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where I /in'd in the usual way but now I am old my inbox un-told of the role I am going to play + Show Spoiler + hope this game starts soon I am bouncing off the walls xD | ||
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BKE: I don't want to lynch him today. To me he has been clear in saying that he wants us all to be careful in how we judge newbies. This is not the same thing as saying don't judge newbies. More, his definition of newbie is different. Apparently with 4 games played, I am not a newbie. I don't agree, but it's his opinion and he's welcome to it. He looked at my first post and casualman's vote post and did not see town intent. It doesn't matter if you agree with him, but he is following his own rules in my eyes. Acrofales: I find it funny that you are all over Vivax for not reading the thread. If you had done a little reading yourself (see: his past games) you'd already have a pretty good idea of what Vivax is in this game. Casualman: Do not want to lynch. I agree with ET in that it's more likely he is casual town. Someone said in a post-game of one of my previous games, quoting Ver, that mafia is a game of paradoxes. The most obvious, off-the-wall, anti-town play is probably coming from a townie. I'm not prepared to totally clear him based on this, but it gives me a bad feeling about lynching him. Kurumi: Annoying, not scum. This may change, but it's the read I have now. Behind the in-character writing style is pro-town intent. Here's who I would like to lynch today mKmKmK: me being away means the case has already been made. I don't like how he thinks Kurumi is scum without providing reasons. I don't like the kleenex strength pressure he has been applying, first to NoSmurfHere, then to VE. Katina: He (she?) hasn't really been mentioned yet, but in one post, she leads off her suspicion of BKE with the fact that VE is suspicious of him so it must be legit. She parrots the case, votes, walks away, and hasn't been heard from since. | ||
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On July 01 2012 04:47 Acrofales wrote: @Solstice: you expect me to read the mafia history of 29 people? If there's something relevant in their meta in their defense, people will point it out. If there's something scummy in their meta, people will point it out. If I want to check something, I will go into people's older games, but I am not going to use meta as my main tool on people I have never played with before. Wha? Seems to me that this is exactly the situation you'd use meta for. If you don't know the player, the more information you can get, the better off you are. You think Vivax is scummy here: On July 01 2012 00:45 Acrofales wrote: Vivax... I am getting the feeling that you have not read the OP, or most of the thread. That is pretty inexcusable. Quote from the OP: And then: The fact that you want people to rehash information for you points to me to someone deliberately filling the thread with repetition and nonsense, which discourages people from reading it, which decreases their chance of finding scum. I am not going to repeat the multiple cases on BKE scattered throughout the thread. You can read the damned thread yourself, and click on BKE's filter (it is all of 1 page long) and find the offending posts in about 10 seconds flat. Your unwillingness to do so points to lazy town or noob scum. Your obstinateness is making me lean towards the latter. There have been a handful of people you have been suspicious of. Vivax' meta is particularly easy to look up because he is new. You can get a good idea of how he plays with not a lot of time spent. Is meta just not your thing? It seems weird to me that you would so willingly pass up an opportunity to add clarity to your read. It feels like you are being aggressive just for the sake of looking aggressive. | ||
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On June 30 2012 10:06 NoSmurfHere wrote: I am a Role Name. how quaint. On June 30 2012 11:28 NoSmurfHere wrote: I'm not kidding, my role PM is like "you're a Role Name.". Acrofales: Vivax has played one game as scum. Either he learned a hell of a lot from that game, or he is matching his town meta pretty damn close. The latter is a simpler explanation. More, in the game he played scum, he spent a looooot of time in the scum QT, hurting his activity in the thread. So far in this game he has been very quick on the uptake, fearless of the consequences of what he has to say. Seems pretty town to me. Katina: I've done some digging on past games. It's late and it was a lot of reading, but I didn't see anything in your town games that resembles your first post in this game. It's puzzling to me that you lead off your spiel on Broodking with the stated intent that you are sheeping VE. I know you can do better analysis than this because I've seen it. I want to know your other reads. grush57: You were extremely talkative in the game we played together. You had things to say in LV as well. I don't like your silence, it doesn't become you. On refresh I see some stuff about Mandalor. I hesitate to jump on him for the post Adam highlighted. The guy hasn't been playing mafia since the first games on TL, so his ideas on day 1 play and policy lynching are bound to be archaic. I want to see more from him before deciding. I want to kill mKmKmK or Katina today. I'm leaning more towards Katina, but I'd be ok with either. | ||
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Firstly, you wrongly interpreted what Twelve said. Him saying he is for bandwagon hatred does not mean he hates bandwagons, it means he is fine with hating someone using someone elses reasons. How you read Casualman as anything but a troll at this point is beyond me. Trolling isn't alignment indicative. Your reasoning on BM is: ....we should kill BM because he shouldn't be alive. Your portion on drwiggl3s is off as well. He does say a reason why he thinks people are scummy for not voting BKE: they are soft-defending BKE and trying to turn the attention elsewhere. You may not like his reason, but it's a reason. You also threw casualman into the spotlight, and then walked away from it for quite awhile. Talking about what casualman is doing is a colossal waste of time, because you can sum it up in one word + Show Spoiler + trolling I find it hard to believe you are acting in the town's best interest at the moment. Your fails in reading comprehension raise my eyebrows. I'm beginning to think you're scum. | ||
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I'm not sure that one post makes him more scummy than mK, but it certainly doesn't look great. Our problem if we want to switch is there are 7 votes on BKE right now. If those people aren't here to switch, it's possible he will be the guy if we get off mK. That I don't like at all. | ||
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On July 02 2012 08:37 EchelonTee wrote: You were one of the last voters ............... .......... Ahhhhhhhhhh Voting later excludes me from making opinions on how the votes fell on someone? I'm 1 vote out of 10 dude. | ||
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Anyway, I didn't realize the deadline is over an hour away. That's enough time for a switch. If we aren't lynching mK then FT isn't a bad second. I just really hope it doesn't result in a BKE lynch. | ||
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Drwiggl3s, I want to know one thing. On July 02 2012 18:19 drwiggl3s wrote: That's fine. Come up with a better vote then Mattchew, and I'd love to hear it. Anything that involves voting for a lurker, a noob, a troll, or whatever, is not one I'm interested when we can vote for someone who absolutely loves to spur confusion, and band wagoning, as well as soft defending someone I believe is scum (bkexe). If we lynch Mattchew, it will give us the most possible information that a lynch can give us. That's the point I'm making here. I want to know why you are pushing Mattchew now. You say BKE is scum. BKE had 7 votes on him at his peak on day 1. Why in the hell aren't you pushing that case, when there is such obvious support for it? ...okay I lied, more questions. What is this? On July 02 2012 17:47 drwiggl3s wrote: If you want the most information out of a lynch. Then when the sun rises tomorrow - we kill Mattchew. If he's scum, everyone on that list is town. And we have 5 (6th person would have been foxtrott) people who can be labelled confirm town for the rest of the game. On July 02 2012 18:15 drwiggl3s wrote: Whether or not Mattchew is scum is up for interpretation. But one thing that isn't, is that if we lynch him, and he turns as scum, then that will net us the most information. More then any other lynch that could be made right now. On July 02 2012 18:20 drwiggl3s wrote: I believe Mattchew is scum. I thought that was clear from my earlier posts. @ Acrofales, I have no clue how you can say ET Is making sense here. All he's doing is trying to shut down our suspicions, and here you are trying to branch onto a completely different topic. Yea no it's not clear. I frankly have no idea if you think he's scum or if you want to lynch for information. If we trust your last line, that means you have 2 scum reads right now (Mattchew and BKE). Information from the flip shouldn't even be a factor. You push your scum reads based on their scummyness, period. You are not doing this. Why? | ||
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