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hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 20:27:02
September 02 2009 18:48 GMT
#1
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Disciple of the Xeris School of Design

www.cstarleague.com

FINAL STANDINGS


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Replays r7

Make your predictions...


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Visit the Playoffs thread for playoff details.

+ Show Spoiler [Past Standings] +


Round 6 Standings:

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Replays r6

Round 5 Standings:

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Replays r5

Round 4 Standings:

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Replays r4

Round 3 Standings:

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Replays r3

And a little news on the grapevine...

Round 2 Standings:

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Summary

Round 2 Replays

Round 1 Standings:

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Round One Replays




Divisions

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And instead of text, here it is in geographical form:

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Format:
East versus West. Neighbors versus neighbors and brothers versus brothers.

53 schools across North America will find themselves battling their sister schools, friends, and compatriots in eight different geographical divisions.

Only two teams from each division will advance.

Only one team will move on to represent the East or West.

And only one will win.

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New and improved map pool:

Neo Medusa, Heartbreak Ridge, Outsider, Destination, RoV, Shades of Twilight, God's Garden

Download new maps here

+ Show Spoiler [Detailed list] +

Round 1

1: Asgard
2: Destination
3: Ride of Valkyries
4: Heartbreak Ridge
5: Outsider

Round 2

1: Shades of Twilight
2: Ride of Valkyries
3: Neo Medusa
4: Destination
5: God's Garden

Round 3

1: Heartbreak Ridge
2: Outsider
3: Destination
4: Neo Medusa
5: Shades of Twilight

Round 4

1: Outsider
2: God's Garden
3: Heartbreak Ridge
4: Ride of Valkyries
5: Neo Medusa

Round 5

1: Ride of Valkyries
2: Destination
3: Shades of Twilight
4: Outsider
5: Heartbreak Ridge


Round 6

1: Destination
2: Neo Medusa
3: Asgard
4: Shades of Twilight
5: Ride of Valkyries

Round 7:

1: Neo Medusa
2: Heartbreak Ridge
3: Outsider
4: God's Garden
5: Destination





Games start the weekend of October 9th!

As always, feel free to PM me with any questions, concerns, or concerns




Past events

CSL All-Stars

+ Show Spoiler [Whatever happened to CSL?] +

+ Show Spoiler [Background] +
The story of Collegiate StarLeague started with a simple question: what if Princeton held a Proleague-style match against MIT? In fact, it was such a good idea that we asked a slightly different question: what if every university had a Proleague-style match against another school every week? CSL's roots are based on college students and a passion for competitive StarCraft.

We've made some decisions in the past that have been controversial, to say the least. However, we're cutting out all the crap and starting from square one. No LLCs, entry fees, big words, pretentious claims, or attempts to make an easy buck. CSL is being run by different group of people with a focus on gamers instead of profits. All of the work is done by dedicated volunteers who simply want to make CSL awesome.

Now we're moving in our own direction, one that involves:

- a FREE league for the love of the game
- guaranteed prizes


+ Show Spoiler [Hazelynut's Statement] +

Hey guys,

I don't really know where to begin with this email, so I'll just try my best to keep this short but understandable.

This past year, we incorporated as a legal entity, Collegiate StarCraft League, Inc. I had reservations to begin with - we were moving too fast, we would be misconstrued as profiteers, so on - but I figured I didn't know enough about corporations to be categorically condemning them. In the end, we incorporated because there were potential sponsors who wanted to enter into formal negotiations with us.

Now, I've realized I don't like the direction that CSL, Inc. is going. I don't know anything about business. I've been deferring a lot of decisions to others because of that, and now CSL isn't what it's really supposed to be - something fun, something not corporate, something to give back to the community.

A bit of a drama bomb dropped yesterday on www.teamliquid.net, which leads me to say this. You can follow the thread here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=101068.

But there is hope: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=101149. CSL IS POWERING UP.

I'm dropping the legal title and continuing with my vision of CSL. As far as I know, CSL, Inc. will still be running a CSL. I will also be running a CSL. I encourage you all to check both out and maybe even register for both - I understand either way, and think competing Starleagues are really cool (just like MSL and OSL). The other staff have a unique business vision of CSL because of previous experience in that area, but I don't think it will be compatible with mine.

That being said, I will be posting more information about "CSL+" ASAP. There will be a few minor changes, but nothing for the worse I think - including a free tournament and lots of fun. Unfortunately, we do not have a website at the moment, but we will be doing everything through gmail like last season and by hand for now. When the website goes up, we will hopefully be able to move everything to that.

Once again, I promise you another season of CSL no matter what, and I promise you it'll be even better than before.

(We're free, and we have prizes :D!)

Thanks,
Mona


+ Show Spoiler [Xeris's statement] +

For those wondering why we decided to make this break, you can refer to the closed thread. Basically the people behind the scenes of the CSL were beginning to take this idea in a direction that I didn't want to go in. They were more concerned about constructing a business and trying to earn profits rather than simply running an event for college students because they were passionate about the game. I (you, hazel... and me too) am not interested in making money or profit but rather to see my love for this game spread across the United States and catch fire like it did in Korea. The game itself and the community are the most important things, so we want to host this FOR the community.

Are the "other" guys still going to run their CSL? I don't know, it's possible. Why should you choose our CSL? We are not faceless corporate people, we are real members of the community who have worked for the community and will continue to work for the community. We're not interested in making money but putting on a well-run and exciting league. In the end, they may have the flash and the "registered LLC" - but we have what's most important, a group of people who are dedicated and passionate, working for the joy of creating something awesome for everyone. Our admins are all volunteers and people who are just as passionate as us.


Clarification about VoE:

Please don't implicate Voice of ESports in this whole fiasco, because they had nothing to do with the registration fees or the incorporation of CSL. They're happy to support and publicize CSL+ through streaming and commentary (they coordinate the casting, but that doesn't mean they're trying to monopolize it, so we're all open to getting other people onstage as well!).

CSL just ran into a very big difference in management style among its own admin, and that's where this is all coming from.

Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
September 02 2009 18:50 GMT
#2
Well that seems good.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
September 02 2009 18:51 GMT
#3
This is very good and I hope that the community will support this. But how will you offer prizes if it's free?
Sullifam
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2196 Posts
September 02 2009 18:56 GMT
#4
On September 03 2009 03:51 ghostWriter wrote:
This is very good and I hope that the community will support this. But how will you offer prizes if it's free?


It's a secret to everybody.
Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 02 2009 18:59 GMT
#5
so how is this going to work seeing as there are two CSLs?
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
September 02 2009 19:00 GMT
#6
On September 03 2009 03:56 hazelynut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2009 03:51 ghostWriter wrote:
This is very good and I hope that the community will support this. But how will you offer prizes if it's free?


It's a secret to everybody.



Oh okay. That's fine.
Is this the same thing as the one that Xeris was promoting and the nice, non-lame counterpart to that other csl tournament that got closed? It's getting kinda confusing, especially since you're apparently in both.
Sullifam
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 19:02:18
September 02 2009 19:01 GMT
#7
yes I would like some clarification as to what exactly is going on. for sure there can't be two different CSLs?
blabberrrrr
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
September 02 2009 19:01 GMT
#8
The Swiss system is a very good idea; I hope you don't end up changing it...
ziz
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
203 Posts
September 02 2009 19:09 GMT
#9
On September 03 2009 04:01 blabber wrote:
yes I would like some clarification as to what exactly is going on. for sure there can't be two different CSLs?


From what I gather,

There are two CSLs

One, headed by mona and supported by TL, is CSL+

The other, headed by sedraxis?, is CSL (cstarleague.org)

I don't see many schools joining the CSL instead of CSL+
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2196 Posts
September 02 2009 19:09 GMT
#10
Here's a snippet from the spoiler now:

I'm dropping the legal title and continuing with my vision of CSL. As far as I know, CSL, Inc. will still be running a CSL. I will also be running a CSL. I encourage you all to check both out and maybe even register for both - I understand either way, and think competing Starleagues are really cool (just like MSL and OSL). The other staff have a unique business vision of CSL because of previous experience in that area, but I don't think it will be compatible with mine.


^^In the most diplomatic way I could put it.

There are two CSL's. I'm not sure how legal matters will end up with CSL, Inc., but they're planning to run a league as well. We're running a league minus the bureaucracy, fees, and corporation - called CSL+ just in case they decide to trademark the name.
Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
September 02 2009 19:14 GMT
#11
Lies and heresy is all I see.
Peace~
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
September 02 2009 19:14 GMT
#12
yeah I really don't see how the other CSL will survive with their fees and everything when everyone will just join this one.
blabberrrrr
vAltyR
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States581 Posts
September 02 2009 19:14 GMT
#13
Are you in a CC but interested in CSL? - PM me for details!

I'm assuming by "CC" you mean community college?
내 호버크라프트는 장어로 가득 차 있어요
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2196 Posts
September 02 2009 19:16 GMT
#14
On September 03 2009 04:14 vAltyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
Are you in a CC but interested in CSL? - PM me for details!

I'm assuming by "CC" you mean community college?


Yes, at this point we haven't decided anything yet but we're trying to get a count of people who won't be able to play because of issues like being at a small college / etc.
Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
September 02 2009 19:23 GMT
#15
Cool!

...so why are there two CSL threads now?
:3
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 02 2009 19:24 GMT
#16
On September 03 2009 03:59 Caller wrote:
so how is this going to work seeing as there are two CSLs?

boycott the other one ezpz.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 02 2009 19:26 GMT
#17
On September 03 2009 04:24 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2009 03:59 Caller wrote:
so how is this going to work seeing as there are two CSLs?

boycott the other one ezpz.

lol i dont even play that much anymore -_-
someone should start a college dota league
still got the timings down though-hell ya
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 19:29:01
September 02 2009 19:28 GMT
#18
On September 03 2009 04:23 Eiii wrote:
Cool!

...so why are there two CSL threads now?


That's probably confusing, sorry about that. One was a happy preview to this thread, and this thread has everything you need to know about registration.

On September 03 2009 04:26 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2009 04:24 Shikyo wrote:
boycott the other one ezpz.

lol i dont even play that much anymore -_-
someone should start a college dota league
still got the timings down though-hell ya



I have a friend trying to start one, but no one ever responds to him. He said he had 10 interested schools. PM me if you want his details ^^

Having two leagues might be a solution to the A/B team problem that some schools have.
Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
September 02 2009 19:31 GMT
#19
so does the other CSL still require a fee?
blabberrrrr
ziz
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
203 Posts
September 02 2009 19:32 GMT
#20
On September 03 2009 04:31 blabber wrote:
so does the other CSL still require a fee?


yes ofc
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