to you. What makes me a lurker, a candidate for YOUR policy, over someone who's filter I can quote in 4 lines? + Show Spoiler + On June 17 2012 03:09 AegonC wrote: /in This is my first mafia game, I believe I am signing up correctly. On June 25 2012 10:22 AegonC wrote: Perhaps the best way to approach this situation is circumspectly, that is to say don't rush into any stupid decisions. I agree with Hopeless1der, truth should be our banner and justice our sigil! On June 26 2012 13:43 BioSC wrote: ## Vote Hopeless1der Odd, because I was about to say similar to you. You have yet to explain to me why I've met your random, mysterious qualities for lurking, over someone with bare minimum posting standards. Here's me not discussing policy - + Show Spoiler + On June 25 2012 11:01 BioSC wrote: I like Esspen. A man after my own heart! I've played in one other newbie mafia game, and lurking town + scum made it hard to make reads. So post, and post often, lest I find you and do horrible things to your bodies. And hi everyone else! Hmm... so lets see, now who's meeting policy? Don't try to make a half assed case on me and ignore portions of my filter, especially this early, there is no reason for it. We wanted policy talk done early. I made my statement about lurkers, and that was it. Now, lets go through YOUR posts. Your opening post contains some cliche townie wisdom/ Your "policy" (don't lie) wrapped up in some cute dialect. 2-4th posts are you floundering about when Release calls you out on your policy. Trying to make yourself seem better when you are called out (I.E. excuse making.) Then this post: + Show Spoiler + On June 26 2012 04:46 Hopeless1der wrote: FOS:Esspen Blues are townies as well, yes? In what game would your suggestion be beneficial to the town? Certainly not a newbie game. This is an insane statement to make, regardless of "I wanted to see the reactions." Also, Release hasn't really questioned you except for the whole "OMGUS" as the opening post: Oh noes...Granted Release is attacking just about anyone right now, but that's to get things going. Your statement was ridiculous and right now, I'm suspect you of trying to shift the attention back onto him since he's been so vocal that it makes him an easier target. Release has gone to bed, so his pressure is off you, and now you begin shifting attention away from yourself. Start with the easiest case, Esspen with his really bad "joke" statement. Easy target to shift focus to. Finally, we arrive to your 3rd policy of the day, Lurkers. No one is really biting on Esspen for whatever reason, so you need to find something that sticks. Lurkers gets some comments, as some people have already expressed interest in that policy. So your choices are arbitrarily narrowed down to 2 people. If you honestly expect people to follow your lynch lurker policy, Aegon would have probably been a better choice. Hell, I may have gone along with you. But for whatever reason you have yet to explain adequately, you focus me. I think you may have made a few too many scumslips. You can stick to policy lynching lurkers. I'll policy lynch scum. On June 26 2012 13:51 BioSC wrote: Don't think I've forgotten about you Aegon FOS Aegon Step up the activity. If you don't want to be next. I'm going to bed. See everyone in the morning. Now on Release: There is just something wrong with him. Seems like a smart guy, might as well be the most heard one so noone would assume he's mafia. Why would anyone assume that the most outgoing person is mafia? That's it on him. Anyway we should all reach some consensus for whom to vote, and then all vote for him. | ||
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On June 27 2012 08:07 BioSC wrote: EBWOP: That goes for Esspen as well. There is NO excuse. There are plenty of cases to choose from. How people are missing Hopeless' scumminess is beyond me, but do NOT waste votes like that. You are too easy targets for scum to manipulate your votes like that. There are cases, but those cases are not going to be lynched anyway as now it's either Hopeless or Rofl. I unfortunately cannot vote for Hopeless as only thing he's done is gone maybe too far with attacking you, otherwise I completely agree with him. | ||
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My defence is that I'm not mafia. And I voted for Hopeless in the end because I've read all BioSC's case against him few minutes before voting and decided to vote for him, and in the worst case that he was townie I would just press against BioSC even more (which I'm going to do as of now). Plus I'm good soul and like saving people. | ||
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From the moment he got out of focus, he starts again being silent. There is something terribly wrong with this man. Plus after hopeless got lynched he posted: On June 27 2012 09:44 BioSC wrote: GG Hopeless1der. I hope that town learns a lesson from this. Scum didn't even need to vote for Hopeless OR Rofl to get a townie lynch. Lurkers, step up the posting. This is unacceptable. Having voted for him, this seems like he's trying to shift attention from him to others. FOS Vivax On June 29 2012 01:46 Vivax wrote: Jingle, there is a difference between a town suspecting lots of different people at once (what I actually wrote and claimed to be bad) and a townie having multiple targets at once (what I am doing). What I'm saying is that town should be able to reach conclusions on single players, not that each townie should just focus on one. Can you please try to explain this? I find this response incredibly scummy. And I agree with other cases on you, there are so many inconsistencies in you which actually seem to have sense if looked from mafia's perspective. | ||
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On June 29 2012 02:45 BioSC wrote: Now that you are here, and have posted your reads, which of me or Vivax is the bigger scum read atm? Both, I'm certain for you 98% and Vivax 102% (ok that means Vivax). And this defence of eachother just makes me think you are both scums. In case Vivax (i know i said i believe both BioSC and Vivax are scums, but more people seem to dislike Vivax) won't seem to get lynched this day I have two propositions: 1: you lynch me and if I turn out to be townie, you lynch Vivax 2: you lynch Vivax and if he turns out to be townie, you lynch me | ||
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On June 30 2012 01:31 Keirathi wrote: Also re BioSC: That's the worst logic I've ever heard. You kill the target the DT claimed as scum, NOT THE DT HIMSELF. That would make no sense at all. Why would you not want more of the DT's info, assuming he is actually the DT? Here's the possible ways this can play out: 1) We lynch Vivax. He flips DT, so we lynch Jester tomorrow and have 1 mafia down. 2) We kill Vivax, he doesnt flip DT. 1 mafia down. 3) We lynch Jester, hes Mafia. Mafia compatriats kills Vivax tonight. 1 mafia down. 4) We lynch Jester, hes Mafia. Mafia targets someone else. 1 Mafia down, mild suspicion on Vivax still, at least 1 more night of "investigations". 5) We lynch Jester, hes Mafia. Doc save on Vivax. 1 mafia down, and another night of confirmed investigations. 6) We lynch Jester, hes NOT Mafia. We lynch Vivax tomorrow. It's pretty easy to see that 4 is our BEST CASE SCENARIO. I do agree with you. ##Vote JingleHell | ||
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On June 30 2012 07:09 NrGmonk wrote: Because of all these points, I'm leaning towards voting Vivax at the moment, but I'm not going to change my vote until the last minute possible for me to leave my options open. Just don't be late like Vivax last day if you decide to change your mind. | ||
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On June 29 2012 23:28 Esspen wrote: There isl no chance he's detective, I'm ready to bet on my kidney. Why would he be accusing all the people he accused if he could focus on the one he knew to be the scum and make a good case on him. This seems like a very sad fake roleclaim. And in the end looks like I was correct... GG Vivax, why fake roleclaim? It just made you even more suspicious... | ||
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