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CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
January 20 2011 19:04 GMT
#141
No reason to dwell on the past, shit I didn't even play BW. If he makes it in thats one way to silence the haters, gl you'll need it.
Great pasta mom, very Korean. Even my crown leans to the side. Gangsta. --------->
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
January 20 2011 19:10 GMT
#142
On January 21 2011 03:57 Achilles wrote:
Something tells me he's gonna be BIG...


These kind of jokes are not funny.

Good luck to the guy, always fun to see more foreigners over there. I remember reading about his cheating some time back, but was it ever 100% confirmed, and doesn't he refuse the claims even today ?
Dead girls don't say no.
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
January 20 2011 19:11 GMT
#143
Good luck Spades! Hope you succeed, need another player to cheer for.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
January 20 2011 19:11 GMT
#144
spades:
admins decision
After checking all replays by a group of experts we'r going in favor of Reign, nobody found anything suspicious.

Due to this kind of troubles, I am going to take measures and not only the player that is being accused is the only one to be penalized but also the player that made the complain will take consequences if I found that his complains are only base on "Suppositions"


most of the hack "facts" you come up with are flawed and bs. Everythign in my lastgosu games you call suspicious have logical explanations, or are just coicidence, as is that vessel you say i flew away. It was just lucky timing if that because usually when u see a rogue vessel you bring it back, and you can also see that i keep flying it out to look every once in a while.

You say i run back to my main when your dropping, i was set up taking a 3rd when he dropped, and had to run back, i hadnt even moved until he dropped on me. The other times i moved back were purely guesswork, as i would leave my base, see 2 lurkers burrowed, kill them and a ling then move back expecting the counter, seems logical to me.

Pretty much everywhere you called me hack is just using pure logic or guessing and getting lucky. If you had half a brain and watched the reps you would see how many times im cornered, countered, surprised, and take heavy losses for it. People were saying wow how is spades playing liek a A+ progamer terran, wow im flattered.

Sure i havent done anything offline yet, but that doesnt mean i suck. People have said, "oh he didnt make wcg last year, but now he magically does?" wtf does that have to do with anything, its been a whole fucking year. I've achieved b+ or A- on iccup every season so far, and i beat many known/good players. Just because i stomped out lastgosu 4-1 doesnt mean i hack. He's really not that good, i purely outmacroed/microed him. I dont think i looked anywhere near A+ progamer, but thanks i guess. I just trained with an A+ zerg, so i was used to playing at a higher level than lastgosu, so he seemed tame by comparison. Call me a hacker, call me whatever i really dont care, just thought i would explain myself for the people who dont get caught up in witchhunt bullshit. From medias and other retards reactions, im really glad i took one of their spots for wcg, maybe a few of the nerds will commit suicide now in their depression.

See, he said he doesnt hack, he probably doesnt :D!

to be completely honest, I had no idea Spades was acussed of hacking on bw, cause I stopped following a long while ago, so when I read this thread its the first time I know of spades hacking and its disappointing, but u can't fault VT really, as they had nothing to do with him hacking or not hacking and probably didn't check his history before recruiting him, which can be pretty hard to do.

either way, he's a nice guy and a good player since i've known him (esentially sc2) I think he could do ok in korea, so gl bryan!
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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
January 20 2011 19:18 GMT
#145
Honestly who cares if he does have a shady past. That happened a long time ago and he obviously doesn't do it anymore. If you guys don't want to support him than fine, but don't go flaming him on public threads.

As for the actual topic, gl spades! I don't predict a lot of sucess right away, but Korea seems like the way to get your game to the next level and I think thats the most important thing.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 19:48:56
January 20 2011 19:48 GMT
#146
glhf spades<3 practice hard!
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
bLuR
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada625 Posts
January 20 2011 20:28 GMT
#147
this thread is getting a bit out of hand... gl spades
BritishBeef
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom372 Posts
January 20 2011 20:29 GMT
#148
This thread got completed destroyed

SNARFF
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
January 20 2011 20:33 GMT
#149
gl hf spades and thx for the interview artosis!
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Antedelerium
Profile Joined June 2010
United States224 Posts
January 20 2011 20:40 GMT
#150
A couple of my friends watch his stream pretty often, and he looks pretty decent from what I have seen. I hope he can get Code A, but the sheer number of really good foreigners that aren't in it yet along with the culture changes make me doubtful that Spades can make it now. I'd say he has a good chance for making it in a season or two, but we'll see what happens.

Either way, GL Spades
"Isn't it ironic to yell the word silence?" ~B.C.
link0
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1071 Posts
January 20 2011 20:45 GMT
#151
good luck Spades!
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
January 20 2011 20:52 GMT
#152
On January 21 2011 04:11 CatZ.root wrote:
long post

Catz, he was caught and proven to be a hacker. He also admitted it. There's no use being ignorant of the situation.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 21:02:01
January 20 2011 20:57 GMT
#153
To clarify the history stuff, TL used a flag method that confirmed Spades hacked in early 2008, and was subsequently banned from TL and many events. He apologized and asked to be unbanned in late September 2010. We felt his apology was sincere and unbanned him, and he served out his suspension from TL events until the end of 2010. Since then he's been quite a different person, so it does appear he has changed.

I believe in giving people second chances in certain circumstances. You don't need to completely forget about peoples pasts, but constantly dredging it up isn't cool either. I don't think it's inappropriate for people to voice their opinions on what Spades did in the past. I don't think it's inappropriate for people to defend him either. Just don't do it in this way because that's a personal attack on others and that has no place here. As I've said before, cheating and hacking is pretty much the worst thing you can do as a progamer or semipro. You can't really fault people for still being angry about that -- it's not something to be taken lightly.

Anyway, anyone who works hard and pursues their dream is worthy of at least a little admiration. So good luck in Korea Spades, unless you meet a Liquid` player in the Code A groups
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
January 20 2011 20:59 GMT
#154
On January 21 2011 05:52 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 04:11 CatZ.root wrote:
long post

Catz, he was caught and proven to be a hacker. He also admitted it. There's no use being ignorant of the situation.


If Spades really did write that, and then admited to hacking vs LastGosu, that's rather telling of his character, wouldn't you say? You seem to be supporting this, and I'm kind of surprised, usually you're a unforgiving stalwart when it comes to hackers.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 21:07:34
January 20 2011 21:00 GMT
#155
Code S, no.

Code A, he has a great shot. We've seen a lot of Code A games and even the top Code A players are wellll below Code S. I'd give every good to great foreign player a legit shot of getting into Code A.

Tip of the day for anyone going to Korea: Prepare for cheese.

Edit: Aww he's a (ex) hacker? Shame. Either way GL. I really want to see a VT member do well!
Blobskillz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany548 Posts
January 20 2011 21:05 GMT
#156
who is spades
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
January 20 2011 21:11 GMT
#157
On January 21 2011 05:59 Salv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 05:52 Chill wrote:
On January 21 2011 04:11 CatZ.root wrote:
long post

Catz, he was caught and proven to be a hacker. He also admitted it. There's no use being ignorant of the situation.


If Spades really did write that, and then admited to hacking vs LastGosu, that's rather telling of his character, wouldn't you say? You seem to be supporting this, and I'm kind of surprised, usually you're a unforgiving stalwart when it comes to hackers.

People can change. When I read my posts from 4-6 years ago, I can't recognize myself. Spades in BW was a huge douche. Spades in SC2 looks like a completely different person. Combined with his explanation and apology, I just happen to choose, in this specific change, to believe that he deserves a second chance.
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fainez
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States91 Posts
January 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#158
On January 20 2011 18:03 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 17:14 netherDrake wrote:
On January 20 2011 17:11 shannn wrote:
On January 20 2011 17:04 netherDrake wrote:
He's needs to get top 200 really soon because the Code A qualifications aren't too far away.

Unless he's in the foreign invites list.

Somehow from your statement I make out of it that the code A qualifiers for foreigners is that they need to be in the top 200. Unless this has changed this last week this isn't the case for foreigners.

Don't know him but gl to him. Hope he'll make it through. More foreigners is always good.


Oh. So foreigners don't need to be in the top 200 to try to qualify, and 4 foreigners will be allowed to skip qualification and enter code A straight away?

Is that the case?

Yes exactly like you put it.

Basically the popularity contest or voting contest of 4 foreigners makes it so that those 4 are directly in the ro32 of code A.

Foreigners who didn't get in that list of 4 are going to have to qualify alongside with top 172 Korean ladder players. Foreigners don't need to be in the top172 but obviously if ur skill level isn't on par with those people then chances of qualifying are going to be slim.


it's important to remember that the "top" 64 code S&A korean's won't be in this tournament making it a lot easier to get through. Just something to think about.

Anyways I think spades has a good chance of making it in, but there are still some really good players not in Codes S&A he could hit in the qualifiers.
DuFFmAn69
Profile Joined March 2010
United States78 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 21:40:09
January 20 2011 21:35 GMT
#159
On January 21 2011 04:01 drewbie.root wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 03:14 DuFFmAn69 wrote:
spades got caught hacking in bw and probably WCG. no support for hackers from me </3
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/thread.php?id=247003

Spades is a really nice guy and who cares if he hacked 5 years ago, he certainly does not hack now. At least Spades isn't a little allin newbie that shit talks every game like you duffman so please stop trolling this thread.
GL Spades !

Maybe you don't understand what a "troll" is so here's a reference link. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=130403
I am simply stating a fact that spades got caught hacking and would never admit to it with CLEAR evidence. Also i believe it was only a couple years ago when he got caught, how are you so sure he doesn't hack now? Speculations like that is the price he has to pay for his actions, that's life. Also I enjoy being an allin newbie, because i do it "all in xD" fun, and your the only one talking shit. btw I don't I've ever played you or even talked to you on bnet so uhh... don't know where the hate is coming from. anyways, have a great day man!

edit: typo
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
January 20 2011 21:58 GMT
#160
I can't see myself ever cheering for a guy who hacked vs everyone in BW to reach top 5 wgt and to dominate the yankee league. The only ex hacker I'd really ever cheer for is Testie since he was unbeatable with or without hacking O_O
Either way, best of luck to spades~
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