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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
March 28 2010 13:26 GMT
#41
On March 28 2010 21:05 gokai wrote:
The type of playstyle describe in the op kinda matches what Bisu's personality seems like on TV.

And it seems like Kingdom and Bisu don't really have a good relationship. He had nothing good to say about Bisu nor did he give any encouragement.


edit: lol, i read over it and kingdom did say he was great at multitasking and it's not the whole thing so kingdom might've sounded nicer in the other parts


On the contrary, Kingdom is the most SKT biased commentator evarrrr
Whenever bisu played and he commentated he would hype bisu up so hard it would come to a point where it was ridiculous. The same applies with rA as he would get so pumped whenever Flash wins lol.

The tone of this discussion was not 'omg bisu iz inferior', if you watch the video and understand korean (I know you guys can't I'm sorry I couldn't deliver this onto the OP it's really hard ) it was Kingdom being really worried for bisu; like a father watching his son fall apart after losing his mary jane.

And about the harsh language; cultural differences. He isn't saying this in bad blood, rather a constructive criticism type language. If I try to tone it down a little the whole thing would lose meaning
dats racist
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
March 28 2010 14:05 GMT
#42
Really hope that he can come back and be a great player again.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
LetMeShine
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
979 Posts
March 28 2010 14:10 GMT
#43
On March 28 2010 22:19 Garnet wrote:
So has Bisu ever invented anything???


No, not really. He showed how powerful sair/dt and forge expanding came be and therefore popularized it but it was really DaezanG and rA who invented them. These two had limited success at changing the metagame with these builds because rA was too inconsistent and too busy being the dreamer to actually push the idea of forge expanding forward and DaezanG lacked the mechanics to pull off sair/dt correctly.
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
March 28 2010 14:11 GMT
#44
This is making me a lil bit hyped for Bisu game.
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
March 28 2010 14:13 GMT
#45
you can go eat my legs later

you fixed the at but you removed the player before now ^^
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
March 28 2010 14:15 GMT
#46
On March 28 2010 23:13 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
you can go eat my legs later

you fixed the at but you removed the player before now ^^

Why I have no idea what you're talking about ils
and I will eat your legs
dats racist
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
March 28 2010 14:17 GMT
#47
On March 28 2010 19:16 chongu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2010 18:49 MrHoon wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
rA : You know... Go.Go's TvP is actually really really good.

Kim Carrier : ?

Um-Jae-Kyung : ?

Kingdom : ?


LOOOOOL

i lold hard
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
March 28 2010 14:23 GMT
#48
This is a really interesting discussion about Bisu... in particular, I hope that Stork continues to play strongly, to show the starcraft world that you don't need to practice 12 hours a day on mechanics to be competitive, but come up with good strategies. This is only based on Stork's recent interviews where he reads manga/plays wow
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
March 28 2010 14:29 GMT
#49
Thanks for the translation!
Looking for ArcticCerebrate formerly from @USEast
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
March 28 2010 14:33 GMT
#50
Thanks for the translations Mr Hoon. I sincerely hope the Protoss multitasking god comes back reinvigorated and ready to kick some ass.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
March 28 2010 14:39 GMT
#51
I'm really surprised Kingdom says BeSt is better at making new builds. BeSt does like 1 build per year, and is generally more predicable than Bisu.
Anchen
Profile Joined January 2010
United States31 Posts
March 28 2010 15:00 GMT
#52
BeSt could be really brilliant in practice but another safe player in live games, as he is also a very mechanical player. Another option is that while it seems like BeSt does 1 build per year he might have a lot of subtle build order changes and improvements. Maybe he is the one who adapts and figures out the other gamers build orders and makes refinements and Bisu just uses what BeSt gives him. Just speculation of course, which I guess unless someone actually asks Kingdom that's about all we can do in regards to that comment.
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
March 28 2010 15:13 GMT
#53
Thank a you... bisu in my <3. *sadface*
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 28 2010 15:22 GMT
#54
All I want to see is Stork's brilliant BO coupled with Bisu's multitasking, now that's going to be the ultimate Protoss player.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
March 28 2010 15:28 GMT
#55
[image loading]
Bitches don't know 'bout my TvP.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
March 28 2010 15:34 GMT
#56
dont underestimate me
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=183&part=games&league=standard&vs=P
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
March 28 2010 15:58 GMT
#57
On March 28 2010 23:23 Confuse wrote:
This is a really interesting discussion about Bisu... in particular, I hope that Stork continues to play strongly, to show the starcraft world that you don't need to practice 12 hours a day on mechanics to be competitive, but come up with good strategies. This is only based on Stork's recent interviews where he reads manga/plays wow


Stork's recent interviews are saying he practices all night...
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
member1987
Profile Joined February 2010
141 Posts
March 28 2010 15:59 GMT
#58
nice, gg!
Fulgrim
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States560 Posts
March 28 2010 16:05 GMT
#59
Hahaha, go.go........
One does not simply walk into mordor
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
March 28 2010 16:10 GMT
#60
Hahaha my view of nal_ra is changing RADICALLY lately.
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