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mc pulling the standard korean gm tvp
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On March 05 2013 23:15 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 23:14 Godwrath wrote:On March 05 2013 23:12 grindC wrote:On March 05 2013 23:11 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:08 sAsImre wrote:On March 05 2013 23:07 TmzZ666 wrote:
I cant understand why Blinding Cloud works only on ground units, it doesnt make any sense.
implication: viper useless vs air toss
On a different note: zerg needs anti caster spell -> i would put it on overseer.
don't put an useful spell on a 0 supply unit. scan? mule? Photon Cannons even shoot, so imba I want EMP on mules. Gawd it reminds me of the Templar + storm + Kaydharin warp in. "Warp in spells".
i'm ok with a 5s cd on the mule before using EMP, deal.
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On March 05 2013 23:15 Swordland wrote:
Damn I missed parting vs luci, score anybody?
That game hasn't been played yet
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On March 05 2013 23:14 Zarahtra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 23:09 Lysanias wrote:On March 05 2013 23:06 Zarahtra wrote:On March 05 2013 23:04 Lysanias wrote:On March 05 2013 23:01 nomyx wrote:On March 05 2013 22:58 dainbramage wrote:On March 05 2013 22:57 nomyx wrote:It takes several months for a terran to call broodlord / infestor imba it only takes 1 day for zergs to call skytoss imba  Yeah, but mediocre foreign zergs are used to beating top korean protosses. Hopefully HotS is a wake up call for most zergs. And put Protoss back to sleep. Because there was minimal micro needed for Parting. Splitting voids ? what's that ? Face it Protoss is the new zerg  Atleast we know that parting is an awesome player. We'll see if in a while every protoss becomes awesome all of a sudden(and clearly that would be just them playing and practicing really hard, right?). From what I've seen yet, they haven't. Parting is an awsome player really skilled, so what does that matter ? He needed very little micro to win that battle, and i said this not because it think Parting is bad but because people whine about Slivko's micro yet did not look at what Parting had to do to win those fights. Because in the least, a boring 1a movefest ended with the better player winning, and thankfully it is showing how great all these superstars that came out of nowhere and have been brutalizing the scene for a year are. Furtheremore while zerg seems decently weak in HotS, protoss in no way seems as powerful as zerg has been. Slivko just camped against a superior player, expecting his deathball to be greater than his opponents with the end result being the superior player winning hands down, without any effort.
You are right it's forbidden for a foreign zerg to beat a korean.
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On March 05 2013 23:15 karpotoss wrote:
is there any point of this reaper shenanigans?
Insane scouting, you can check his base for the first 6-7 minutes so you don't get surprised by any oracles or stuff like that.
Heh.
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On March 05 2013 23:14 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 23:13 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:12 Teoita wrote:On March 05 2013 23:11 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:08 sAsImre wrote:On March 05 2013 23:07 TmzZ666 wrote:
I cant understand why Blinding Cloud works only on ground units, it doesnt make any sense.
implication: viper useless vs air toss
On a different note: zerg needs anti caster spell -> i would put it on overseer.
don't put an useful spell on a 0 supply unit. scan? mule? Pretty sure buildings are not fighting units. pretty sure overseers aren't either. Pretty sure they would be if they became an "anti-caster" like TmzZ666 proposed. Tell me you wouldn't make 20 of some good feedbacking overseers :D
3radius "aura" prevents activated abilities around the overseer. Don't see a problem with that if the costs are right 
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On March 05 2013 23:14 DOUDOU wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 23:12 ZenithM wrote:On March 05 2013 23:11 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:08 sAsImre wrote:On March 05 2013 23:07 TmzZ666 wrote:
I cant understand why Blinding Cloud works only on ground units, it doesnt make any sense.
implication: viper useless vs air toss
On a different note: zerg needs anti caster spell -> i would put it on overseer.
don't put an useful spell on a 0 supply unit. scan? mule? It's not like you can kill your opponent by dumping mules and scans on him. seems i've been lied to explains a lot
I've noticed that when you dump 10 mules on your opponent and he has no unit, it either makes him leave the game with no gg or fly his buildings for 10 minutes.
I think I'm onto something.
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old time happiness brings the mest memories!
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On March 05 2013 23:16 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 23:14 ZenithM wrote:On March 05 2013 23:13 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:12 Teoita wrote:On March 05 2013 23:11 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:08 sAsImre wrote:On March 05 2013 23:07 TmzZ666 wrote:
I cant understand why Blinding Cloud works only on ground units, it doesnt make any sense.
implication: viper useless vs air toss
On a different note: zerg needs anti caster spell -> i would put it on overseer.
don't put an useful spell on a 0 supply unit. scan? mule? Pretty sure buildings are not fighting units. pretty sure overseers aren't either. Pretty sure they would be if they became an "anti-caster" like TmzZ666 proposed. Tell me you wouldn't make 20 of some good feedbacking overseers :D 3radius "aura" prevents activated abilities around the overseer. Don't see a problem with that if the costs are right
build 50 overseers.
GG
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Nathanias missing the widow mine drop 
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On March 05 2013 23:17 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 23:16 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:14 ZenithM wrote:On March 05 2013 23:13 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:12 Teoita wrote:On March 05 2013 23:11 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:08 sAsImre wrote:On March 05 2013 23:07 TmzZ666 wrote:
I cant understand why Blinding Cloud works only on ground units, it doesnt make any sense.
implication: viper useless vs air toss
On a different note: zerg needs anti caster spell -> i would put it on overseer.
don't put an useful spell on a 0 supply unit. scan? mule? Pretty sure buildings are not fighting units. pretty sure overseers aren't either. Pretty sure they would be if they became an "anti-caster" like TmzZ666 proposed. Tell me you wouldn't make 20 of some good feedbacking overseers :D 3radius "aura" prevents activated abilities around the overseer. Don't see a problem with that if the costs are right build 50 overseers. GG
And it's not even that expensive :D
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MC not noticed the mine yet ? :O
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On March 05 2013 23:17 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 23:16 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:14 ZenithM wrote:On March 05 2013 23:13 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:12 Teoita wrote:On March 05 2013 23:11 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:08 sAsImre wrote:On March 05 2013 23:07 TmzZ666 wrote:
I cant understand why Blinding Cloud works only on ground units, it doesnt make any sense.
implication: viper useless vs air toss
On a different note: zerg needs anti caster spell -> i would put it on overseer.
don't put an useful spell on a 0 supply unit. scan? mule? Pretty sure buildings are not fighting units. pretty sure overseers aren't either. Pretty sure they would be if they became an "anti-caster" like TmzZ666 proposed. Tell me you wouldn't make 20 of some good feedbacking overseers :D 3radius "aura" prevents activated abilities around the overseer. Don't see a problem with that if the costs are right build 50 overseers. GG
Yeah. problem is that Overseers are 0 supply
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On March 05 2013 23:18 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 23:17 sAsImre wrote:On March 05 2013 23:16 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:14 ZenithM wrote:On March 05 2013 23:13 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:12 Teoita wrote:On March 05 2013 23:11 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:08 sAsImre wrote:On March 05 2013 23:07 TmzZ666 wrote:
I cant understand why Blinding Cloud works only on ground units, it doesnt make any sense.
implication: viper useless vs air toss
On a different note: zerg needs anti caster spell -> i would put it on overseer.
don't put an useful spell on a 0 supply unit. scan? mule? Pretty sure buildings are not fighting units. pretty sure overseers aren't either. Pretty sure they would be if they became an "anti-caster" like TmzZ666 proposed. Tell me you wouldn't make 20 of some good feedbacking overseers :D 3radius "aura" prevents activated abilities around the overseer. Don't see a problem with that if the costs are right build 50 overseers. GG And it's not even that expensive :D
imagine not being able to stim/heal/siege lol.
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On March 05 2013 23:16 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 23:15 karpotoss wrote:
is there any point of this reaper shenanigans? Insane scouting, you can check his base for the first 6-7 minutes so you don't get surprised by any oracles or stuff like that. Heh.
And it also gives something to watch on early game instead of "guy fast expands.... building stuff....building stuff...."
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On March 05 2013 23:18 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 23:17 sAsImre wrote:On March 05 2013 23:16 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:14 ZenithM wrote:On March 05 2013 23:13 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:12 Teoita wrote:On March 05 2013 23:11 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:08 sAsImre wrote:On March 05 2013 23:07 TmzZ666 wrote:
I cant understand why Blinding Cloud works only on ground units, it doesnt make any sense.
implication: viper useless vs air toss
On a different note: zerg needs anti caster spell -> i would put it on overseer.
don't put an useful spell on a 0 supply unit. scan? mule? Pretty sure buildings are not fighting units. pretty sure overseers aren't either. Pretty sure they would be if they became an "anti-caster" like TmzZ666 proposed. Tell me you wouldn't make 20 of some good feedbacking overseers :D 3radius "aura" prevents activated abilities around the overseer. Don't see a problem with that if the costs are right build 50 overseers. GG And it's not even that expensive :D
sry, meant an "activated aura" with "friendly fire" on more costly overseers 
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Marine instantly dies when oracles look at them kinda mean
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There is no reason to believe deathballs will disappear just because they put in a few new units.
The fundamental issue creating stagnant late games lies in the economic system of SC2 that has always capped economic growth beyond 3 mining bases.
The result of this is that late game economies in SC2 are always more or less equal. The late game then becomes a question of who has the most cost efficient army (and it is this that makes the games boring).
Where in BW you would have asymmetrical economies that forced a passive player with an "imbalanced army" and fewer bases into action, in SC2 the economies just conform and become equal. None of the players has any incentive to be aggressive or to try make the game interesting. All that matters once both players are at 3 bases or above is who is best at preserving their army value.
It's a fundamental issue. Don't expect HotS to fix it. Koreans and stephano are good enough at constantly trading and delaying these stalemate situations that you don't notice them as much, but they still occur often enough.
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On March 05 2013 23:18 Hopelessnoob wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 23:17 sAsImre wrote:On March 05 2013 23:16 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:14 ZenithM wrote:On March 05 2013 23:13 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:12 Teoita wrote:On March 05 2013 23:11 Big J wrote:On March 05 2013 23:08 sAsImre wrote:On March 05 2013 23:07 TmzZ666 wrote:
I cant understand why Blinding Cloud works only on ground units, it doesnt make any sense.
implication: viper useless vs air toss
On a different note: zerg needs anti caster spell -> i would put it on overseer.
don't put an useful spell on a 0 supply unit. scan? mule? Pretty sure buildings are not fighting units. pretty sure overseers aren't either. Pretty sure they would be if they became an "anti-caster" like TmzZ666 proposed. Tell me you wouldn't make 20 of some good feedbacking overseers :D 3radius "aura" prevents activated abilities around the overseer. Don't see a problem with that if the costs are right build 50 overseers. GG Yeah. problem is that Overseers are 0 supply
yup Browder even acknowledged several times that the unit was hard to balance since if it was too useful it'd be totally imba, and his spells still needs to be relevant for it to be more than a detector.
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