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nitdkim
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0mgVitaminE
United States1278 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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-ty[r]ant
United States140 Posts
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nitdkim
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On March 31 2010 20:11 nitdkim wrote: quick, buy me a ticket to korea. Era of P>Z here we come!!! Wait, did you just flame yourself? | ||
KwarK
United States43350 Posts
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minus_human
4784 Posts
On March 31 2010 20:23 KwarK wrote: Yeah, if only Protoss had a unit that couldn't be seen without detection that could do a load of damage under swarm. That'd tip the balance. It'd be worth sacrificing 2 dts to make a darchon in order to get that kind of unit. I really love this type of humour! Is the irony due to the fact that you're British? | ||
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Antimage
Canada1293 Posts
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KwarK
United States43350 Posts
On March 31 2010 20:28 minus_human wrote: I really love this type of humour! Is the irony due to the fact that you're British? Not entirely. It's about 70/30 between British and the anger burning within. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27156 Posts
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nitdkim
1264 Posts
On March 31 2010 20:23 KwarK wrote: Yeah, if only Protoss had a unit that couldn't be seen without detection that could do a load of damage under swarm. That'd tip the balance. It'd be worth sacrificing 2 dts to make a darchon in order to get that kind of unit. well darchon rarely get focus fired so they'll probably live a bit long time and zerg wont go muta to kill off high templars in fear of maelstorm. plus the method i was thinkin of to get those lurkers in the first place would be that you would mind control 2-3 lurkers right after a fight starts and you would fight it out. if the mind controlled lurkers survive, then you would move them to your newly warping nexus. plus in lategame, you can feedback defilers too. Let's try to bring more opposition and flaws of this strategy. personally, i think it can be done. | ||
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KwarK
United States43350 Posts
Aim: Cloaked defence for holding expansions vs swarm Solution 1: 2 dt -> darchon -> mind control -> lurker -> win battle -> send lurker to expansion Solution 2: 2 dt -> send 2 dt to expansion | ||
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KwarK
United States43350 Posts
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nitdkim
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
I do wonder if mind control has a place against a Terran, since Protoss tends to ride the food cap against Terran, but it's probably still not worthwhile. Maybe on the turtliest of maps. | ||
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KwarK
United States43350 Posts
Of course, if he was behind your army he'd function much like a reaver, throwing out splash damage in support of the zealots. But given he's surrounded by zerg he'll be lucky if he even fires once. All you're doing in battle is trading 200 energy for a lurker kill. You're better off casting two maelstroms as those can really mess up the pathing of units trying to enter the battle behind them and clump units into storm bait. There is absolutely nothing good about this idea. | ||
Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
On March 31 2010 20:53 KwarK wrote: Mind controlled lurker, damage recieved from cracklings, 7, damage dealt to cracklings, 17. Hp 125. By my estimation about 4 cracklings could take him down. Cracklings have absurd attack speed and because he'd lose any ranged upgrades it'd be 3 hits to kill a single zergling. Explain to me how it survives long enough to do 3 hits. Of course, if he was behind your army he'd function much like a reaver, throwing out splash damage in support of the zealots. But given he's surrounded by zerg he'll be lucky if he even fires once. All you're doing in battle is trading 200 energy for a lurker kill. You're better off casting two maelstroms as those can really mess up the pathing of units trying to enter the battle behind them and clump units into storm bait. There is absolutely nothing good about this idea. Much respect to KwarK, he could have made several posts poking fun at the OP and this thread like some others but no he injects some logic into it. Respect. | ||
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nitdkim
1264 Posts
Kwark, I see many of your points but I'm not in anyway trying to say that I'm right or that you are wrong. Of course this is a very (very, very) flawed strategy since no one uses it but I think it would be on the similar level as Terran nuke rush. Totally useless but epic. | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
how about MC a ling and bring it to expo and deny drone how about MC 10 hydras and attempt a hydra break in his 3rd MCing a lurk is useless imo since zerg always bring ovy with his army ,then ur MCed lurk will die in an instant | ||
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