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OscarN
Cape Verde292 Posts
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On July 11 2011 00:59 OscarN wrote: Wow kids in this thread,. Worst tournament ever" QQ, its 100k for starcraft two and all u fucking whiny bitches complain complain complain, just be happy a tournament this big is going on, if u dont watch it live im sure there is gunna be VoD's of it, please stop QQing Constructive criticism is good because it allows an event to determine what viewer experience was like and to correct their flaws. If every1 said nothing NASL runs the risk of making the same mistakes, which is detrimental for everyone involved. If the community is vocal about the format, downtime, maps, production quality, audio, etc, chances are the people running this league will take the complaints into consideration and improve their product. | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
Next time BO5 Double-elim and I might check it out again | ||
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andytb
United Kingdom180 Posts
Big thank yous > After Sen/Darkforce the sound quality from the commentators was spot on, with only a couple exceptions. Thank you thank you thank you. The best sound producer is one that nobody knows is even there. > Roaming interviews is a great way to fill time and something I've suggested a few times in the past in relation to MLG. Lindsey Sporrer, bless her foibles, is exactly the sort of person who can make anyone feel like they're important when on camera and she did a good job getting what would be a stereotypically shy crowd to speak up > Dropping the hype videos before the semis was such a relief, love them to bits but one showing only per VT reel please! More of the same pre-prepared for when players advance would be very welcome! > You seem to be taking all the feedback from previous events like MLG on board. On stage interviews, hype videos, hosts introducing the games and adequate seating for fans is coooool Places for improvement at future events > Consider hiring a staffed auditorium instead of an exhibition hall ala Dreamhack's 1,100 seater Dreamarena Extreme [2] would save on having to do your own production on the stage management side. That way the crowd get a more intimate experience and you get to focus on the event operations. > At an event where every single game is broadcast, IMO it's cool to schedule short and run the risk of going notionally "late" rather than have 45 minutes of downtime when a game goes a quick 2-0. Dreamhack Invitational used the same format as your event (starting at the Ro8), and everyone would agree they cracked it. > Instead of being exciting, single elim from the outset seemed unsatisfying with many fan favourites going out at the first stage. I like the GSL group format as every game matters, but round robin would be cool too. > On a similar note the open bracket wildcard seems imba, and I'd rather see all the focus on a truly open and free to enter regular season qualification system. There's no free rides or lucky brackets on the way to the $50,000 first prize of MLG Providence Peace Andy | ||
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Imres
515 Posts
On July 11 2011 00:52 TheSubtleArt wrote: That was more of an issue with latency and playing at bad hours, which are beyond the control of the NASL (they're based in North America, so it's only fair they schedule matches accordingly) They could have let players played on their server if they're from the same region. The live experience was useless too (at first I believed it was coming from replays) and that would allow players to play at a proper time. | ||
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Fuckyeah
17 Posts
But is there still NASL today? (It's 6pm on Suday right now) Because it says that it'll be from Friday to Sunday but I don't see anything in their schedule. | ||
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
On July 11 2011 01:45 Fuckyeah wrote: I know this may be a dumb question. But is there still NASL today? (It's 6pm on Suday right now) Because it says that it'll be from Friday to Sunday but I don't see anything in their schedule. Finals and losers final today yes | ||
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Skydancer
Italy249 Posts
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
format - no more single elim please, im sure players really enjoyed flying 20 hours there to just lose 1 bo3 in 15 minutes. sound - test everything on the stream, im sure the mics were all great at the live event, but on the stream they were pretty bad. esp the translator mics, most of the time it seemed like they werent even on for the stream. even have a computer with the stream on so u can see what is wrong my 3 major issues, please fix :D | ||
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PHILtheTANK
United States1834 Posts
On July 10 2011 12:14 DontGiveUp wrote: I still can't watch because of lag (premium ticket holder). Tried in two PCs with two different internet provider connections. I have no hope of ever getting a refund, as Ive been complaining since week1 to no avail. NASL will never get a dollar from me again. I'm almost 100% certain this is on youur end. All of the games i've watched so far I had to do on my cell phone with terrible reception due to not being at home/access to a computter, and I haven't experienced any lag at all. | ||
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
On July 11 2011 01:59 zev318 wrote: downtime/schedule - less of it please dear god format - no more single elim please, im sure players really enjoyed flying 20 hours there to just lose 1 bo3 in 15 minutes. sound - test everything on the stream, im sure the mics were all great at the live event, but on the stream they were pretty bad. esp the translator mics, most of the time it seemed like they werent even on for the stream. even have a computer with the stream on so u can see what is wrong my 3 major issues, please fix :D this basically i was looking at the calendar and thinking "ooh, starting at 8pm local, might actually be able to watch the final" then noticing that they've scheduled an hour of junk, two hours for a bo5 ZvZ and then another hour of downtime before the final | ||
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Glowbox
Netherlands330 Posts
pr - lots of anger can be avoided if we would actually know what is going. Instead people have to guess or find out days later what was wrong. format - one bo3 for 15 hours of flying is not cool. maps - some horrible maps like crossfire. | ||
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
American finals, $50k first place prize: Yea, we don't need only the players to catch-up. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
were they like omg we can't let them pick, that would take up too much time. | ||
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Shizanu
Germany44 Posts
-reduce downtime heavily. I would suggest starting one game after the other straight away. If you dont want to do that for some reason: U know matchups beforehand, so use average match length for sheduling --> no 1,5h timeslot for bo3 ZvZ. Otherwise just improvise, e.g. ask those who lost on day1 to play some showmatches (would have been great day2, instead of 45min downtime between 2 ZvZ). -get a good non-casting observer. One of the major things, that makes GSL by far the most enjoyable stream to me, is that the korean observer is just awesome, showing all the relevant information to understand what is going on in the game, while having smooth camera movement all the time. Good observing is NOT easy! | ||
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Jimbroslice
52 Posts
1. The "Journey to the Finals" videos were great, however, I suggest introducing the players first and then playing those videos as the players are getting their settings in order / warming up. I felt that multiple times those journey videos pumped me up to see the two players face off, only to have to wait 20-30 more minutes while they fixed their settings. 2. This may be more of a personal opinion, but I really prefer a double elimination format (Group Play format or Bracket Format). It sucks seeing all of these amazing players fly over and then lose 0-2 and be done for the tournament. Yes one could argue that the single-elimination makes the games seem more important, however, as a fan, I would much rather see more action out of all of these great players. This would possibly require a second stream to accomplish, but it would certainly be worth it. 3. Sound has already been mentioned multiple times, not going to repeat it. 4. I see so many people calling for a Plott Brothers dual cast ( Day9 + Tasteless). Please Please Please make it happen :D | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On July 11 2011 00:52 TheSubtleArt wrote: That was more of an issue with latency and playing at bad hours, which are beyond the control of the NASL (they're based in North America, so it's only fair they schedule matches accordingly) I think bad hours and latency are issues, but not the primary issues. The same way that a constantly changing location doesn't prevent guys like Naniwa or TLO from flying to MLG. If NASL had amazing production quality, great and consistent casting, helpful and attentive organizers, the best competitors, and was basically the hottest thing in SC2, than European and Korean players would be crawling over each other to participate. They wouldn't give a shit about latency or playing hours. | ||
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
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FOUTWENTYSIXTY
89 Posts
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
On July 11 2011 02:22 Soap wrote: Korean finals, $50k (?) first place prize: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU67R8_h80I&t=2m50s American finals, $50k first place prize: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlD3tsu1JOo Yea, we don't need only the players to catch-up. Or a western tournament with smaller prizepool. | ||
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