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Greenx
Profile Joined March 2011
69 Posts
April 21 2011 08:29 GMT
#1
So recently i have been looking to swap to toss for a bit but the one problem which i cannot get around has been forcefields

i hold f and try to make my fields but sometimes they deselect and sometimes they do not

its similar to if you would let go of f while trying to do the forcefields only im not letting go. i have tried my other keyboard and same problem

need help
TheWoodLeagueAllstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
April 21 2011 08:30 GMT
#2
forcefield micro requires practice and skill, its not brainless micro despite what many non protoss will say
Bunker rushing is the way to a mans heart <3
azzu
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany141 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 08:31:27
April 21 2011 08:30 GMT
#3
Wow that was hard to understand. You have to hold shift and press f only once.
maoiste
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany20 Posts
April 21 2011 08:36 GMT
#4
dont ff with shift its really bad to do so. you will only end up with delayed ffs and missed ones. just press your shortcut drop one field press ff shortcut again drop the field and so on.
Greenx
Profile Joined March 2011
69 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 08:38:16
April 21 2011 08:36 GMT
#5
forcefield micro does not require skill....

im masters as terran and zerg in every bracket

the issue im having is when HOLDING the F button for forcefield it for some reason stops letting me use forcefields and i end up just highlighting units in the enemy army

it is very similar to if you were to use forcefields but then let go of the F button half way through your fields and just end up highlighting an enemy unit

i hope this isnt hard to understand it seems pretty well explained...


edit- holding shift will q up forcefields so when you are moving or attacking they shield AFTER they hit that spot which they never will in a fight since u a move past an army

also hitting f then a shield is also bad...

i need some help from some top level toss who might have insight to this problem

i thought it was a keyboard issue since im not using a mechanical keyboard but i would like a solution that does not involve getting a mech keyboard
TrANCE,
Profile Joined December 2010
301 Posts
April 21 2011 08:45 GMT
#6
Masters with Terran and Zerg in every bracket and you can't figure it out for yourself oviously it does take skill then...

and is it similar or is it that problem your either not pressing f fast enough or theirs something wrong with your keyboard and for your info only people that can't micro for shit use the none shift method try positioning your army whilst simultaneously playing the piano with your keyboard for the best FF possible then come here and tell us it requires no skill
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
April 21 2011 08:46 GMT
#7
On April 21 2011 17:36 Greenx wrote:
forcefield micro does not require skill....

im masters as terran and zerg in every bracket

the issue im having is when HOLDING the F button for forcefield it for some reason stops letting me use forcefields and i end up just highlighting units in the enemy army

it is very similar to if you were to use forcefields but then let go of the F button half way through your fields and just end up highlighting an enemy unit

i hope this isnt hard to understand it seems pretty well explained...



Herp derp, I just switched to Protoss, and I deem that forcefield micro does not require skill, herpity derp.

Its easy to see the difference in forcefields between a high level player like White-Ra and a Code-S player like MC. Just watch the difference in their forcefields and come back and tell me that forcefields do not require skill and understanding the terrain + the nature of your own composition and your enemy's composition.

/Ontopic : Just speculating here, but perhaps your keyboard repeat rate is so low that you end up clicking in between repeats. (Or maybe your repeat delay is too high). This is just speculation. I cant see any other reason why you cant hold down F to spam forcefields.
Envy fan since NTH.
Minigun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
619 Posts
April 21 2011 08:46 GMT
#8
On April 21 2011 17:36 Greenx wrote:
forcefield micro does not require skill....



...what




Anyways, you aren't supposed to hold f, you are supposed to press it.
“Quiet people have the loudest minds.” ― Stephen Hawking
Thoramas
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore152 Posts
April 21 2011 08:50 GMT
#9
Maybe your sentries ran out of energy without you knowing, which would cause you to select whatever you left click on instead of casting FFs.
lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
April 21 2011 08:52 GMT
#10
just spam F and click as fast as u can?
TheWoodLeagueAllstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
April 21 2011 08:52 GMT
#11
if it doesnt require skill then you dont need help clearly
Bunker rushing is the way to a mans heart <3
naggerNZ
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand708 Posts
April 21 2011 08:53 GMT
#12
You can hold F, it does work quite well. However, you will need to make sure that you aren't clicking too quickly after pressing the button, because if you start clicking before it's registered the F, it will fail. Go to "Create Custom Game" and then search for "Micro Management Tester" and create some sentries, and experiment using FFs. Best way to get a feel for what works and what doesn't.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
April 21 2011 08:53 GMT
#13
Don't hold down F. Just hit F, click to place, hit F, click to place, etc.
Hello
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
April 21 2011 08:53 GMT
#14
ff doesnt work for people who play terran as they only have keyboards with a "t"and "a" button
Greenx
Profile Joined March 2011
69 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 08:57:26
April 21 2011 08:54 GMT
#15
its amazing how when you ask a question here there is a chance that you get a smart answer

then there is a chance that you get 100 idiotic answers as well


forcefields do not take skill to USE maybe you can argue they take skill to react with or place properly or whatever

but as far as me sitting in unit test with 10 sentrys and HOLDING f which is what your supposed to do that takes 0 skill


sometimes when i hold f i keep the forcefield icon and have no issue other times i do not


but its clear i wont get an answer from people here who dont read my topic or have insight into my problem


the only possible answer is the speed at which i lay them but i have watched protoss lay 100 fields in 2seconds so i cant imagine thats the issue
.Enigma
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 08:57:51
April 21 2011 08:55 GMT
#16
If you're having trouble with holding F down, then start pressing it once for each FF. F>Click>F>Click etc. Its still very quick with a bit of practice and is generally more accurate (I find anyway).

You also don't have to time the release as you would when holding F down, which often leads you messing up and having to Esc out.

Other problems which may be screwing you up:
-Placing the FFs too far away, leading to sentry travel-time and delaying subsequent FFs
-Running out of energy and being 'stuck' on the placement icon despite being unable to place a FF
Minigun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
619 Posts
April 21 2011 08:56 GMT
#17
On April 21 2011 17:54 Greenx wrote:
its amazing how when you ask a question here there is a chance that you get a smart answer

then there is a chance that you get 100 idiotic answers as well


forcefields do not take skill to USE maybe you can argue they take skill to react with or place properly or whatever

but as far as me sitting in unit test with 10 sentrys and HOLDING f which is what your supposed to do that takes 0 skill


sometimes when i hold f i keep the forcefield icon and have no issue other times i do not


but its clear i wont get an answer from people here who dont read my topic or have insight into my problem


Okay, since you didn't get it the first time maybe the second time is the charm

You are NOT supposed to HOLD f to forcefield.

...
“Quiet people have the loudest minds.” ― Stephen Hawking
aScaris
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany124 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 08:58:48
April 21 2011 08:56 GMT
#18
holding F results in a frequency of "pressing F" dependent on your keyboard repeat rate. it's not like the forcefield-command is active all the time, it's just activated in a rapid order.

so if you hit an enemy unit in between 2 forcefield-commands you have that unit selected, while your keyboard is still spamming "F". because F is not a viable command on enemy units your forcefieldspam will stop.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 09:00:09
April 21 2011 08:58 GMT
#19
Keyboard repeat rate isn't 100% consistant.

At least on my Laptop, when I hold down "F", there is a slight delay between my first and second Forcefield. I read up about it, apparently your keyboard repeat rate is capped at it's lowest setting. The problem being, if you click too fast it is possible to select a unit before the repeat kicks in which will botch the rest of your plans too

So my advice is not to hold F. Rapid clicks are what you will have to do. If you want to do it fast then you will need some incredible precision and clicking speed, If you watch MC play, you see see he routinely drops forcefields at amazing pace, it looks like 3 go down at the same time, but it isn't him holding and spamming "F"...it is him pressing F + clicking that fast with incredible precision.

If you think forcefield doesn't require "skill" then I don't know what to say, placing the forcefield is only one part, knowing when to use it, where to use it and how to use it separates high level Protoss players and MC. Thinking fast isn't enough, you nee the speed and accuracy to back it up otherwise your FF's look like garbage and you have to overlap
Greenx
Profile Joined March 2011
69 Posts
April 21 2011 08:58 GMT
#20
On April 21 2011 17:56 aScaris wrote:
holding F results in a frequency of "pressing F" dependent on your keyboard repeat rate. it's not like the forcefield-command is active all the time, it's just activated in a rapid order. so if you hit an enemy unit in between 2 forcefield-commands you have that unit selected, while your keyboard is still spamming "F". because F is not a viable command on enemy units your forcefieldspam will stop.



that makes sense but is my fear

inc mod to temp ban or close for getting frustrated with uneducated posting
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