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On November 19 2011 11:20 chaoser wrote:
how fitting that the man i wanted to lynch is being replaced by RoL...
Interesting that you say that. Since I question your post
On November 19 2011 13:28 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 13:23 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:On November 19 2011 13:18 Coagulation wrote:On November 19 2011 13:08 Palmar wrote:
I got hit. I would start looking at people who voted him.. Anyone wanna counter claim? if not this Sounds legit. I would also like to make a public request that day two we dont shit up the thread with trivial bullshit and egotistical fuckery. ...Counterclaim what? We don't know scum KP. I doubt in a game with 21 townies and 5 mafia, mafia would only get 1 KP though...
As someone who played in Ace's Toy Factory Mafia With 20 players, 4 mafia 1 KP, I am surprised you can't see the parallels to this game and why the mafia KP could very easily be low in the 1-2 range. We have the potential to lynch as many people as we want each day.
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On November 19 2011 14:05 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 14:03 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On November 19 2011 11:20 chaoser wrote:
how fitting that the man i wanted to lynch is being replaced by RoL... Interesting that you say that. Since I question your post On November 19 2011 13:28 chaoser wrote:On November 19 2011 13:23 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:On November 19 2011 13:18 Coagulation wrote:On November 19 2011 13:08 Palmar wrote:
I got hit. I would start looking at people who voted him.. Anyone wanna counter claim? if not this Sounds legit. I would also like to make a public request that day two we dont shit up the thread with trivial bullshit and egotistical fuckery. ...Counterclaim what? We don't know scum KP. I doubt in a game with 21 townies and 5 mafia, mafia would only get 1 KP though... As someone who played in Ace's Toy Factory Mafia With 20 players, 4 mafia 1 KP, I am surprised you can't see the parallels to this game and why the mafia KP could very easily be low in the 1-2 range. We have the potential to lynch as many people as we want each day. I'm also wondering if the mafia KP is in some way linked to the number of lynches. Might make sense with the warning against lynching too many in one day.
Well its designed to heavily reward the mafia for properly manipulating the town, while if they choose to sit back and do nothing get them murdered. It's a hit or miss system and encourages a very active mafia.
I read a little bit, and from what I read I'd be wary of Chaoser and Palmar. I will try to get reads on both of them out in the next day or so.
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On November 19 2011 13:08 Palmar wrote:
I got hit.
Sir, I do not believe you.
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Sorry to sound mildly hypocritical here. I just All'd both Chaoser and Palmar who have 14 pages combined. That is nearly 25% of all the posts in the damn game.
Please condense your shit.
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On November 21 2011 07:46 risk.nuke wrote:Chaoser has been subject to lynching for a long time, I'm starting to belive he might be town, either way I don't want to lynch him today. Imo I have better candidates for today, wbg and prphlz. I'm almost convinced RoL is town because I find it less likely a scum player would loose interest. I've been unsure on DCLXVI and Lemonwalrus but really they fall into the category as lynchable people which is mostly all you've been going after palmar and right now I'm so incredibly suspicious at you. I'm scared shitless that your role might be a godfather. These last days I've been getting very suspicious against you palmar. And It's not just what you've done I find it very interesting that you've been getting along with wbg, Most importantly none of you have questioned or brought up any of the scummy things the other have done. Imo, if one of these guys are found out to be scum we lynch them both without hesitation unless they got a fucking amazing explaination and I mean amazing and I mean the truth and I want it fast, not a couple of hours for you to cook up something in which case I will assume you've worked out a lie.
My current scumteam.Prplhz
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Zepphird I'm convinced atleast 1 of these three is scum and potentially all three, my post. this is to odd to be ignored. However that is based on if prphlz is scum. If he flip town they go back to null-read
##Vote: wherebugsgo
Palmar I'm not going to vote for him due to his getting shot claim. I think we'll find out the truth of that later.
Sorry, its not that I have lost interest, I was honestly just busy yesterday. I had a police exam then ended up at my girlfriends over night. I am about to go eat and when I get back I will contribute a bit.
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On November 21 2011 08:38 Drazerk wrote:
Possibly because town is still all over the place with the multiple lynch system -.-
Hammer prplhz and Nisani and be done with it
You guys needs to calm down with the mass lynching though, how much time is left int he day cycle?
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##Vote: Palmar
##Vote: Kenpachi
##Vote: Coagulation
These 3 are scummy as fuck based off the posts I have read from each of them.
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On November 20 2011 14:41 prplhz wrote:guys I don't think prplhz is scum, here is why... The case against me today is the following: before sinani206 was lynched I wrote in caps that I thought that people should stop voting for him. Since it was in caps, I clearly did not mean what I was saying. This means that I am scum. I disagree with this. My play so far this game has been: First I argued with Cyber_Cheese for some time about policy lynches. I don't like policy lynches, especially lurker lynches because, as I said in my posts, they are scum favored. Scum will just stop lurking if we start voting for them for lurking while people like Kenpachi will get subtly killed off by mafia. I stopped arguing with Cyber_Cheese when I realized that I'd made my point and arguing over policies is often rather pointless, it defeats the point of the policies if it appears that we don't agree on them. After that I started posting one liners in caps. There was not a single one of these one liners I didn't mean. I wrote in caps one liners because I wanted people to know my opinion but I didn't want any mafia to take me too seriously. I did a somewhat comparable thing in TMMM when I posted without punctuation and it goaded GMarshal into making a terrible case on me. What I said actually made sense, he just jumped me because he didn't like the form. Townies shouldn't do this, they should read the thread and not just say "lol caps = scum". (yes, I was lynched in TMMM day1 but that was because neither me nor my team mate was around in the last 8 hours and town decided to jump on us in the last minute when we couldn't even defend ourselves). I was the first to vote for Drazerk yesterday because I went through his filter and it was full of non committal stuff, he was voting for Sabin010 because of the mob-incident, this is not the Drazerk I know, that Drazerk is all over the place voting for everybody not just for a guy lying by accident with some poor formulations of his past experience. The Drazerk I know is a boss, not some guy hiding behind a stupid policy for his vote. My vote on Drazerk today wasn't a bandwagon, it was a continuation from yesterday when I was the first one to vote for Drazerk because I thought he was scum. I didn't think he'd done much to shed the suspicion I had on him. Now can anybody mention any single thing I've that has been scummy? I realize I might not have been overly town, but that does not make me scum by far. But I have been pushing town agenda all game, maybe not as strong as you'd like it, but you can't mention anywhere where I've actually done something scummy. Because I haven't. The least you can do if you are going to lynch me is not all bandwagon Forumite's case. Write your own case. - bumarlarge: Voted for me yesterday with a half-arsed case. Today he's just voting me.
- risk.nuke: Saying he went over my filter and now he's just voting me.
- Kibibit: Just voting me from his phone.
- hyshes: His reason to vote for me was that he plainly states that he thought I was talking shit when I wrote something in caps. It's my fault he lynched sinani206 because he thought I was talking shit! Also, apparently scum don't have time to read his filter but townies do. This logic doesn't hold.
- Drazerk: He is voting for me because I remind him of himself. What the fuck is this?
- Nisani201: Parroting Forumite.
Your entire view on lynching liars/lurkers was antitown. That being said, I skimmed all your posts and don't think you are scum, I just think you are dumb. I'd have to read more carefully and in context, but I am more inclined to think you are making dumb statements as opposed to anti town statements.
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On November 21 2011 15:14 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 15:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
##Vote: Palmar
##Vote: Kenpachi
##Vote: Coagulation
These 3 are scummy as fuck based off the posts I have read from each of them. ...I regret to inform you Kenpachi has already been lynched and flipped town watchful doctor...
We should lynch him again, I don't believe it.
I was basing that off his ever annoying day 1 townie claims.
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On November 21 2011 23:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 23:51 Forumite wrote:On November 21 2011 23:25 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2011 23:09 Forumite wrote:
Palmar, your defence of prplhz around the sinani206 lynch is that he was uncomfortable defending a player he thought was Town? That´s still Anti-Town and something most Scum would do, so how is this a defence? It isn't a defense. I didn't defend him around the sinani206 case. As I stated, the post was written as I read through prplhz's posts. If I had stopped there I probably would've voted prplhz, because the two things that are really off on him, are what he did around the sinani206 lynch, and what he did to try to discredit me. I didn't stop reading, I went through, and in the end, despite that I think he's town. I have explained what I think about him, and in great detail how I came to that conclusion. I wasn't straight up defending him, because I only decided my conclusion right at the end of that post. So basically I caught his scummyness around the Day 1 lynch, but since he´s been very carefull in his posting and has managed to convince you to overlook the earlier misstep, even though there is no way to defend what he did. Yes. Why do you care? You're probably town too, and no matter how this goes down I'm going to look bad for it. You're not going to be swayed. Do you not want discussion? You asked for my thoughts, these are my thoughts. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right.
You are scum lol. Only mafia ever make that half assumption in an attempt to draw support from a player.
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On November 22 2011 00:08 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 00:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On November 21 2011 23:59 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2011 23:51 Forumite wrote:On November 21 2011 23:25 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2011 23:09 Forumite wrote:
Palmar, your defence of prplhz around the sinani206 lynch is that he was uncomfortable defending a player he thought was Town? That´s still Anti-Town and something most Scum would do, so how is this a defence? It isn't a defense. I didn't defend him around the sinani206 case. As I stated, the post was written as I read through prplhz's posts. If I had stopped there I probably would've voted prplhz, because the two things that are really off on him, are what he did around the sinani206 lynch, and what he did to try to discredit me. I didn't stop reading, I went through, and in the end, despite that I think he's town. I have explained what I think about him, and in great detail how I came to that conclusion. I wasn't straight up defending him, because I only decided my conclusion right at the end of that post. So basically I caught his scummyness around the Day 1 lynch, but since he´s been very carefull in his posting and has managed to convince you to overlook the earlier misstep, even though there is no way to defend what he did. Yes. Why do you care? You're probably town too, and no matter how this goes down I'm going to look bad for it. You're not going to be swayed. Do you not want discussion? You asked for my thoughts, these are my thoughts. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right. You are scum lol. Only mafia ever make that half assumption in an attempt to draw support from a player. Hi RoL. You're wrong, but that's okay, you're probably scum.
Alright, I concede. I was wrong to say all but I'd put money on it that you are most probably scum.
And thanks Kitaman.
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Can someone explain why the hell we have two medic claims?
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WBG, Have you read all of his posts?
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On November 22 2011 11:02 DCLXVI wrote:
@rol
kenpachi is/was a medic, see the end of day 1 post for his full role
So if you are a medic type role, did you protect Palmar last night?
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On November 22 2011 11:09 DCLXVI wrote:
Have you read all of my posts?
Yes I have actually. I have read all the posts by several players.
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On November 22 2011 11:12 DCLXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 11:10 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On November 22 2011 11:09 DCLXVI wrote:
Have you read all of my posts? Yes I have actually. I have read all the posts by several players. then you should know that I did not protect Palmar last night
For some reason I had F5'd the thread and responded before reading the last 5 posts of yours or something to that effect. I might of read that and just not acknowledged it. I am extremely tired right now, I have been up since 5am and its currently 9pm.
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Man, we sure love killing our power roles.
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lol wow, WBG that is actually exactly how I planned on going about lynching today. Compare every vote and whoever appears on the most we lynch. I guarantee we hit red with that.
So far you have Zephirdd, Nisani, DCLXVI, Greymist, Cyber_cheese, Lanaia, Forumite on 3/4 mislynches.
The scum naturally want to use this to up their KP. I will also take back my hostility on palmar, with 3 kills during the night the chance of him absorbing a hit the previous night becomes substantially higher.
To be honest, I think the best method is to indiscriminately kill all of them right now. I think its safe to say we will hit at least 2 red.
##Vote: Lanaia
##Vote: GreYMisT
##Vote: Forumite
##Vote: Nisani201
##Vote: DCLXVI
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I think the most important thing you have to ask yourself now in deciding if you think this strategy is good is why do these 5 seem to have no problem voting so much on lynch candidates? In a majority lynch setting its obvious, you vote because you want them to die, and unless they seriously think each one of those 3 were really scum why else would they vote? Seems silly, the obvious answer is that they want them to die because the more dead townies there are the better it helps their win condition.
In a majority lynch game they HAVE to reach the number of votes to get a kill, meaning in this set up a vote list is even more powerful of an analytical tool then anything else we have. I have used votelists to catch scum in the past before and it is a very very good indicator. If you look at Arkham Asylum mafia Lucidity played a really really tight game from posting, I couldn't 100% put him as scum. He flew under really well. But as someone who made semi good intelligent posts he ALWAYS ended up on the wrong side of every lynch. When he was the only person to fuck up so bad the answer was simple, he was scum trying to save his own.
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I'd consider removing DCLXVI off the list for two reasons. First, I analyzed him and he struck me as most likely town. The seocnd being this
DCLXVI (7): Palmar, HarbingerOfDoom, wherebugsgo, Zephirdd, bumatlarge, Nisani201, Forumite
I doubt 3 potential scummy players would all stack on their own while trying to push what could of easily been a second bad lynch for the day. I remember a wagon tried starting on DCL and never took off. These 3 likely scum (Based on the above reasoning I mentioned) don't necessarily clear DCL, but I doubt they would vote him off as scum, or at least try to advance his wagon so hard. For the sake of simplicity and thoroughness, I am not against killing DCL in case they were purposely drawing lines between each other.
Also, I forgot.
##Vote: Zephirdd
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