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ToastieNL
Netherlands845 Posts
Lately I have been trying a mech style to avoind needing Ghost alltogether, but I CANT for the life of me beat Zergs going Broodlord infestor. It requires me to get a lot of Vikings, than Ultraling rolls me over bigtime. Question: How do I kill Broodlord Infestor + Transitions when I'm going for a Mech build? I just don't know it anymore, and I dont want to switch races... Does anybody know when David is dealing with this strategy that he said is slightly imbalanced? Kind regards! | ||
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Psilo
United States115 Posts
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Hollis
United States505 Posts
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ToastieNL
Netherlands845 Posts
On February 17 2012 04:39 Psilo wrote: I got owned by corruptor/BL's yesterday and i could use some pointers too. (i am terran) Seems like everybody is, the only answer I have seen up to today is Snipe, but that's getting nerfed. I honestly don't see why fixing Broodlord Infestor takes so long, the only answer Terran has (both in practice and in theory) gets nerfed within a month while Broodlord Infestor is dominating the lategame in all matchups. But well. Please, I need some help. I hate losing once Zerg decides to get a hive, in my opinion that is flawed game design...  | ||
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ToastieNL
Netherlands845 Posts
On February 17 2012 04:46 Hollis wrote: Drop his expos, drop as many of them as you can, as fast as you can. Don't stop for any reason! Drop everywhere. I play a mech style atm, I don't see how dropping everywhere works, especially not vs Broodlord Infestor. Infestors are faster than Tanks it seems, so I don't have that big of a mobility advantage. Dropping with mech just doesn't work I feel like. | ||
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jupiter6
205 Posts
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Berailfor
441 Posts
EDIT: Oh yeah this is gonna get closed without a replay. (seeing as if it doesn't involve ghosts then it doesn't matter what patch it is) | ||
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benthekid
United States132 Posts
I'm thinking of going into air terran with hellion support. Basically an iechoic style but with ghosts to emp and snipe infestors. Vikings and bc's with ravens for pdd and seeker and battlecruisers for yamato. That way it will force them to continue with Corruptor broodlord or lose. If they switch to ultras just make Banshees. THe only limitation to this is the insane amount of income it would require. I personally have trouble with econ management past 3 bases so I'm sure this will help that aspect. | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
On February 17 2012 04:38 ToastieNL wrote: Hi there! Lately I have been trying a mech style to avoind needing Ghost alltogether, but I CANT for the life of me beat Zergs going Broodlord infestor. It requires me to get a lot of Vikings, than Ultraling rolls me over bigtime. Question: How do I kill Broodlord Infestor + Transitions when I'm going for a Mech build? I just don't know it anymore, and I dont want to switch races... Does anybody know when David is dealing with this strategy that he said is slightly imbalanced? Kind regards! Hi, I am a zerg. What you have to realize is that late game, the zerg army is incredibly immobile. We want one big engagement, after which pure ling ... or anything ... can kill your base. What you need to do late game when you spot the transition, is to use drop play heavily, and take out zerg expansion. A transition that includes some banshees with cloak, blue flame hellions, multiple marine / marauder drops (tech buildings), while constantly moving your mech army around threatening to attack, but not doing so, is incredibly hard to deal with. The worst thing you can do is spot the huge infestor broodlord corruptor army and think to yourself ... oh, I better retreat, and give the zerg the option to kill off your whole base right in front of your entrance. Look at it this way ... First the zerg wants to drag the game out till the late game and get his superior force. Then the terran wants to drag the game out and kill the zerg economy. Ghosts with snipe for infestors, and nukes is also nice. But your overall goal is to avoid fighting the whole zerg army right in front of your base. If zerg ignores your army, go for the base race which you should win most times. Just make sure that your army takes out his mining expansions, and your drops take out his tech buildings. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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ToastieNL
Netherlands845 Posts
Offcourse I can add mass-ghost, but I want to learn how to beat the composition without Ghost. For after the patch. On February 17 2012 04:49 jupiter6 wrote: its funny because if it wasnt for broken vortex mechanic protoss also wouldnt have an answer to bl/infestor yet blizzard doesnt seem to care how stupid strong and unfair it is I don't know, more and more am I thinking it's because about 40-45% of their playerbase plays Zerg and they want to keep them happy and give them a User was banned for this post. | ||
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TheV
Brazil107 Posts
You can still use ghosts.. | ||
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ODKStevez
Ireland1225 Posts
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ToastieNL
Netherlands845 Posts
On February 17 2012 04:51 benthekid wrote: Win rate of games past 15 minutes are going to heavily favor zerg and then the'll will realize that the patch changes that they make while high aren't worth keeping. Also that it is possible to release a patch without a huge nerf to Terran or buff to protoss. I'm thinking of going into air terran with hellion support. Basically an iechoic style but with ghosts to emp and snipe infestors. Vikings and bc's with ravens for pdd and seeker and battlecruisers for yamato. That way it will force them to continue with Corruptor broodlord or lose. If they switch to ultras just make Banshees. THe only limitation to this is the insane amount of income it would require. I personally have trouble with econ management past 3 bases so I'm sure this will help that aspect. I think Lings beat mass- air, by running by and just killing your base while they get build faster than you can kill them. | ||
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ToastieNL
Netherlands845 Posts
On February 17 2012 04:53 TheV wrote: Snipe is getting nerfed, not removed from the game. You can still use ghosts.. Snipe is becoming useless to everything but infestors. That's why it becomes useless vs Broodlord/Infestor, because of the broodlord aspect. | ||
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benthekid
United States132 Posts
On February 17 2012 04:55 ToastieNL wrote: I think Lings beat mass- air, by running by and just killing your base while they get build faster than you can kill them. Hellions are pretty good against lings. Also depot walls and sensor towers will be nessessary. | ||
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ToastieNL
Netherlands845 Posts
On February 17 2012 04:54 ODKStevez wrote: I can advise you by suggesting banshees. I always get rolled by them late game if I don't scout them. How do Banshees kill broodlords, if I may ask. That is a very expensive transition which is bad vs Lings and Broodlords... | ||
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Flowjo
United States928 Posts
On February 17 2012 04:53 TheV wrote: Snipe is getting nerfed, not removed from the game. You can still use ghosts.. When snipe can't 1 shot a Zergling... well lol you can tell how this affects late game can't you? | ||
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Tal0n
United States175 Posts
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ToastieNL
Netherlands845 Posts
On February 17 2012 05:06 Tal0n wrote: im no T but sounds to me like you should switch into barracks for lategame. ever tried that? But I'd be very far behind on upgrades, as well as not having the infrastructure. Is the only way for mech to survive lategame to not be mech anymore? That's stupid.... | ||
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