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Why are there so many zergs? (Mid-Masters)

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Steeze
Profile Joined August 2010
United States24 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 06:14:25
April 02 2012 06:14 GMT
#1
I haven't played since the middle of last season just because I got discouraged and bored of playing mostly TvZ matches. Last season I played about 150 games between my 2 accounts and about 2/3 of those games were against zerg. So I quit playing alot. I played a bit today on my alt account and have 24 games this season, and thought maybe the zerg numbers would dwindle but my match history as of this season is:
T-2
P-7
Z-15

I'm mid-high master and get matched against top 25+ master players and they are usually zerg. Is there something I'm missing? Why does the majority of players at this mmr play zerg? I have no problem with the game balance or anything like that, I'm just freaking tired of playing mostly zerg. QQ

Anyone else find themselves in this situation when they play?
HaXeR
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic189 Posts
April 02 2012 06:19 GMT
#2
Mid master here (700pts). I would say its coincidence. Last season I played almost only TvP, this season its balanced. Play more game and you will see.
CCupcakeDyran
Profile Joined January 2011
United States53 Posts
April 02 2012 06:20 GMT
#3
I played about 150 games so far, and 120 of the were zvzs.
I wish I knew why everyone is suddenly playing z.
TCC: Putting lings in your mineral lines since 2010.
wester25
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada63 Posts
April 02 2012 06:20 GMT
#4
cause stephano and drg
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
April 02 2012 06:21 GMT
#5
It's disgusting, out of my last 65 games 40 of them have been zvz....
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10378 Posts
April 02 2012 06:22 GMT
#6
it can also be because of your maps... if all zergs ban the same maps that are bad for them, and t and p ban the maps that are bad for them vs z, you'll end up with a lot of zvz
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
CCupcakeDyran
Profile Joined January 2011
United States53 Posts
April 02 2012 06:23 GMT
#7
On April 02 2012 15:21 KimJongChill wrote:
It's disgusting, out of my last 65 games 40 of them have been zvz....


One can only play so many of those before serious mental problems begin to develop...
TCC: Putting lings in your mineral lines since 2010.
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
April 02 2012 06:24 GMT
#8
I quit playing Zerg last season after playing 19 ZvZ in a row at high diamond. Switched to Protoss, now all I do is play PvZ high plat-low diamond.
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
riff
Profile Joined December 2010
United States113 Posts
April 02 2012 06:24 GMT
#9
On April 02 2012 15:22 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
it can also be because of your maps... if all zergs ban the same maps that are bad for them, and t and p ban the maps that are bad for them vs z, you'll end up with a lot of zvz

Not true. Map selection happens after the matching.
There is no teacher but the enemy. No one but the enemy will tell you what the enemy is going to do. No one but the enemy will ever teach you how to destroy and conquer. Only the enemy shows you where you are weak. -Mazer Rackham
drop271
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand286 Posts
April 02 2012 06:26 GMT
#10
On April 02 2012 15:24 riff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 15:22 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
it can also be because of your maps... if all zergs ban the same maps that are bad for them, and t and p ban the maps that are bad for them vs z, you'll end up with a lot of zvz

Not true. Map selection happens after the matching.


Are you sure about that? I have seen posts disagreeing, and my experience on the ladder suggests you are wrong too.

A couple of seasons ago I got sick of TvT, so I downvoted Lost Temple and Delta Quadrant and barely saw any after that
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 02 2012 06:27 GMT
#11
This sounds rather anecdotal.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Ramuh
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany238 Posts
April 02 2012 06:28 GMT
#12
The fact that you only get ZvZ does not necessarily mean theres more z than others. Your Games simply are simply not a big enough sample size to make any accurate observations on the actual situation.

While it is highly improbable that you get that many ZvZ, it is not impossible.

http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/region/all/all/all

Sc2Rank Stats seem to indicate that Z is underrepresented.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 06:31:19
April 02 2012 06:29 GMT
#13
Not a balance whine, but I think at the level at which we are playing without precise micro and timings, zerg can be pretty strong, especially for players who are purely reliant on macro. I personally know a few terrans and tosses who switched to zerg just because they just wanted to rely on pure macro and overrun their opponents with superior army count. As long as you have got your droning , injects and spore crawler timings down, zerg can be pretty easy to dominate with at masters and below.

Edit: Of course, you can cheese with toss/terran and be pretty succesful, but if you are a macro guy, then zerg is your best bet.
Envy fan since NTH.
sc2CruSha
Profile Joined August 2010
United States105 Posts
April 02 2012 06:29 GMT
#14
low master is filled with zergs..
mid master is actually a lot more spread out o_O
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latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
April 02 2012 06:30 GMT
#15
because stephano
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
April 02 2012 06:33 GMT
#16
I don't ban any maps and still get PvZ 6-7 times out of 10. This fact alone has allowed me to practice my FFE and macro play very efficiently.. ^^
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
April 02 2012 06:33 GMT
#17
Mid masters here. In the past 4 months according to SC2 ranks, I have faced 282 zergs, 247 protoss, and 190 terrans.

ZvZ feels like a chore I have to endure to get to play the other matchups.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
April 02 2012 06:34 GMT
#18
Zerg is quite fun to play for a lot of people because of the speed and maneuverability or zerglings and mutas I think. I switched to protoss and I hate how base bound I feel in PvZ. One slip up in simcity against lings and it's game over and defending against mutas can be super-frustrating as well- whereas flying around with mutas sniping stuff is fun. This is nothing to do with balance more the feel of the match ups.
Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
April 02 2012 06:35 GMT
#19
On April 02 2012 15:28 Ramuh wrote:
The fact that you only get ZvZ does not necessarily mean theres more z than others. Your Games simply are simply not a big enough sample size to make any accurate observations on the actual situation.

Depends on the sample size. Sure, a dozen games doesn't prove anything... but after 50-60 games your stats start to become statistically meaningful, and after hundreds they're likely to be pretty accurate. You don't need to sample ten thousand games to derive some accurate information.
1sz2sz3sz
Profile Joined January 2012
Andorra173 Posts
April 02 2012 06:40 GMT
#20
Its cause zerg is the easiest race to play

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