From what I can count, he created 9 worms in the video above, using two networks. Double network is so worth it, not only because you can spawn two worms at seperate locations, but also because you can spawn them next to eachother and unload units twice as fast.

Great video and excellent nydus play

lololol

5198 Posts

June 06 2010 20:29 GMT

#10

On June 07 2010 03:26 Beakerbite wrote:
That was an insane network. Props to the zerg for remembering where all the connections land.

It doesn't work like in BW. Units load up like in a transport and can be unloaded at any exit, there's no need to remember any connections.

AceMgy

United States26 Posts

June 06 2010 20:51 GMT

#11

Non-zerg player here. I'm just wondering how expensive all those worms would be. It seems to me that'd cut into your army size quite a bit.

Edit: Just looked it up, for 9 nydus worms and two nydus networks like in the vid that's 1100/1100. That seems really significant to me, would definitely only come late game when the zerg already has the macro advantage.

Wr3k

Canada2533 Posts

June 06 2010 20:55 GMT

#12

Honestly the toss in this video is retarded, if you leave 2 stalkers in the main they can kill the nydus before it spawns. Nydus play like this works great vs expos that are far apart though, and on desert oasis in general. Nydusing just outside of peoples expos is honestly the most effective way to do it imo, becuse if you spawn it where it is visible to them a good player will just leave a few units to kill the nydus before it spawns. You only need 10dps to kill it before units unload.

Generico

United States39 Posts

June 06 2010 21:03 GMT

#13

This could be good against a very immobile force, like say terran mech, but for a similar cost you could get a dozen mutas and get the same sort of harassment/map control. The reason you rarely see nydus worms used offensively is just because they're so easy to kill, and if they die before you get a significant force out, then you just threw away all the units that got through, plus the worm. IMO they're better used defensively, by connecting all your expansions.

Fumble

156 Posts

June 06 2010 21:12 GMT

#14

hmm.. First time i've seen it used so effectively. Although the map and positioning of expansion really maximized the advantage of the nydus worm. Also it takes like at max 2 units to kill a nydus worm as its spawning. Still good play and I still see a future in nydus worms as strategies evolve but it will never be a mainstreamed strategy.

Bob300

United States505 Posts

June 06 2010 23:44 GMT

#15

Well I love nydus' i get nydus at 4 minute mark sometimes

PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

June 06 2010 23:56 GMT

#16

Nydus are so good, less for base attacks and more for having units everywehre. putting nydus networks in random corners of the map 1. allows faster creep spread. 2. allows you to always flank an army. 3. allowsing you to attack and defend with the same force, while forcing the opponent to split up,

Half

United States2554 Posts

June 07 2010 00:00 GMT

#17

I'm wondering why more Zerg players don't abuse the Nydus network like in the following video.

Because the micro requirements are pretty crazy.

im a roc

United States745 Posts

June 07 2010 00:03 GMT

#18

That really is pretty impressive. That would be exteremly hard to handle once he got about 3 worms up and even killing one off wouldn't stop him from teleporting between your main and natural. I guess the only way to stop that strategy is to snipe the first worm before the crazy network gets built up.

blyn

Canada57 Posts

June 07 2010 00:03 GMT

#19

On June 07 2010 08:44 Bob300 wrote:
Well I love nydus' i get nydus at 4 minute mark sometimes

I agree with this. My favourite way to use nydus is early-ish scenarios. T/P players who are using a fast tech build will sit too comfortably behind a wall at their ramp and not build units to deal with even a small attack.

Plus if it's early-mid game you might get lucky and find a hidden spot in their base still covered by fog.

allyourbase

United States243 Posts

June 07 2010 00:08 GMT

#20

The toss could have defended that if he had split his troops better, but that gives me some great ideas. Hiding nydus worms in random corners would make flanking so easy