The game starts in ~8 hours right? (02:00cet?)
And i understand it correct that the lynch system is majority based? i.e. if the votecount is 3-3-2-1 on day1 there would be no lynch?

paschl

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April 30 2012 23:25 GMT

#76

God my fingers were tingling.
Im a townie <3

Since nothing has been posted yet a few words about me.
Ive played a few games on a different forum, the rules are a bit different there but the game should stay the same.
Im not a total scrub anymore, i think most of the time i know what im doing.

paschl

Germany666 Posts

April 30 2012 23:29 GMT

#77

Just for reference the playerlist:

1.) dahdum
2.) Gummy
3.) AcesRequiem
4.) Matriarch
5.) DeMorcerf
6.) FirmTofu
7.) Clawtrocity
8.) paschl
9.) Ange777

And if anyone gets here and knows something about the forum:
a) can i change the timezone? Having korean time makes no sense to me and is mindbogglingly annoying.
b) is there a way to search a single thread?
c) can you change the number of posts per page?
Ive tried to find answers in the edit profile page but couldnt really get any help.

paschl

Germany666 Posts

April 30 2012 23:35 GMT

#79

Im gonna give Gummy some townie points for the opening.
Sounds honest/happy to play and he makes a promise to keep giving notes. Once per page even.
Since i think its hard to keep this up (to be clear, i dont think its possible to get the list in once per page) i think a scum would be unlikely to make the promise in the first time.

So love is all around.

paschl

Germany666 Posts

April 30 2012 23:47 GMT

#83

I know that a 7/2 vanilla (1 detective) is fairly balanced, its the small game im used to and i might be biased in this direction.

Youre right, i doubt there is gonna ba a framer/godfather.
Both could very easily swing the small game and should create huge imbalances.
A rolecop would be too strong. It gives the scum 2 chances per night to find the detective.
Id suspect if there is a medic there should be a blocker.
But i wouldnt be surprised at all if this is a standard 7 townie/2 scum setup with one detective.

paschl

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April 30 2012 23:50 GMT

#84

On May 01 2012 08:44 Gummy wrote:

Show nested quote +

I'm going to give paschl some scum points since, as I mentioned in the preface chatter, that basically everybody should play the strategy of being useful with nonzero probability. However, to presume that I am a Vanilla Townie is the least probable given a set of Bayesian priors, since townies have an optimal mixed strategy between being helpful and laying low. At worst you are scum trying to direct my attention away from you. At best, you have poorly laid out your train of deduction and given the few number of players we have and the utter lack of information regarding the number and composition of roles, such naivete is ample reason for me to cast my vote for you. Alas, nobody else has opened their mouths yet.

Just to be clear, I am gambling on their not being a role blocker and there being a medic. I hope that by laying out notes I will be a sufficiently attractive target for the medic to save for the first 2 nights or so.

I read your pregame posts, i just disagree. Being useful isnt something that can be defined for a mafia game.
And telling townies to lay low creates an opportunity for the scum to lay low too.
Laying low, i.e. making less posts is the easiest way to hide, especially for new scum.

paschl

Germany666 Posts

April 30 2012 23:59 GMT

#89

Gummy you shouldnt do this. Nowhere did i claim vanilla townie. I might be the detective.
Youre making the job easy for the scum.
And you included the scum roles for "corresponding claims"? I hope someone signs up lol.

paschl

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May 01 2012 00:06 GMT

#94

Fwiw, i read through the forum a little and there were previous 9er newbie games.
In the setup thread it lists the following possible lineups:
" 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 5 Vanilla Townies, Sane Cop, Doctor.
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 5 Vanilla Townies, Sane Cop, Jailkeeper.
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 5 Vanilla Townies, Doctor, Jailkeeper.
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 6 Vanilla Townies, Sane Cop.
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 6 Vanilla Townies, Jailkeeper.
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 6 Vanilla Townies, Doctor."

So i highly suspect this game uses one of the same systems.

And no Gummy, you usually dont win if youre wrong.

paschl

Germany666 Posts

May 01 2012 00:09 GMT

#97

Id guess sane cop=detective. Although i agree that its weird to see setups without detective.

paschl

Germany666 Posts

May 01 2012 00:15 GMT

#100

This is gonna be fun.

paschl

Germany666 Posts

May 01 2012 10:51 GMT

#110

DeMorcerf, where in the rules does it say its a 7/2 setup?

paschl

Germany666 Posts

May 01 2012 10:54 GMT

#111

And wow, i come from a totally different school of this game.
Where i come from this claiming on day1 would be considered atrocious.

paschl

Germany666 Posts

May 01 2012 11:42 GMT

#117

On May 01 2012 20:06 Gummy wrote:
Yes. My questioning of Ange for her hesitation to roleclaim was disingenuous.

So what were your intentions?

paschl

Germany666 Posts

May 01 2012 16:15 GMT

#120

Alright i read over the few posts again.
Please let me know when im being unclear, the games here seem to have a different atmosphere to what im used to.

First off let me discuss the claiming going on.
I know this is a newbie game and people want to play as fancy as possible. But keep in mind this is a team game, think your actions through.
Everything has consequences.
Im not gonna talk about it in detail though since where i come from its a big no-no.
We shouldnt do the scums work unless its really important.

As of right now my list looks like this:

townies
Gummy - aggro early but aorn i think his intentions are good.
AcesRequiem - his posts about the claim seemed very townish for me.
DeMorcerf - especially the last paragraph in his post shows a towny line of thinking

neutral
Clawtrocity - aorn both Claw/FirmTofu are neutral to me.
FirmTofu
Ange777 - neutral, maybe slightly leaning scum but its just early tone.
Matriarch - basically nothing to go on but a slightly scumy opening

scumy
Dahdum - his first post is super vague, ill get into this next

On May 01 2012 14:04 dahdum wrote:
Hey all, great to get started. Here are my thoughts so far.

Gummy - Seems like he knows a lot of strategy, so I’d like to hear why he’s claiming vanilla town on the first day. From what I’ve read that’s strange.
If scum believes him, he increases chances of a power role dying.
If he claims anything later on, he’s a liar and liars get lynched.
He also requests a medic the first night (a waste on VT no?).

Paschl - Gives townie points quickly to Gummy and spreads the love around. Maybe just a nice guy, but seems too eager.

Agne777 - Apologizes for being bad, seems like a beginner and too defensive.

Matriarch - Claims VT and wishes for active posters (but isn’t one of them). Would like to hear her full thoughts on things.

Clawtrocity - Claiming medic right out of the gate doesn’t sound like mafia to me.

FirmTofu - The question he asks sounds like a terrible scum trying to imply medic, so I’m not sure what to think (he can't be that bad). Need more posts.

There is some sort of weirdness all over this post, i underlined some parts that sound particularly off.
He is making a lot of backhanded general sounding reads and gets out of thread right afterwards.
I smell mafioso meat!

Im used to having a slightly "fluffy" atmosphere early in games.
There is not much to talk about and even the weirdest conversations can be useful somewhere down the line.

The more scums post the more chances they have to slip up.