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BloodyC0bblers's Mafia XVI

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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 19 2010 01:33 GMT
#6
Hello!
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 19 2010 23:14 GMT
#58
Can't wait for this to get started, lets gogo!
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 20 2010 08:01 GMT
#101
On January 20 2010 12:52 no_re wrote:
Well hi everyone, my first mafia game, not entirely sure how it works so bare with me if Im doing it wrong, however relating to the "clues" posted everyday here is what I got from the above entry.


My first thought when dissecting the post was this rather obvious quote:
Show nested quote +
With a quick attack, the Sheriff Ace collapsed to the ground.


A quick attack? Well with a player named QuickStriker in the game this looks like a kind of obvious clue. Also he was the first to respond to the first Sheriff Candidacy anouncement of Fulgrim, drawing attention to himself being "amused" by Fulgrim's "I'm not a mafia" comment. This intruiged me.


I think that analysis overall was extremely good, from reading up on some earlier Mafia games it seems that the host often likes the come up with elaborate or entertaining deaths. This in itself makes the " With a quick attack " stand out far more in my eyes, and somewhat exonerates the other as possibly just being a whimsical choice by the host.

In all honesty this by itself is enough to make me fairly suspicious and Quickstriker I am still more suspicious when I see some of what you have typed. In particular your reaction to no_re's non-serious accusation where you are essentially saying we must "hold off any action untill the DT comes forward and leads us through the valley of death and into the promised land" - I paraphrased,

This however, as far as I can tell is an exceptionally bad strategy, the point of electing a mayor or sherrif is someone who seems active, discerning and importantly decisive, and your suggestion of sit and wait reeks to me on manipulation at an early stage.
p.s. am i doin it rite?[/QUOTE]
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 20 2010 08:03 GMT
#102
Won't edit but i was initially going to quote all of no_re's post and the "p.s. am i doin it rite? [/QUOTE] managed to slip its way into my post ^^
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 20 2010 08:15 GMT
#103
Non related to the above, but just a thought. I have been thinking about a working hypothesis that the people more likely to have the arguably more interesting roles on the Townie side, as well as more likely to be Mafia might be people with high post counts and who are well known in the community (and are not well known for being idiots)
Was thinking this as I would presume a game can be doomed from the start if there is an incompetant Mafia team and so to try to avoid this roles could be influenced, however small, in this way.

This is just complete conjecture and a thought that i decided to share, but if Bloody could explain if the roles are allotted on a completely random basis or if there is some choice in the matter I would be interested to know
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 20 2010 08:19 GMT
#104
Also I put myself forward to run for election. Considered not doing as I have a survival instinct and don't want to have too much attention drawn to myself at an early stage but in all honesty I think i would be a good choice for either of the roles.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 20 2010 13:02 GMT
#111
Sure i am aware of that xD, but im also concious that it is certainly going to be an ambition of the mafia in general to have their members run in the election race and so anyone who puts themselves forward is simply by that action more suspicious that one who doesn't. (this is arguable but certainly not an illogical point to make).

So thats what i meant by survival instinct as the town could be more suspicious of me and the mafia, knowing i am not one of them, could ifind it easier to persuade others to vote lynch,
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 20 2010 13:31 GMT
#112
Updated profile as it was quite barren and so kinda difficult in the clue department, hopefully all the others mentioned as having no info to go on for clues will do the same.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 20 2010 13:38 GMT
#114
My profile had literally nothing in it, a mod can confirm i thought its something i should have done. If I really have committed a most awaful of crimes then hopefully bloody will tell me and I will edit it back to blank with sincere apologies
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 20 2010 13:38 GMT
#115
i rlly want to edit "awaful" its making me blush with shame
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 20 2010 14:24 GMT
#118
Also to carry on the spirit of openess, assuming a player cannot vote for himself for candidate, I will be voting for Fulgrim (as of now, more people could come forward and I might change my mind) I liked his post and also Quickstriker immediately questionined him str8 after the post. The reason this has influence on my descision is because I will say plainly I am exceptionally suspicious of Quickstriker at this moment and so going with a hypothesis that Quickstriker is Mafia, it makes Fulgrim very unlikely to be mafia as they would hardly criticise their own

This is simply a hypothesis, I am not claiming quickstriker to be mafia I am however very suspicious of him at the moment and look forward to him posting more.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 20 2010 15:26 GMT
#125
Dzoko your reasoning is fine and tbh it does make certain sense going with a random selection purely to avoid being duped and led into a situation where mafia are in important roles. My main quibble with it is that this game is meant to be a strategical analysis kind of game and it doesn't really seem in the spirit of things to emphasise randomness in selecting the people who get voted in. That said i wouldn't really be against it, just personally I would be more inclined to go with reasoning and vote for someone i feel would both suit the role and that i am not suspicious of.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 20 2010 17:49 GMT
#147
Quick what are you saying? It is these kinds of unclear lines of reasoning where you don't specifically lay out your argument that are suggestive of purposefully creating confusion amongst the townies.

You mention me by name, why? am i more likely to be a mafia because of that clue than any of the other people with blank profiles, Does my editing and explaining why afterwards make me more likely to be mafia?

Neither of those two assertions has any merit and i challenge you to make a clear and logical argument as to why.

That leaves me with possibilites then, you are annoyed that I have openly stated that i find you very suspicious and a possible mafia and in light of this have decided to name me as a kind of "i know you are but what am i" kind of defence. Of course you could have this reaction if you are a townie and upset about having suspicion cast on you this early because obviously no-one wants to die but for the record, with every post you make I consider you more and more red.

Also you and cresentia seem exceptionally like minded and supportive of each other and as such if one of you is red i would be inclined to believe the other one is as well.

But anyway my main point is this, I have provided clear reasons as for why I have named you as a suspicious person. Likewise please provide clear explanation for everyone to see and assess as for why you have named me, otherwise i suspect they may draw similar conclusions that i have.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 20 2010 18:12 GMT
#155
heh Sagaz interesting you raised that as I was just outside having a ciggarette thinking over the things in this thread and how there have already been claims made, suspcions cast e.t.c and was thinking it might be extremely intelligent for the mafia as a whole to simply not post much, rely on us creating so much confusion amongst ourselves that they do not need to try to provoke it or develop it.

I don't agree that we ought to lynch the person who has posted least in any way though and am also inclined to think that the mafia have not adopted this strategy of just letting the town fuck it up for themselves. Its worth considering however as it would be quite an intelligent ploy and also a kinda interesting social experiment ^^
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 20 2010 20:44 GMT
#163
Our Mafia game is so inactive compared to the other one, its a shame rlly.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 20 2010 22:46 GMT
#169
Im starting to warm to the idea someone mentioned earlier about lynching those that post least, not because i think it relates to them being mafia or would be productive in any way just out of sheer annoyance.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 21 2010 01:53 GMT
#214
My candidacy for Mayor.

I strongly believe that some of the Mafia have already given themselves away at a very early stage in this and as such know preciciely what I plan on doing were i to be elected into either of the roles. This is subject to change and reconsideration but let me be frank, I would vote to lynch, kill or incarcerate Quickstriker and or crescentia. There are others that I have suspicions about but nothing as strong as my feeling that both of these posters (Most specifically Quickstriker) are being manipulative and acting in a fashion that i would expect the Mafia to act.

I feel i am a decisive person who can evaluate people well and will do everything in my power to lead the town to what I hope to be a penetrating victory.

On a somewhat different tangent:
There has been, by some players, a great emphasis on the DT and what he "ought" to do, without giving myself away entirely I will simply say this, I am NOT the DT and i would advise whoever it is to disregard alot of the "advice" that has been given as to what he ought to do at this stage, quite frankly almost every reference to the DT from some posters so far seems like an attempt to identify and kill him off early and the "advice" given in reference to him is questionable at best.

Furthermore anyone who wishes to question anything about My posts or has any suspicions at all I will respond with openly and what I will intend to be clear and rational.

I urge people to vote me in, I think i am likely to be a target for a mafia given the nature of my posts and openess of my suspicions and so on that basis only i would enjoy the protection. I also feel strongly that some conclusions I have made so far are both logical and valid and as such am compelled to be able to act on them and being elected would make this possible.

I am also slightly drunk as i was playing HoN with a friend on skype and drinking abit so i probably ought to wait untill putting forward a post like this but what did waiting ever acheieve!

Oh as I mentioned skype if anyone is feeling psychological and thinks they would be able to vet me better by talking to me about mafia I would welcome the opportunity to voice chat about it, also i live in a cave and have no friends so it would be good to grab some


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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 21 2010 01:59 GMT
#219
As to the post above, I personally believe that the Mafia will not have planned to simply put one person forward, It would be extremely risky, and an exceptional gamble to do so. I am leaning more towards a "swamp" strategy wereby the mafia would but 3 or possibly more candidtaes forward in the hope that either way they get someone elected.

Unless you can provide a better argument as to why the Mafia would only put one person forward for election I am inclined to think they are far more likely to put many people forward to be elected.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 21 2010 02:02 GMT
#222
lol when i was typing the last post i made, Fulgrims post where he quoted quickstriker was the last one.

Kinda funny that we have so much inactivity and then suddenly an avalanche of posts xD
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 21 2010 02:05 GMT
#226
Yeah it does Johnny, at least i took it to mean that from earlier posts and so decided to steal it I quite like reading "DT" alot as they have served me quite well in PvT's for ages ^^
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