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TL Arena II

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Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 09:03:47
October 19 2009 13:21 GMT
#1
About a month ago Shauni made it out of the first edition of TeamLiquid Arena alive. This cannot happen. Today we announce TeamLiquid Arena 2. It will not be as easy. This time, the players will be better. This time, the handicaps will be harder. The gloves are off. This time, it’s War.

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Banner by keit


POLL TOPIC


Let’s get right to it. The concept is easy: One superb player faces off versus several newbies, 8 of whom he has to defeat. The catch? After every win he gets one more handicap assigned to hinder his play. We did a previous edition, in the topic of which there are more details. Read it here and read about how that event went here.

Once more, a contestant will enter the Arena and face its horrors. The event will be broadcasted live on the 23RD OF OCTOBER, 22:00 CET (13:00 PST, 16:00 EST, 05:00 KST on Saturday 24th).

Now that we have the official part out of the way, we’re very pleased to announce our contestant. He’s one of the best players from the European StarCraft scene and we’re very happy to have him. We’ll give you a hint first.
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[image loading] [image loading] ClouD
Won the national WCG 4 times in a row and will soon be going to China to represent Italy. Finished 2nd in the Spirit Tournament and is one of the finest Protoss players the foreign scene has to offer.





TeamLiquid Participation


Players – Once more, we’re calling on the lower ranks to provide us with brave Davids to take on this Goliath. We’re upping the level a bit, allowing D+ to C+ to participate. Post in this topic providing your ICC id, a link to your profile, you rank and your race. Your account will have either finished in the designated rank range or reached it as of yesterday (the day before this post) with a + Show Spoiler [minimum amount of games of] +

C+:110
C : 90
C- : 70
D+: 50

We’ll randomly select 8 people from the ones to sign up within the next 24 hours (to give everyone a chance). After that people wll be added to reserves like last time. We’re initially excluding people who played/failed to show up last time.

Handicaps – Based on our experiences last time we chucked out some handicaps and inserted some new ones. Yes, they are harsh but they’re supposed to be. We’re asking you, TL, to fill in the blanks. Don’t complain about how strong they are – come up with stronger ones! Post your thoughts and we’ll get a poll going again.
+ Show Spoiler [Handicaps] +

Upgrades: No Z Legs // No Goon Range // No Storm // No forge ups
Units/Buildings: No Zealots // No Observers // Gateway cap Max = 5 // Assim cap M=1 // No Shuttles // No (Regular) Archons.
Other: Give vision// Initial Peon Sac // Double Tech // 3x TL Submission


Maps – Maps for this issue will be: + Show Spoiler +
  • Nostalgia
  • Othello
  • Rush Hour 3
  • Neo Medusa
  • Outsider
  • Tornado
  • Moon Glaive
  • TL Pick

Again, one open spot. You know the drill: suggest maps and we’ll poll them.



That’s it for now, the sign-ups are open, the stage is (being) set – We hope you all tune in!
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
October 19 2009 13:24 GMT
#2
T_T no love for low player

Can't wait to see it
n_n
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 19 2009 13:43 GMT
#3
Nice :D ClouD is one of my favourites n_n

Don't have enough games to try participate plus I am not free to do it this weekend (already staying up until a stupid hour to host the Dutch tour anyway -.-) but I will try convince some Aussies to play - SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE SHOW THESE GUYS HOW IT'S DONE.

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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 14:03:50
October 19 2009 13:59 GMT
#4
Protoss D+ (barely) I could play. Although sign me up to be the last player, im horrible :D

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LorDo
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden485 Posts
October 19 2009 14:01 GMT
#5
Whaat. So I can't play cause I'm too bad? This is gonna backfire. C - C+ is gonna rape Cloud with enough handicaps..
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 19 2009 14:06 GMT
#6
Yeah, I don't see a C+ player losing to Cloud with some of the handicaps.

Cloud is awesome, though, so I'm sure this will be cool!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 14:36:44
October 19 2009 14:08 GMT
#7
iCCup ID: edwin.jung, ASL-kOre, SCm.kOre
Profile Link: edwin.jung ASL-kOre SCm.kOre
Rank: Max D+ / Current D
Race: Protoss

I have 50+ games overall, but I swap accounts alot. Will I still be able to play?

Map: Neo Medusa

Handicap: The opponent could ask Cloud 1 question during the game where he would have to answer truthfully, but it would only be a Yes/No question. An example of this would be something like "Are you going reavers?" or "Did you take an island expansion yet?".

EDIT: I would like to play Cloud first if possible, just want to try out my PvP skills and would like to test it out without handicaps.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 14:42:46
October 19 2009 14:10 GMT
#8
Iccup ID: Konata.Izumi
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/Konata.Izumi.html
Rank: D+/C-
Race: Terran/Zerg

put me somewhere in the middle of that list :p

Edit:

Map: Holy World
Handicaps:
  • 150 psi cap
  • 2 expansions (not including main) MAX at a time
  • No arbiters
  • No photon cannons
  • Max mouse sensitivity
  • No sound (BGM + unit sounds)
POGGERS
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
October 19 2009 14:13 GMT
#9
ah crap.. just saw it's Saturday, I wouldn't be able to paly anyway (I was going to start mass game to reach 50 )

Hope to watch VODs of this !!
n_n
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
October 19 2009 14:14 GMT
#10
On October 19 2009 23:01 LorDo wrote:
Whaat. So I can't play cause I'm too bad? This is gonna backfire. C - C+ is gonna rape Cloud with enough handicaps..

You'd think so.
Been waiting for the second episode of this, too bad i don't get a chance to redeem myself.
I'll resubmit my handicap ideas though: + Show Spoiler +
Handicap ideas:
  • Not allowed to take natural expansion.
  • Wait X seconds before starting to play.
  • You may only build probes from the Nexus you start with.
  • Link: All the buildings you build must be connected (touching one another), first pylon is built right by your first nexus and so on.
  • Time trial: If you havent killed your opponent in X minutes you loose.
  • Mass transfer: If you choose to transfer probes from one base to another, you must transfer them all.
  • Hero unit: If a specific unit dies (first combat unit, first nexus, whatever) you loose.
  • Lucky one: Shauni gets to choose which handicap he gets this time.
  • Unlucky one: LeperKahn chooses the handicap Shauni gets this time.
  • Shuffle: All handicaps are removed, and the same amount+1 new handicaps are added.
  • Your opponents plays alongside an AI. (Glitching allowed)
  • You cannot warp in buildings in your main.
  • +1: Increases the "power" of one of the handicaps you already have. Example: The maximum number of Gateways is reduced to 6 4!
  • Audio bugging: (Requires that Shauni is on vent with Leperkahn) Shauni has to answer questions, and do what he is told (unit sounds etc.)
  • Let it be: You cannot enter your opponents half of the map until you're atleast at X population.
  • Everytime you have a pair of dark/high templars you must merge them into Dark Archons/Archons.

And map vote goes to Monty Hall! (http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/163_Monty_Hall_SE)
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-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
October 19 2009 14:18 GMT
#11
Iccup ID: de_inferno
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/de_inferno.html
Rank: Max C+ / Current D (I don't know if this was asking for skill level or actual iccup rank, if it's skill level I'd say C-)
Race: Protoss

I hope the number-of-games thing doesn't have to be all from this season and after resets
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pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
October 19 2009 14:24 GMT
#12
meh i would wanna play but its 7am for me
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wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
October 19 2009 14:28 GMT
#13
Will the mic levels actually be reasonable this time (I like the idea, and was really disappointed that the sound was so bad I couldn't watch last time)
jambonkingcool
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada186 Posts
October 19 2009 14:32 GMT
#14
Iccup ID: douglove[sos]
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/douglove[sOs].html
Rank: D+ / C-
Race: Zerg
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
October 19 2009 14:40 GMT
#15
lol @ going from playing vs D's to playing vs C+... C+ should put up a reasonable fight without handicaps.
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
October 19 2009 14:40 GMT
#16
yeeees, another TL arena! hopefully i'll be able to watch this one live also.
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10877 Posts
October 19 2009 14:47 GMT
#17
Handicaps?

- No T1 Units (Zeals, Dragoons).
- Only 1 mining base at all times.
- No Shuttles, no Recall.
- No cloaked units and no observers.
- Only ranged units.
- Only melee units.
- No spells.
- No air units.
- You are not allowed to attack an expansion Nexus/CC/Hatchery.
- All your units start with 0 Shield (would need Editor use).
- All your units cost XX% more. (would need Editor use).
- The resources at your starting location are cut by 50%. (would need Editor use).
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
October 19 2009 14:49 GMT
#18
Well I suggested until c+ because non-koreans at that rank aren't yet too good, but could still produce interesting stuff. I never played with handicaps though, so I really don't know how hard it could get, but hopefully it will be interesting to play and watch ^^
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Mumblee
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada256 Posts
October 19 2009 14:59 GMT
#19
Iccup ID: Mumblee
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/mumblee.html
Rank: D+ (barely)
Race: Protoss

Handicaps:
Not allowed to build certain building (nexus/static defenses?)
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
October 19 2009 14:59 GMT
#20
Handicaps:

- Have to give your opponent shared vision
- Play with only the mouse (this would be a bit of an "honor system" one, though)
- No scouting with probes (but you can scout with zealots or corsairs or w/e)
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