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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
January 28 2012 01:05 GMT
#30
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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 04:33 GMT
#78
Our captain has been killed by a Chaos scum suicide bomber. The Chaos have agents aboard!

I am going to get what information I have been able to gather out in the open. A more experienced officer can correct me if I've gotten something wrong:

Our original roster for this voyage only had 9 Imperials aboard. There are 12 total aboard; meaning 3 enemy agents.

Also, due to the nature of this Chaos infestation, neither side can distinguish friendlies.

I have the same position as Timeaisis. I want to hear everyone say at least one thing before we decide who to kill first... that doesn't change the fact that there are people on this ship who must be killed in the name of the emperor. As of right now we outnumber the scum, killing randomly seems like it will statistically cripple our chances.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 05:01 GMT
#84
Any Chaos scum want to turn themselves in while they can? I can't promise a quick death... but it'll be quicker than if you make us find you, I assure.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 06:41 GMT
#93
A day 1 lynch in theory has a 25% chance of killing an enemy of the emperor at random with the numbers we have. The problem a day 1 lynch proposes is who to lynch? Further, who decides who to lynch?

The alternative is not killing the first night while the Chaos scum are allowed time to get comfortable. Will they try to kill in the night? Why wouldn't they? Odds are they'll do terrible terrible damage. Even if they don't they'll have time to fortify and strike twice tomorrow night. Our situation is grim no matter how you look at it, so lets talk choices while we can still make them.

The first decision we need to make is if we're going to kill on the first night, lets take this one step at a time. Please post whether you think we should lynch tonight or not and why.

I'll tell you what I think, it involves a plan and is OBVIOUSLY up for debate/criticism/modification:

We should kill the first night, and I should say who dies. Day 1 in a unique time because no one not you, me, or the Chaos scum knows who anyone else is yet. Anyone's guess is as good as random, and random buys us exactly 25% right now. Since our odds are only going to get worse from here, I say we take them. I will use a random number generator to decide which of this crew is executed.

If you agree with me say so, if you disagree I want to hear why... this will at the very least spur juicy discussion to comb,
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 06:57 GMT
#95
KILL TO CLEANSE
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 07:04 GMT
#96
I have fought these Chaos infidels on a different front. These Chaos agents will make you beg for that 25% later if you let them.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 09:55 GMT
#98
On February 02 2012 18:09 Bluelightz wrote:
Sup guys got my role PM anyway,

Here's my take on roles

1 Of the vets(Sinani/prplhz) is SCUM(Not sure about this tho if GM wants to screw with us
3/3 Chaos Followers Remain
?/1 Chaos Cultist(s)
?/1 Chaos Fatespinner(s)
?/1 Chaos Plaguebearer(s)
?/0 Chaos Hedonist(s)

9/9 Imperial Forces Remain
?/5/6 Imperial Guardsmen
?/1?Imperial Priest(s)
?/1? Imperial Psyker(s)
?/1?Imperial Stormtrooper(s)
?/1? Imperial Commissar(s)
?/1/2? Tainted By Chaos

DISREGARD ANY CLAIMS BESIDES THE TOWN ROLES ABOVE.


Also, note to everyone if we have a dt please breadcrumb your results so if you die we can find them




Never, NEVER, I repeat never NO LYNCH D1

Anyways to who I think is possibly a traitor among us,

Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 15:41 Sinensis wrote:
A day 1 lynch in theory has a 25% chance of killing an enemy of the emperor at random with the numbers we have. The problem a day 1 lynch proposes is who to lynch? Further, who decides who to lynch?

The alternative is not killing the first night while the Chaos scum are allowed time to get comfortable. Will they try to kill in the night? Why wouldn't they? Odds are they'll do terrible terrible damage. Even if they don't they'll have time to fortify and strike twice tomorrow night. Our situation is grim no matter how you look at it, so lets talk choices while we can still make them.

The first decision we need to make is if we're going to kill on the first night, lets take this one step at a time. Please post whether you think we should lynch tonight or not and why.

I'll tell you what I think, it involves a plan and is OBVIOUSLY up for debate/criticism/modification:

We should kill the first night, and I should say who dies. Day 1 in a unique time because no one not you, me, or the Chaos scum knows who anyone else is yet. Anyone's guess is as good as random, and random buys us exactly 25% right now. Since our odds are only going to get worse from here, I say we take them. I will use a random number generator to decide which of this crew is executed.

If you agree with me say so, if you disagree I want to hear why... this will at the very least spur juicy discussion to comb,


##Vote: Sinensis

No one, should decide who to lynch, people themselves should decide who to vote.

Also: Fluff "I think we should kill first night, I think we should kill first night again"



VOTING

How many mislynches till LYLO( including mafia kills, but not delay)

not including possible vig kills/dt checks/medic heals/vet hits

+ Show Spoiler +

12-3 -> 10-3
10-3 -> 8-3
8-3 -> 6-3
6-3 -> 4-3
4-3(LYLO)



Voting Strat:

~Never, never never EVER RNG Lynch(Though there is that 25% chance >.<)

~We should always lynch d1 because without the first lynch we will lack lots of information without it.

~LA-Lurkers, If we don't find a lynch candidate I'm fine with lynching a lurker




Lurkers:

Lurkers HURT TOWN, if you are lurking STOP IT.

I will not tolerate lurkers, in Mini Mafia's with not a lot of people Lurkers hurt real bad.

Lurkers, hurt town how?

~Less Information

~Less possibilities for lynching

~Possibly a vote lost to town, because most lurkers sheep.





Closing words:

I will tolerate lurkers for the first 24 hours because not all players are awake/have acces to the computer to post.




How is someone going to get lynched D1 if no one decides who gets lynched? You need half or more votes to lynch. If you have an idea about how to decide who to kill I want to hear it.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 10:27 GMT
#101
On February 02 2012 19:14 Bluelightz wrote:
Hmm, I meant that we should never be like

__ Votes him! lets vote him too!


So voting before every person in the game posts once poses what benefit to your agenda? I'm just trying to understand.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 10:58 GMT
#104
As of prplhz's post there are 4 out of 12 crew members explicitly in favor of lynching on day 1, three more and we have an official majority and will have made small progress toward a group decision toward something.

Myself
Timeaisis
Bluelightz
prplhz

Currently in favor of lynching day 1.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 17:46 GMT
#126
I expected people to get emotional about my plan and throw votes around because of it, oh well I guess that's what I get for being new and posting idea's.

All I really wanted to say was:

1. We shouldn't vote no matter what until every person has at least 1 vote in the thread
2. Odds of randomly lynching on the first night are 25%
3. Since no one knows who anyone is, any's random pick is as good as random for the first night
4. Even though to my noob brain killing the first night seems like it would be in favor of the Chaos stowaways, I don't see what choice we have honestly and think we should do it anyone

All I've tried to do is rally people around the idea that someone needs to be lynched and in order to make it happen, half or more votes needs to be for the same person. The only way I can think to get all our votes to match is if we had a "vote leader" who decided who we all vote for. If you don't like that idea, and I'm not sold on it because it does present a chance for sabotage, don't just vote for me to get lynched and say "your dead scum." This is constructive how? How about talk about a better idea for a plan or options at least?
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 17:47 GMT
#127
I meant to say post and not vote in 1
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 18:15 GMT
#132
I haven't decided who I think is scum yet. I keep advocating dumb voting systems because I don't see any other ideas and I am trying to do what I can.

The people throwing around "vote" "unvote" like this is facebook would be my first guess. prplhz and Bluelightz at the moment I'm suspicious of.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 19:51 GMT
#136
FoS: Sentinel
FoS: prplhz
FoS: Bluelightz

For throwing their votes around before the rest of anyone even had a chance to say something. prplhz's posting is cryptic/suspicious in general in my opinion. Sentinel for a bandwagon vote. Bluelightz because he's extremely indecisive with his vote so far, though it could be he's just indecisive, being indecisive with your vote isn't going to get us a win.

I'm curious what EchelonTee sees in Timeaisis.

Nisani201 seems to share similar suspicions as me.

TheToast's agenda seems loyal to the Emperor.

That is all for now.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 21:19 GMT
#142
I'm just going to point this out from prplhz's only big post:

like he did in III (that I was scum in, we lynched the two veterans for a flawless victory ezpz).


and then later on down the post votes sinani206, the other veteran.

Are you using the same strategy as last game prplhz? You scum this game too?

Also I noticed you changed your vote to me as soon as I was the first one to even attempt to talk organization/strategy.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 21:20 GMT
#143
Then Sentinel bandwagon voted me too. Look at mderg's post about Sentinel.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 22:19 GMT
#149
So far Sentinal, prplhz, and Bluelightz. I haven't narrowed it down to one yet but as of this moment it's them, in that order. Bluelightz could easily be innocent...Sentinal and prplhz I'm not so sure about.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 03 2012 00:48 GMT
#159
Yes I have backed off random voting because no one was for it. I said when I proposed all of my ideas that they were up for debate/criticism/modification, that I was just trying to talk strategy. Then people started voting me.

##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 03 2012 01:05 GMT
#161
... I clearly addressed and refuted his every point.


Where'd you do that?

Why did you think you'd be guillotined by now?
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 03 2012 08:14 GMT
#173
I explained why Sentinel was my primary suspicion in my earlier posts. I also said that you and prplhz were my other suspicions. You because you changed your vote 4 times earlier between me and someone else; prplhz and Sentinel were already going after me together at the time too. Now you are defending prplhz and Sentinel and ONLY them.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 03 2012 20:13 GMT
#187
Hey TheToast I wanted to tell you that at the very start of the game I didn't know all the rules of mafia yet but I am comfortable with them now. This in particular I've realized I was wrong about:

Also, due to the nature of this Chaos infestation, neither side can distinguish friendlies.


Day 1 in a unique time because no one not you, me, or the Chaos scum knows who anyone else is yet.


For some reason I thought in mafia the mafia didn't know who each other were either at the beginning...
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