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deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
March 28 2010 11:29 GMT
#21
Nice translation. Good insight on Bisu, and Go.go comments are funny.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
March 28 2010 11:32 GMT
#22
thanks for translating, bisu will always have his multitask he just needs to mix it up. maybe ask best for some builds
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
March 28 2010 11:36 GMT
#23
Kingdom leaving must have really really hurt Bisu a lot.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
March 28 2010 11:45 GMT
#24
Cheers for the translation Mr Hoon. Everyone who translates for us is so golden. Such a sweet service for the rest of the community. You're a champ.

Such an interesting larger issue to think about. Mechanics versus creativity, multitasking vs mind games, assimilation vs ingenuity. It's interesting to see this sort of analysis about one player's strengths and weaknesses. Makes you wonder about other player's relative skills and then think about your own and what attracts you to certain play-styles and even practice styles.

Anyway gave me alot to think about. Thanks mate
#1 Great fan ~ // Khan // FlaSh // JangBi // EffOrt //
Balfazar
Profile Joined November 2008
Australia483 Posts
March 28 2010 11:50 GMT
#25
I have always noticed that when Stork wins with a nice new build I see Bisu using it soon after, glad to see it confirmed by the commentators.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
March 28 2010 11:55 GMT
#26
Haha the end is hilarious why there is so much go.go hate.... poor go.go noone likes him
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
March 28 2010 11:58 GMT
#27
On March 28 2010 20:50 Balfazar wrote:
I have always noticed that when Stork wins with a nice new build I see Bisu using it soon after, glad to see it confirmed by the commentators.
it maybe true that bisu copies others, but how many have copied his bisu build ^^
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
Pakje
Profile Joined March 2009
Belgium288 Posts
March 28 2010 12:02 GMT
#28
On March 28 2010 20:58 We Are Here wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2010 20:50 Balfazar wrote:
I have Always noticed that when Stork wins with a Nice new build I see Bisu using it soon after, glad to see it confirmed by the commentators.
it maybe True that Bisu copies others, but how many have copied his Bisu build ^^


Actually (P)DaezanG created it.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Bisu_Build
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
March 28 2010 12:02 GMT
#29
lets see if bisu can come back. nice translation and thanks for the work!
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
gokai
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States812 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 12:09:53
March 28 2010 12:05 GMT
#30
The type of playstyle describe in the op kinda matches what Bisu's personality seems like on TV.

And it seems like Kingdom and Bisu don't really have a good relationship. He had nothing good to say about Bisu nor did he give any encouragement.


edit: lol, i read over it and kingdom did say he was great at multitasking and it's not the whole thing so kingdom might've sounded nicer in the other parts
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1711 Posts
March 28 2010 12:10 GMT
#31


tnx for the translation
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
March 28 2010 12:12 GMT
#32
The Emperor said it himself before going to the army: the reigning protoss for years to come would be Stork.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
March 28 2010 12:15 GMT
#33
Thanks for the insight into Bisu's play (and go.go's haha).
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 28 2010 12:17 GMT
#34
Thanks for the translation. C'mon Bisu!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
March 28 2010 12:28 GMT
#35
Um-Jae-Kyung : No no, I mean Go.Go's TvP could have improved a lot over time. We are wrong to judge

Everyone bursts out laughing

Haha. Poor gogo.
Marines > everything
mOojc
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia460 Posts
March 28 2010 12:29 GMT
#36
Thanks for the translation. While the go.go comment was funny, in the end Bisu DID lose to this... T_T
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
March 28 2010 12:37 GMT
#37
Nal_Ra should practice with Bisu so they both get better.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Marine/Raven Guide:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163605
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
March 28 2010 12:41 GMT
#38
very interesting insight, but it sounds like kingdom doesnt really think much of bisu´s overall ability as a player. basically he says that bisu is an inferior strategist that was only dominating for a while because he was so far ahead of almost every1 else in mechanics and multitasking; making up for his lacking strategical insight by copying the build orders of others.


a similar reasoning could be applied for jaedongs diminished dominance this season: he might not be a bad strategist, but he isnt an outstanding one either. what distinguished him from every1 else, in particular in zvz, were his impeccable mechanics. since the general mechanical skill of pretty much every progamer has increased a lot during the last 9 months, in particular among the newcomers of this season, his dominance has diminished.


maybe the time for mechanical players is over. this could also be seen as the reason why flash is the dominator at the moment: he combines the same near-perfect mechanics that seem so common these days with great strategical insight and the best gamesense ever witnessed in professional sc. maybe the great success of jaedong and bisu during the preceding season has stimulated a surge of focus on mechanics during the summer which resulted in the mechanical skill gap narrowing, while many of the lesser and/or new players havent devoted the same effort to their strategies. a typical example for this theory could be stork: with the obvious increase in mechanical skill, he shut down the biggest flaw of his game and once again put himself into the position to make good use of his brilliant build orders.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
March 28 2010 12:43 GMT
#39
On March 28 2010 21:37 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Nal_Ra should practice with Bisu so they both get better.


that would actually be really awesome, they could learn a lot from each other's strengths
manner
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9031 Posts
March 28 2010 13:19 GMT
#40
So has Bisu ever invented anything???
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