No, we don't. Yes, it was a joke. Yes, I derped because I mixed the game rules. I just went back and read them, forget I wrote anything about sleeper cells.

Move along now, nothing to see.

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

April 10 2012 09:16 GMT

#188

There is no wincondition that Mafia wins if they outnumber town. The way it is stated, that list is final.

+ Show Spoiler +

On April 06 2012 18:07 Forumite wrote:

- Winconditions:

Each player has one or more of the following winconditions. Wincondition (4) is always combined with at least one other wincondition.

(1) You win if there are no Scum or SKs alive at the end of the game.
(2) You win if at least one of the players named in your role-PM are alive until the end of the game.
(3) You win if you are alive at the end of the game.
(4) You do not win if a player named in your role-PM is alive at the end of the game.

If at any time there is no way you can win, then you become a broken shell of a man and lose all your abilities, any remaining secret messages and your vote, although you may still post in the game if you want to. You will also no longer receive secret messages sent to you. You are still alive until lynched or nightkilled, and still count as a living player in every other regard.

The same thing happens to anyone who goes inactive, cheats, fail to vote or otherwise qualify for modkilling (except they are not allowed to post).

So I guess Mafia has the Wincondition that at the End of the Game (which is still to be announced) some people either need to be alive or dead.

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

April 10 2012 12:06 GMT

#197

Are we informed if a person becomes a "a broken shell of a man"?

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

April 10 2012 12:23 GMT

#199

yeah, but it might take a whole night/day cycle until we find out (in case they chose to hide it for whatever reason). Seeing as townies have only one Secret PM to send, I would not want to waste it on a "broken shell of a man".

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

April 10 2012 12:34 GMT

#203

On April 10 2012 21:24 Jackal58 wrote:
Has this game started?
I mean like officially.

What makes you think it has not officially started after the Daypost?

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

April 10 2012 14:25 GMT

#212

On April 10 2012 23:10 strongandbig wrote:
I see that the role "survivor" is black in the OP, so I'm not sure what this means for this game.

It means it is a third party role. They are not town. They often win with either town or mafia, so they don't always play in towns best interest as it does not matter for them that much who wins, as long as they are still alive.

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

April 10 2012 14:29 GMT

#215

So Drazerk, why exactly have you voted layabout again? You did not even properly announce it here in the thread.

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

April 10 2012 15:10 GMT

#219

On April 10 2012 23:34 Drazerk wrote:
I said to lynch layabout

You don't really need a song and dance to know hes a good case at the moment

It would still be nice if you could enlighten us with your own thoughts, even if you think it's obvious that he is a good case.

Also, I would really like to see you dance.

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

April 10 2012 15:37 GMT

#224

I'm ok with your vote, you had a reason to vote him and explained it. I might find it a bit overeager, but at least you tried to explain your thoughts while our good friend Drazerk still avoids any explanation on why HE thinks that layabout is a good case.

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

April 10 2012 15:37 GMT

#225

EBWOP that was directed at GreYMisT

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

April 10 2012 15:41 GMT

#230

On April 10 2012 06:00 Forumite wrote:

The deadline is in 48 hours, at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Do not forget to vote!

Uh... the day ends in roughly 30 hours?

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

April 10 2012 16:13 GMT

#243

So do I understand this right that everyone who wants to lynch layabout does so only because he wrote about vigging/killing bluelightz and later claims his wincon states that bluelights needs to stay alive?

Also, Drazerk, when you cast your vote, he had not even claimed his wincon. What other lies did he tell that I am currently not aware off? And yes, I read through his filter, but I can't find them.

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

April 10 2012 17:04 GMT

#247

So, Drazerk, you voted layabout, claim it is because of his lies (plural), when in fact there is only one probable lie and it was even done after you voted? I know Hassybaby warned me to not apply logic to you, but still...

On April 11 2012 01:13 Drazerk wrote:
I just didn't like him at that point

I throw at votes like candy

Candy is sweet, but your vote is foul.

##Vote Drazerk

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

April 10 2012 22:55 GMT

#306

I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.

Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that.

On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know...

Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him.

Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games.

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

April 11 2012 07:19 GMT

#348

Le sigh

On April 06 2012 18:07 Forumite wrote:

Voting rules:

[...]
5. The player with the most votes at the deadline is lynched. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses as it were).
6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.

There is no majority needed. The guy with the most votes gets lynched, even if he only has 2 and almost everyone else has one vote. So currently layabout would get lynched.

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

April 11 2012 09:43 GMT

#353

Hey Bagmanager, where have you been?

On April 11 2012 18:12 BagManager wrote:
why are we killing layabout?

Did you actually read the thread? It has been explained pretty well why some people want layabout dead.

On April 11 2012 18:12 BagManager wrote:
I don't understand lol. I want to kill GreYMisT though. And potentially Hassybaby.

And why whould you want that? Care to elaborate before you go hardcore lurking again?

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

April 11 2012 10:11 GMT

#355

Uh what? ok, let me rephrase that:

People (mainly Drazerk and sbrubbles) have stated several times why they want layabout dead.

Note that I do not agree with them. Also note that I never meant to excuse the sheeping of others.

Also, you are aware that BagManager (who asked the question) is pretty much the biggest lurker in this game? That's why I wrote this sentence. If You or GM would have asked it, I would have answered differently, or not at all.