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Kim Carrier : I've been doing this show over 3 seasons and I think it's been a while since we had so much to eat like today.
Um-Jae-Kyung : So the big topic of today is that during the RO36 OSL, two of the TaekBangLeeSsang; Bisu and Jaedong has dropped out from the league. And another thing that became an issue was the Bisu was sent on a paid vacation by SKT since he dropped.
rA : A paid vacation?
Kim Carrier : Yep a paid vacation. Anyways if we compare the Bisu of 2010 to the Bisu of 2009, it's almost shocking to see how much of a difference there is between the two. At 2009 Bisu was tearing up not only individual leagues but proleague too. As of now, he looks like just another “Protoss.”
Kingdom : When Bisu transferred to SKT that was around the same time I started coaching for SKT. But even during my early coaching career Bisu's performance in proleague wasn't that good either. Whenever we would send bisu off to play he would always lose and mess-up during the games... I guess we could say his current state was somewhat similar to the state he was in 2 years ago. And when this was happening 2 years ago, Park Young Woon (Head coach of SKT) said “let's give him some time.” However the deal was even though he was on break, Bisu would have come with us to every live game and watch his teammates play. The reason for this was that if Bisu wasn't on the proleague benches, the opposing teams won't sacrifice more practice time for Bisu.
At 2008, SKT blocked the journalists from making an article about Bisu's “vacation”. But this time, Bisu's vacation article was released. When I first saw the article the first thing I thought to myself was “Wow this might be beyond repair for Bisu.”
Kim Carrier : The thing is Kingdom worked with Bisu side by side for a long time so he can make these exact judgments. But from a spectator's standpoint, we don't see Bisu's smooth and brilliant plays anymore. If we watch his recent games and his older games, everything he does now is looks so predictable and bland. Not to mention Bisu's greatest strength; his ability to Multi-task seems to have faded away into the darkness. His plays are too rough and... I guess blocky.
Kingdom : Bisu started playing incredibly standard and predictable around an year ago if I recall correctly.
As the coach for both Best and Bisu if I compare the two together, Bisu was not that good at making Build Orders at all. In fact, Best was a much better at making new strategies and build orders for his games. Best was very good at making transitioning build orders and new and exciting build orders to throw off his opponents. But on the other hand Bisu had a really hard time changing his strategies and trying out new things. What Bisu was good at doing was copying and modifying builds Stork and Kal used previously to win games and making it better.
Kim Carrier : Wow actually come to think of it I think you're totally right on this one. The thing is, Stork is an absolutely brilliant build order maker. The builds and strategies he prepares for his opponents are jaw-dropping. But when we look at Bisu we don't see any of that. Bisu's greatest strength always was and always will be his unparallelled ability to multitask.
Kingdom : I agree!
Kim Carrier : If we look at Bisu's prime so to speak, it was the time when a player with great multitasking ability could do incredibly well. However if we look at our current era of starcraft, multitasking will only get you so far. And now Bisu's multitasking turned into a 'standard' in starcraft.
Kingdom : I agree. If we look back Bisu's games almost every build he used was “the safest and the best.” Many people ask “How can someone be so good when they only play standard”. Bisu practices for a very long time. For a while, he defined the phrase “Sleep and Practice” in the SKT house. And to preserve time so he could practice more, he started reviewing over his strategies during the game not outside the game. While most players review over their strategies and build orders after watching VODs or Replays, Bisu did this during his game. Because of his natural talent to multitask everything, his hand movement and screen transitioning speed was so fast. It was jaw-dropping to watch him play.
And this was why he was so good at PvZ! Because Zerg players had no idea how to catch up to Bisu. The Zerg players couldn't react as much and they couldn't figure out what was going on.
But at the same time, this was why Bisu's PvT was always lacking compared to his other two Match Ups. The thing is a Terran player could defend what they had at a small ground. However a Zerg player has to defend their bases over long long distances. Because of this, the common Zerg player didn't have the concentration and speed to defend everything. That is why a Bisu styled harass was so good; because he can attack 3 difference places at once with the Zerg player having a hard to defending even one. And that is the reason why I found Bisu's PvT lacking compared to his PvZ, because he couldn't do his style of play on terrans.
Kim Carrier : This OSL Bisu dropped his games against Go.Go. And last time, Bisu dropped because of Go.Go. And let's be totally honest, Go.Go's TvP is horrendous. Even if we exclude the data his TvP is known to be pretty bad. And when Bisu lost, it got me thinking; did Bisu get overconfident when he played against Go.Go?
Kingdom : Go.Go said it during his winner's interview that “Whenever Bisu plays against a player who is a lot worse than he is, he starts to play incredibly safe. And since there is a huge difference between us I decided to gamble with all my build orders.” So yes, I do believe Bisu tends to underestimate his opponents time to time. I mean if we look at Bisu's early proleague performance this season, he started losing to all these new guys. And if we look at all of these games, Bisu played almost too safely. New Players on the otherhand, will always play risky for they really want to win a game and they really want to make a name for themselves.
rA : You know... Go.Go's TvP is actually really really good.
Kim Carrier : ?
Um-Jae-Kyung : ?
Kingdom : ?
Kim Carrier : Are you saying this because he practiced with you for your revenge match?
Um-Jae-Kyung : No no, I mean Go.Go's TvP could have improved a lot over time. We are wrong to judge
Everyone bursts out laughing
Kingdom : To sum things up, I believe one of the core reasons for Bisu's slump comes from his ridiculously safe and predictable plays he's been doing.
Um-Jae-Kyung : So the big topic of today is that during the RO36 OSL, two of the TaekBangLeeSsang; Bisu and Jaedong has dropped out from the league. And another thing that became an issue was the Bisu was sent on a paid vacation by SKT since he dropped.
rA : A paid vacation?
Kim Carrier : Yep a paid vacation. Anyways if we compare the Bisu of 2010 to the Bisu of 2009, it's almost shocking to see how much of a difference there is between the two. At 2009 Bisu was tearing up not only individual leagues but proleague too. As of now, he looks like just another “Protoss.”
Kingdom : When Bisu transferred to SKT that was around the same time I started coaching for SKT. But even during my early coaching career Bisu's performance in proleague wasn't that good either. Whenever we would send bisu off to play he would always lose and mess-up during the games... I guess we could say his current state was somewhat similar to the state he was in 2 years ago. And when this was happening 2 years ago, Park Young Woon (Head coach of SKT) said “let's give him some time.” However the deal was even though he was on break, Bisu would have come with us to every live game and watch his teammates play. The reason for this was that if Bisu wasn't on the proleague benches, the opposing teams won't sacrifice more practice time for Bisu.
At 2008, SKT blocked the journalists from making an article about Bisu's “vacation”. But this time, Bisu's vacation article was released. When I first saw the article the first thing I thought to myself was “Wow this might be beyond repair for Bisu.”
Kim Carrier : The thing is Kingdom worked with Bisu side by side for a long time so he can make these exact judgments. But from a spectator's standpoint, we don't see Bisu's smooth and brilliant plays anymore. If we watch his recent games and his older games, everything he does now is looks so predictable and bland. Not to mention Bisu's greatest strength; his ability to Multi-task seems to have faded away into the darkness. His plays are too rough and... I guess blocky.
Kingdom : Bisu started playing incredibly standard and predictable around an year ago if I recall correctly.
As the coach for both Best and Bisu if I compare the two together, Bisu was not that good at making Build Orders at all. In fact, Best was a much better at making new strategies and build orders for his games. Best was very good at making transitioning build orders and new and exciting build orders to throw off his opponents. But on the other hand Bisu had a really hard time changing his strategies and trying out new things. What Bisu was good at doing was copying and modifying builds Stork and Kal used previously to win games and making it better.
Kim Carrier : Wow actually come to think of it I think you're totally right on this one. The thing is, Stork is an absolutely brilliant build order maker. The builds and strategies he prepares for his opponents are jaw-dropping. But when we look at Bisu we don't see any of that. Bisu's greatest strength always was and always will be his unparallelled ability to multitask.
Kingdom : I agree!
Kim Carrier : If we look at Bisu's prime so to speak, it was the time when a player with great multitasking ability could do incredibly well. However if we look at our current era of starcraft, multitasking will only get you so far. And now Bisu's multitasking turned into a 'standard' in starcraft.
Kingdom : I agree. If we look back Bisu's games almost every build he used was “the safest and the best.” Many people ask “How can someone be so good when they only play standard”. Bisu practices for a very long time. For a while, he defined the phrase “Sleep and Practice” in the SKT house. And to preserve time so he could practice more, he started reviewing over his strategies during the game not outside the game. While most players review over their strategies and build orders after watching VODs or Replays, Bisu did this during his game. Because of his natural talent to multitask everything, his hand movement and screen transitioning speed was so fast. It was jaw-dropping to watch him play.
And this was why he was so good at PvZ! Because Zerg players had no idea how to catch up to Bisu. The Zerg players couldn't react as much and they couldn't figure out what was going on.
But at the same time, this was why Bisu's PvT was always lacking compared to his other two Match Ups. The thing is a Terran player could defend what they had at a small ground. However a Zerg player has to defend their bases over long long distances. Because of this, the common Zerg player didn't have the concentration and speed to defend everything. That is why a Bisu styled harass was so good; because he can attack 3 difference places at once with the Zerg player having a hard to defending even one. And that is the reason why I found Bisu's PvT lacking compared to his PvZ, because he couldn't do his style of play on terrans.
Kim Carrier : This OSL Bisu dropped his games against Go.Go. And last time, Bisu dropped because of Go.Go. And let's be totally honest, Go.Go's TvP is horrendous. Even if we exclude the data his TvP is known to be pretty bad. And when Bisu lost, it got me thinking; did Bisu get overconfident when he played against Go.Go?
Kingdom : Go.Go said it during his winner's interview that “Whenever Bisu plays against a player who is a lot worse than he is, he starts to play incredibly safe. And since there is a huge difference between us I decided to gamble with all my build orders.” So yes, I do believe Bisu tends to underestimate his opponents time to time. I mean if we look at Bisu's early proleague performance this season, he started losing to all these new guys. And if we look at all of these games, Bisu played almost too safely. New Players on the otherhand, will always play risky for they really want to win a game and they really want to make a name for themselves.
rA : You know... Go.Go's TvP is actually really really good.
Kim Carrier : ?
Um-Jae-Kyung : ?
Kingdom : ?
Kim Carrier : Are you saying this because he practiced with you for your revenge match?
Um-Jae-Kyung : No no, I mean Go.Go's TvP could have improved a lot over time. We are wrong to judge
Everyone bursts out laughing
Kingdom : To sum things up, I believe one of the core reasons for Bisu's slump comes from his ridiculously safe and predictable plays he's been doing.
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