forcefield deselect issue - Page 2

On April 21 2011 17:58 Greenx wrote:



that makes sense but is my fear

inc mod to temp ban or close for getting frustrated with uneducated posting

On April 21 2011 17:36 Greenx wrote:
forcefield micro does not require skill....

im masters as terran and zerg in every bracket

the issue im having is when HOLDING the F button for forcefield it for some reason stops letting me use forcefields and i end up just highlighting units in the enemy army

it is very similar to if you were to use forcefields but then let go of the F button half way through your fields and just end up highlighting an enemy unit

i hope this isnt hard to understand it seems pretty well explained...


edit- holding shift will q up forcefields so when you are moving or attacking they shield AFTER they hit that spot which they never will in a fight since u a move past an army

also hitting f then a shield is also bad...

i need some help from some top level toss who might have insight to this problem

i thought it was a keyboard issue since im not using a mechanical keyboard but i would like a solution that does not involve getting a mech keyboard

On April 21 2011 17:54 Greenx wrote:
its amazing how when you ask a question here there is a chance that you get a smart answer

then there is a chance that you get 100 idiotic answers as well


forcefields do not take skill to USE maybe you can argue they take skill to react with or place properly or whatever

but as far as me sitting in unit test with 10 sentrys and HOLDING f which is what your supposed to do that takes 0 skill


sometimes when i hold f i keep the forcefield icon and have no issue other times i do not


but its clear i wont get an answer from people here who dont read my topic or have insight into my problem


the only possible answer is the speed at which i lay them but i have watched protoss lay 100 fields in 2seconds so i cant imagine thats the issue

On April 21 2011 18:12 Greenx wrote:
the keyboard repeat rate change is the only viable answer

i dont care if minigun is a good player just because he does something doesnt make it right, it makes it what HE does

holding F if possible would be the BEST solution because if working properly it is faster and has less problems with losing selection

clearly i could train myself to do the f place f place but i would rather do the better option of holding F if possible. thats what this topic is about dont get pissed at me for telling you your answer is stupid because the only viable answers are

solve the problem
tell me it cant be solved
or say you dont know (but why post that)

anything else isnt needed

On April 21 2011 18:12 Dommk wrote:
Need to clear this up.

Even at the fastest repeat rate, it is still possible to click faster than the keyboard is repeating. The problem lies as so:

1. You hit "F" and Hold it down
2. You Start Clicking
3. After you use forcefield keyboard has to refresh
4. You click faster than the Keyboard can refresh and end up issuing a Select command instead

Note: No matter how fast your keyboard refresh rate is, there is very noticeable delay between your first and every repeat after the first. It is something like 0.3seconds, I can't remember, but it is super easy to click faster than it. The repeats after are pretty darn quick so you shouldn't be clicking faster unless you have some incredible finger dexterity

The only way to get around it is to "pre hold" before casting for 0.3seconds, but that is dumb as you don't want to be holding any hotkey down for that long before an engagement

EDIT:

I use to hold down "F" too, but there were too many times where I ended up selecting a unit and not being able to forcefield at all, or missing my second forcefield all together if I forcefielded the ground. It is fustrating as hell and there isn't a way around it.

So you have two options.

*Hold the forcefield hotkey for a short duration before forcefielding (not a good idea)
*Train your self to F *click* F *click* (harder, but overall the best in the long run

the question is do keyboards like logitech gaming keyboards exist that can forgo this problem

On April 21 2011 17:46 Minigun wrote:


...what




Anyways, you aren't supposed to hold f, you are supposed to press it.

On April 21 2011 17:56 Minigun wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Okay, since you didn't get it the first time maybe the second time is the charm

You are NOT supposed to HOLD f to forcefield.

...

On April 21 2011 18:46 Greenx wrote:
lol i got my answer.

be upset with my tone all you like but anyone who i "dissed" or "bm" was giving me stupid answers and i dont care about stupid people or the ones who go against NATURE AND NATURAL SELECTION AND DEFEND THEM

RAGE RAGE RAGE

On April 21 2011 18:36 Greenx wrote:
for the record since apparently there is a "record"

i can do the click forcefield

but NO pro can do f click faster then i can JUST click and thats what my ideal version of forcefields is

apparently its not possible and thats the answer i needed


also a non pro can discern from good and bad answers through basic logic if he is intelligent and skilled enough which i am and i can certainly dismiss an answer that isnt answering my question


too many times on these forums someone says something along the lines of "is zerg a good race please tell me why or why not" and you idiots say just play terran its op

that answer is what i got this entire topic

"how can holding f work"

"dont hold f click it"

im not asking to click it though im asking about holding so answer MY question