As I was sleeping I was giving this a real thought. What discredits eSports in relation to physical sports?
Similarities: a) You train about the same amount of time in both (lets assume both players in eSports and IRL Sports are pros). b) There are teams c) There are tournaments d) There are salaries e) There is a fanbase f) There are live broadcasts
Why are people so quick to discredit eSports, such as parents? People make the exact same sacrifices for both. If my buddy is in a triple A hockey team, his school will suffer because of his dedicated to that game. If someone is in code a/s in starcraft, their school will suffer too. It's identical, except that starcraft requires no physical activity (okay fine APM counts but thats it). So why are people so quick to discredit it? Why don't parents and teacher alike invest as much time into starcraft as well as real sports?
Was just thinking because anytime I mention to my parents anything remotely related to starcraft and gaming they frown. But if I mention I'm going to soccer practice it's okay. Really, what's the difference?
EDIT: Made this thread because my parents don't take my gaming seriously. Dad was on the phone with my grandmother and was talking about what I do in my spare time and he literally described it as "he builds dingy little robots online for the majority of his time, and when he doesn't he sleeps. IM NOT EVEN TERRAN." I fucking lost it.
I think you're right that aren't really THAT many differences, (which is why they are both classified as 'sports'), but playing starcraft competitively is quite risky (or seems so for people who don't know of the starcraft scene) since no-one really knows if starcraft will get popular in the rest of the world.
Lack of knowledge. People that are of the older generation grew up with sports, so they are more legitimized in their minds. We grew up with video games, so we can see the value of them being played competitively. Chess players are actually not all that legitimized, but it's been around for a long time. Poker professionally was only recently legitimized in the grand scheme of things, billiards as well. It isn't just esports, there are plenty of "sports" that are illegitimized everyday. Compare the legitimacy of the two football leagues for instance.
On December 15 2010 04:52 Rabbet wrote: One builds character, the other builds a basement lurking loser who can waste away their youths and go into adulthood filled with regrets.
EDIT: although it is important to note sports are limited at around 2 hours at a time maximum before your body naturally makes you stop, while esports you can play a lot, and is generally less healthy obviously since its not exercise.
On December 15 2010 04:52 Rabbet wrote: One builds character, the other builds a basement lurking loser who can waste away their youths and go into adulthood filled with regrets.
omg your so cool
get lost
Well if he was intending to personify how "parents" and "adults" see it, than he nailed it on the head.
Was just thinking because anytime I mention to my parents anything remotely related to starcraft and gaming they frown. But if I mention I'm going to soccer practice it's okay. Really, what's the difference?
1) Gaming in your parents generation was looked upon differently, people of different generations generally always disagree with how they spend their time. Do you agree what your parents like to do to entertain themselves?
2) You are sitting on your ass, to your parents, thats all it looks like your doing. They aren't studying what is happening on the screen , or watching how much effort you put it.
3)
e) There is a fanbase
yes, but a laughable one compared to that of "real" sports.
Most mainstream sports are team-based games where people grow up knowing them and knowing the physical work that goes into them. People relate those activities as being "healthy" and good for the development of children.
It just has to do with our culture and the tradition of those games. They have been around for generations and have been a part of our everyday lives for generations. Parents don't know what Starcraft is. Teachers don't know what starcraft is. It's just another video game to them and they just aren't going to take the time to learn about it.
At least with mainstream sports you can play them and get scholarships or they can at least help you get into college just for being an "extra-curricular activity".
Was just thinking because anytime I mention to my parents anything remotely related to starcraft and gaming they frown. But if I mention I'm going to soccer practice it's okay. Really, what's the difference?
In football I can bet without the bookmakers having an absurd overlay, in Starcraft I can't and need to book p2p
On December 15 2010 04:52 Rabbet wrote: One builds character, the other builds a basement lurking loser who can waste away their youths and go into adulthood filled with regrets.
You're so going to get banned for that.
But on topic. The main (and obvious) reason society looks down on eSports is the stereotype and idea that playing video games is childish and will get you nowhere. You'll probably see as the current generation gets older that notion start to decline. There aren't really too many differences between the two though, just one is physical and the other is mental (could be argued otherwise, but it's either reaction time or mental).
On December 15 2010 04:53 Aberu wrote: Lack of knowledge. People that are of the older generation grew up with sports, so they are more legitimized in their minds. We grew up with video games, so we can see the value of them being played competitively. Chess players are actually not all that legitimized, but it's been around for a long time. Poker professionally was only recently legitimized in the grand scheme of things, billiards as well. It isn't just esports, there are plenty of "sports" that are illegitimized everyday. Compare the legitimacy of the two football leagues for instance.
That's what I'm thinking. I think it's because they see no sacrifices being actively made (i.e., your body) but it really takes a toll on your mental stress. They think just because it's on a screen it's automatically fun and fucking around.
parents number one concern would be health. they'd rather have you run around for 6 hours than to sit down for 6 hours.
other than that, its just naiveness. i'm sure 90% of pro-gamer's parents opposed at first, until they became aware of the community and passion of the people involved in it.
On December 15 2010 04:57 jinorazi wrote: parents number one concern would be health. they'd rather have you run around for 6 hours than to sit down for 6 hours.
other than that, its just naiveness. i'm sure 90% of pro-gamer's parents opposed at first, until they became aware of the community and passion of the people involved in it.
Assuming they got pro. There are probably so many people that spent so many hours on the game and got nowhere with it. But wouldn't that be comparable to wasting time in houseleague too? I played houseleague for, 8 years, just because I found it fun and leisure-like.
On December 15 2010 04:52 Rabbet wrote: One builds character, the other builds a basement lurking loser who can waste away their youths and go into adulthood filled with regrets.
omg your so cool
get lost
Well if he was intending to personify how "parents" and "adults" see it, than he nailed it on the head.
then he should clarify if that's what he means, his post right is just a troll post for now
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