EPTIf the game starts on Friday or Saturday, I might be slightly less active than expected due to me moving to another country but I think I'll manage.
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If the game starts on Friday or Saturday, I might be slightly less active than expected due to me moving to another country but I think I'll manage. | ||
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On September 17 2011 09:32 Radfield wrote: Posts like this(mine) should not be given consideration when you are trying to determine a players alignment. They definitely should be. | ||
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On September 17 2011 13:37 chaos13 wrote: Nope. The entire content of his post was all based on game mechanics. Game mechanics reveal zero about a player's alignment, so if you give people town cred for posting that, the whole mafia team is going to do it and pretty soon you're completely fucked. Nope. Discussions about game mechanics often reveal bits of information about people's alignment. More importantly, the reactions to these discussions provide information as well. Compared to trolling, discussing lore, speculating about game mechanics and jumping on random people, this is by far the best way to start a proper discussion. Something you seem interested in not doing... Would you say that the current theorycrafting exercise is getting us any closer to catching mafia? + Show Spoiler [Pointless theorycrafting] + As a side note, it would be rather fun if WBG is indeed Gollum and part of his role is asking for the ring in every single post he makes. And I know I just said that theorycrafting gets us nowhere near to catching mafia but I can't help myself. Assuming that Gollum is capable of stealing the ring, we can not afford to kill him, no matter how annoying he becomes. If mafia get the ring, Gollum would likely be our best chance of retrieving it back from them - and we all agree that Sauron or Saruman being in possession of the ring is a really bad situation for town. Actually, WBG already has two posts that don't mention the ring but perhaps it doesn't have to be every post but he has a quota instead? | ||
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On September 17 2011 21:12 jcarlsoniv wrote: So...you just want to pick someone random? Random lynches are dumb. Lynches need to have a basis. And while it's true that town often gets the first lynch wrong, we won't learn much of anything from lynching a random target. Most of the lynch targets we have at the moment are the typical loud-mouthed /sloppy townies that tend to get lynched on Day 1 while mafia keeps a low profile. More importantly, because mafia isn't put under any pressure whatsoever and therefore doesn't reveal any information that might be useful to us in the process. So no, I don't want to pick someone random. I said that I'd rather pick a random player out of the remaining 27 than one of these 3 because lynching them would give us absolutely nothing. I can't vote for Jackal for his ring idea, sorry. I will start reviewing the case against DrH and I didn't see anything new from WBG to change my initial poistion on him. And I would like to apologise for not being as active as I should have today. I have finally assembled my PC and will play properly from now on. And I hope that you will take into account that I mentioned that I'm moving to another country before roles were assigned. Nevertheless, in Day 2 we should pay specific attention to those who didn't post a lot on Day 1 but become more active during Night 1 to hit the 5 posts per cycle quota. | ||
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The bus on Erandorr came after there were a few attempts to get other people lynched. While the others were poor targets, I think that there was no need for mafia to push someone so hard. There was hardly any content in his posts and while this is the case with quite a few players at the moment, out of the realistic lynch targets he is the one who contributed the least. Yeah :/ I promise to do more first thing in the morning but if I don't keep it, I will ask for a replacement. | ||
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I'm starting with TranceStorm because I was already curious about him. One of the major mistakes I did in my first game of mafia was to avoid attacking people based on what they wrote about me, even if the post screams "mafia agenda". On September 19 2011 00:39 TranceStorm wrote: This post rang so many alarm bells in my head. First off, its so incredibly neutral. In the first paragraph, you state a generic statement that doesn't mean very much. And your defense of your earlier quote still doesn't make any sense, 'rather pick a random player out of the remaining 27' is still a random pick. The next paragraph is killer, you articulate why you can't vote for certain people and justify your vote for WBG with little to no justification at all. It provides nothing of your analysis of them and nothing of your thoughts of your thread. It makes me think that you really don't want to reveal your thoughts on the thread. Finally, you apologize when there is literally 0 pressure at you at all. If what you say is true, that's fine, you would simply come back and post more on day 2 and the following days and people wouldn't be too suspicious of that. Why would you apologize for something which hasn't even been picked up on? I expect far more activity from you in the coming days as you say that you will do, but for the moment I FOS xtfftc. Given that i probably can't lead a lynch on you today, I will rather vote for a more fitting candidate today and make sure that I keep an eye on you. What bothers me about this post is how big of a deal he makes out of eve3rything. "Incredibly neutral" for a player who is clearly not putting the time into the game. More of the same in the next paragraph: I said that I hadn't been able to play properly until now, yet what I posted was "killer" because I didn't provide proper analysis. And apparently I shouldn't apologise for not being active unless people are being suspicious of me... Mafia logic much? Only mafia players are happy to be left alone when lurking. Someone apologising for lurking is either a townie regretting playing like this or a mafia covering for their early play. Not apologising, however, is simply a mafia content to keep a low profile. Any townie would simply say that there is no way to read such a massive lurker, so TranceStorm trying so hard to get something out of it doesn't make much sense. And the very last bit the worst of all: I expect far more activity from you in the coming days as you say that you will do, but for the moment I FOS xtfftc. Given that i probably can't lead a lynch on you today, I will rather vote for a more fitting candidate today and make sure that I keep an eye on you. So is it a FOS or does he want me dead? And if he wants to lynch the lurker, why not stand by his read and push for it? Although there were just about 8 hours left at the time, he was yet for anyone else and so not voting for the player he believes to be mafia is dodgy. And then he jumped on the Prplhz bus, which was the most popular at the time, with this: On September 19 2011 04:12 TranceStorm wrote: What I dislike most about prplhz's vote is that he never actually justifies why he is voting for Jackal. Look at his vote post, he says: He follows up later with a defense of himself in which he says: "i'm saying i think that jack is scum and that's why i'm voting him but i'm very open to the possibility that he isn't". Very indecisive. Jackal's play has been extremely dodgy as well, but I think prplhz is the most probably scum. #Vote prplhz He was able to write four paragraphs on basically nothing, yet he has nothing of value to say when it comes to actually voting for someone? Not good at all. And then, just as easily, he switched to Erandorr while blowing out of proportion Erandorr's ninja-edit as well. Yes, Erandorr fucked up, we all saw that. But yet again, TranceStorm uses this opportunity to jump on an easy target for something that shouldn't be discussed as much instead of actually contributing. Helvetica and Chaos13 coming up next. | ||
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 Mafia games are so much easier to analyse if you don't have to actually play them. | ||
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