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Also my first game, but i've read the rules, reading through the XXXVII thread atm and read the rules and all. | ||
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EDIT: also, do the bodyguards protect you from being lynched aswell? And i guess that in a equal vote scenario, the major vote is deciding? | ||
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On March 23 2011 21:44 Rean wrote: Awesome. And i assume that red/black can be picked as mayor aswell? EDIT: also, do the bodyguards protect you from being lynched aswell? And i guess that in a equal vote scenario, the major vote is deciding? Another question on top of these: are bodyguards picked before or after the mayor is elected? | ||
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On March 23 2011 22:17 LSB wrote: Don't worry about balance! The game should be balanced... I think But as for your question, there are only 4 blues, so it shouldn't be an issue. Just a little hint, it is a really bad idea to claim your role. A really really bad idea Yep, the town basically elects a mayor. People will have to run for the mayorship and the players will vote who will become the mayor. In the event of a tie, the player who first reached the tying amount of votes will be granted mayorship. Before Sorry, i typed major instead of mayor: if, during the mid-game, there's a tie between who to lynch, will they both die or does the mayor's vote decide? | ||
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If there is a blue out there not aligned to Bum: CLAIM. If he isn't really blue we've found a free first scum. | ||
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On March 24 2011 18:26 bumatlarge wrote: Well I mean someone counter claiming doesn't automatically make me scum >_> they could be lying but I doubt mafia or third party has the balls. My balls should be getting cold, as they are hanging loosely from my open fly. They remain warm and filled with virility. Yeah, that's what i meant, sorry, bad wording Admittedly, it'd be stupid to claim if you're really a blue because it'd just be suicide. Not to mention it'd also be suicide to claim a blue day 1 when you're not, because then you're also fucked. | ||
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On March 25 2011 00:20 BrownBear wrote: It's POSSIBLE that bum is a 3rd-party and our blue team is retarded. Very very unlikely though. I see no reason to not vote for him at least for the time being. Although, probably not happening, but imagine this: bum is 3rd party. Blues counterclaim. another 3rd party CCs the blue's counterclaim (nah guys, bum's a blue, so am i!). Blues with another of theirs. So on and so forth. Mafia rofls. We lose pretty hard  So on until it's 4-4, we give Mayor to someone else, lynch Bum and see what he flips as. Blue? Kill the 4 counterclaiming. Black? Kill the 3 defending him. At worst we trade Bum for the ENTIRE black party. Hell of a trade if you ask me. | ||
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On March 23 2011 15:10 LSB wrote: No kills will take place night 0 Godfatheresque selections will take place night 0 Day 1 will be a mayoral election with the mayor deciding the lynch the first day. | ||
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And considering that, from what i've seen, Chaoser is way to impulsive (not sure if that's the word, i mean letting emotions cloud your clear thinking) and arrogant/proud, i don't trust him as a Mayor. Therefore, i'm going to make myself a candidate aswell. - I'm going to decide day 1 lynch by everyone getting 1 vote (obviously including myself), exactly how a normal lynch would go. - I will continue to speak my mind and do the analysis i always do (a person-by-person analysis taking into account everything said regarding/by them). - I will not give my vote to RoL blindly. I realize that i'm rather unknown on TL Mafia, and that DF mafia made me look like a fucking moron the way i let myself get played, but that will NOT happen again. | ||
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On March 25 2011 05:40 CubEdIn wrote: @ annul: if you think for one second that a team of black would give up ALL 4 members in order to out 4 blues (and possibly kill 1), and completely throw away their chances of winning, during which they give red a significant advantage, then you're out of your mind. They have different winning conditions (reds and blacks), so the only teams that would want to work together is greens and blues. I like that Tackster is being methodical about this, but I will say it right now, if there are no counter-claims, I'll be highly suspicious of anyone who keeps claiming that picking bum is a bad idea. In fact, it's such a GOOD idea I was actually going over the rules a few times to make sure there's no slip from the mod that would allow a confirmed townie to get picked as mayor. While I do admit that the blue team MIGHT be a bunch of afk-ers or too dumb to counter-claim (sorry, but it's true), you all must accept that that's a very small possibility. Did you even read his post? His worries are more Bum being red then black. He realizes that for black this'd be suicide. | ||
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On March 25 2011 05:46 CubEdIn wrote: Oh right, and it's MUCH better for reds to lose 4 people, get left with 2 against 4 blacks who are bulletproof + town, assuming they would even be able to kill the four blues who will obviously be defended by medics. You're right, it MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE FOR RED! READ. I'm not saying it's good for red either, i'm just pointing something out. Besides, if Bum is red: blue counter-claims to stop him from taking mayor, then red would just leave it at that because giving away 2 red names to the blue party AND the black party would be very dangerous. But the most important thing of all here is, IMO: No-one knows their roles yet. Red could be risking their most powerful member of all if Bum is infact red, but blue wouldn't be risking nearly as much putting Bum out there since he'd be confirmed town if no-one counterclaims, and if someone does and he ends up not getting mayor, he can get medic attention still. | ||
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On March 25 2011 06:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I'm not sure about that. That would mean 4 players, all blue, are all inactive. Like I said, I really wouldn't expect a counterclaim until day 1 at least. Let's say, there are 4 blues, and these are their roles and skills: Blue #1: 3 shot day/night vig Blue #2: Veteran Blue #3: Medic Blue #4: Mad Hatter So, barring any huge discrepancies in scum hunting ability, the Blues would be likely to send out the Veteran before the other players, but if they sent out a player to counterclaim before Day 1, there is a high likelihood they'd send out one of their players with a stronger, more useful ability. It would be reckless. Also, Darmo's unbanned now. Doesn't this go both ways though? If red/black intends to CC, they'd wait until day 1 so they don't need to risk sending out their most powerful member. | ||
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On March 25 2011 06:19 darmousseh wrote: Secondly, I am in the item game, it is very important that a townie win the item game. Also, statistically speaking it's better to choose someone from the item game since there is a higher percentage of townies. Randomly picking someone from item-game: 66% chance it hits a townie. Randomly picking someone from entire list: 66% chance you hit a town-aligned player, with it being even better to hit a blue then a green. | ||
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On March 25 2011 07:59 annul wrote: are you retarded? the ONLY WAY we win the item game is to use a DAY kill (mayor kill or normal lynch) on the black player in item game (assuming no nonstandard abilities). therefore, of course i am going to try to find the black player in item game if i am elected mayor. and how do we know that with you we're not voting said black player to be our mayor? that'd be awful now wouldn't it? | ||
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On March 25 2011 08:08 annul wrote: nominating the black player in item game doesn't LOSE us as much as we would GAIN by nominating a green in item game, if that makes sense. black already has nighttime immunity, which is what we are trying to get to green by nominating a green in item game. the bad situation would be to nominate the red in item game, actually. but since i am green and not red nor black, there isn't this problem <3 It's a risk that i wouldn't consider to be worth it, especially if there's no counter-claim on Bum. | ||
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On March 25 2011 08:26 annul wrote: "The lack of a counter-claim DOES confirm him as blue. If things stay that way 'till the end of day one, then he is blue." imagine this scenario: 1. hatter 2. multi-shot vig 3. mass medic 4. jack would any of these 4 give themselves up in a trade 1:1 to take out ONE scum? of course not. each strong empowered player needs to use their abilities to take out MULTIPLE scum. in this game, for all intents and purposes, it's 10 scum vs 20 nonscum. that is 33% scum when standard play is 20% scum. 1:1 trades are no good here. Multi-shot vigilante can just shoot Bum upright? And what is a jack? | ||
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I mean, we don't know roles at all, maybe blue are all day vig's, maybe they're a secret chippendale's police force that can investigate's people's alignment by stripping for them at night. Nobody knows. | ||
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