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Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
April 14 2009 02:44 GMT
#41
I find if you watch the replay after each loss it gives you time to cool down and something to focus on in your next game. Often times I find myself making dumb mistakes that could have been alleviated if I scouted a bit more, so take a second and relax and go into my next game with a focus on scouting.

Treat each loss as a lesson, telling you where you're game is weak so you can correct it later.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
April 14 2009 02:47 GMT
#42
I have almost the same issue. So you guys just take breaks then...
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
April 14 2009 02:48 GMT
#43
Just focus on your own play in the game. Like the progamers always say, don't lose concentration. Play your best, and if you did everything you could but still lost, then the loss isn't bad at all.

Works for me.
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
April 14 2009 02:49 GMT
#44
I have a similar problem, but i deal with it differently.

I get pissed. So I keep asking for regames until i figure the (supposed) noob opponent out, or until I've learned to correct my mistakes and/or improve my timing based on where it fails against his build.

If I don't get a regame though... I can become really pissed. I can't stop playing until I've calmed down. Which usually is after I stop screwing up or start winning a couple of games.

If an opponent is clearly superior to me I don't get mad though. It's strange. But you learn to recognize when you're outclassed as opposed to outcheesed etc.
Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
April 14 2009 02:51 GMT
#45
On April 14 2009 10:05 arb wrote:
calm the fuck down


Reference to Jaedong VS Bisu on Blue Storm?
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-14 02:53:48
April 14 2009 02:53 GMT
#46
I've been on such a brutal losing stream after doing well earlier this season. I can totally understand how the OP feels. After my 4th loss in a row today I just wanted to break something.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
April 14 2009 03:01 GMT
#47
Just don't care. A loss is a loss. Who cares. Only start crying when you lose 5 games in a row at D-.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
April 14 2009 03:28 GMT
#48
Good topic and good replys. I enjoy this sort of psychological stuff. I'm a pretty raging loser myself when its something stupid on my part, or cheese on their part. For example, letting goon bust down my wall 2 games in a row. THen I realized, stop underestimating the opponent and bring 3 damn scv's. I think it was Chill who said separate yourself for a bit and come back to it after a while you'll be fine ... and maybe laugh at the issue. gl hf
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404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
April 14 2009 03:29 GMT
#49
On April 14 2009 09:30 Chill wrote:
Get over your stats. After that it becomes pretty easy to just keep playing.


This. When I get losses on my main account I will go on a tilt. I now almost NEVER play on my main account, but play on silly smurfs. The fact that I'm not trying to make an image and just playing the game allows me to play far better and, for me, more aggressive.

When I get really frustrated I'll activate caps lock, spam /f m a little bit then find a way to laugh about it. If you're getting really frustrated and just can't seem to play anymore, I can ALWAYS benefit (oftentimes in ways that help my main race that I would've never gotten just "toughing it out").

Personally I have a smurf for each race, then one I just fuck around on. Makes the games a lot less meaningful and easy to play. Then once I start dropping games going from C- to C I clear stats and stomp noobs!... I'm getting nowhere fast
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
April 14 2009 03:46 GMT
#50
continue to hate losing

embrace anger

such a great emotion (as long as you don't direct it at anybody, including yourself!)
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
KO_SharpMind
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada277 Posts
April 14 2009 03:54 GMT
#51
Man, That happens to a lot of people, it's no biggie,
After a lose i just tend to look at the replay and see where i went wrong, as day[9] said, embrace anger, sometimes it can make you play even better or motivate you to go on to the next level and evolve into a better person.
Reflect on your loses, or take a break, let yourself cool down, refresh your mind and be calm for the next match is about to begin and a calm mind is victorious over a frustrated one.

Act the way you'd like to be, and soon you'll be the way you act.
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
April 14 2009 04:12 GMT
#52
To be honest, I have lost so many times by now that I have ceased to care as much. I try to learn what I can from the match and then move on. But of course, you never really stop caring completely about winning or losing. Afterall, everybody likes to win.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
April 14 2009 04:18 GMT
#53
I don't think not caring about losing is the answer. I think you should be a little upset that you lost.
Just watch the replay, that's what I do. I had the same problem as you did because I tried to continuously play one game after another. Take a little time, watch the replay, think about the game, and then play again. You'll get better faster this way
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
April 14 2009 04:24 GMT
#54
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=91248&currentpage=2#24
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
April 14 2009 04:36 GMT
#55
On April 14 2009 09:21 Lexpar wrote:
Hey, I had a question for you guys. I've been playing iccup recently, and have been keeping a solid D but not advancing over it. Basicly I'm pretty noob at the game. I play every day and have a real desire to get better, but something that constantly plagues me is how I feel after losing. At most I can play three games in a row, and if 2 are loses I get too angry to play anymore, and I'm sure I could be doing much better if I could overcome this. I was wondering if any of you had any tips or tricks for overcoming the dissapointment/anger after a loss. Thanks!


This is pretty much the opposite of myself. If I win a bunch of games in a row and hit a new rank, or play an exceptionally long game and win, I tend to take a 'break' and just bask in my glory. When I lose, I always play more. I usually don't stop at a loss, but that can be a benefit, you don't want to play when your frustrated or angry, as you'll play bad.

Like Chill said, get over your stats [if that's what you're fretting about]. If you're embarrassed because your friends will cut you up for your bad record [if you have friends like that], I would suggest making using a smurf?
stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
April 14 2009 04:39 GMT
#56
sometimes you should take your mind off from playing so competitively 1v1. I know you play casually (i'm assuming since you are not at B~A level), but the fact that you are playing on iccup means you want some competition and some fun at the same time.

What I do sometimes is play fastest on east server. it helps me get my mind off of the build orders, expansion timings and whatnot... you need to relax your "I MUST WIN THIS OMG" mindset. and enjoy some other types of games (like fastest)

If you don't play fastest, then play ums, or team games :D
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Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
April 14 2009 05:05 GMT
#57
I actually have a friend who gets pretty worked up when he loses at video games. I don't really get it.
Sometimes I can identify, if it's lose upon lose upon lose, but even then it quickly passes.

You just need to have a good attitude. A loss will teach you how to get better. You just want to learn from each loss. Just be calm, and rational. If you're watching the replay, take note of things like "Oh man, his army was all over the place. I got flanked like mad there. I guess I need to control my army better and do better micro".

But again, it's all attitude. Learn to enjoy the thrill of a challenge. Some of my funnest games were ones where I got schooled by Koreans, because I had to try my absolute best. Just have fun while you're playing. You probably shouldn't be playing if it's zero fun for you, and only a pain in the ass.
FUCKING GAY LAGS
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
April 14 2009 05:08 GMT
#58
On April 14 2009 09:34 Terranist wrote:
i don't think that it is so much the stats that angers people as it is the cheese. standard games are always pleasant, win or lose, but losing to some smartass who 4pooled and talked shit after winning makes me want to call it quits.

standard games i can understand being frustrated by because you couldn't stop his 3rd/4th gas etc, but that is more motivation to play and improve.

Wow, do you really get that upset over a 4 pooler that talks shit?

Bm is everywhere. I get more upset about a sick korean zerg who crushes me with sick defiler play when I'm playing my absolute best and had an early game advantage. That's just deflating. Takes everything out of you, sort of how I can imagine going to korea for a foreigner would be. I'm amazed idra has had the will power to keep at it. When you have a pretty solid understanding of the game, it sucks getting raped by people who are just flat better than you. Makes you feel "too slow" for this game.

At this point I like being cheesed because generally I can win. This is because my micro is very very strong while my multitask and late game is very weak(i play on a really shitty laptop + I'm not that fast at all = low apm). I think your frustration really stems from your inability to micro against a 4 pool properly(aka - high level scv micro). Try getting a friend to 4 pool you while you do a standard build (11 rax --> scout). You'll find that after 10 games of it or so youll be much more comfortable, and loses against them will be much less frustrating because youll be able to see THE EXACT reason why.

Shitty misclicks and things like that also suck real bad, but thats all part of the game.


If you think bw is frustrating, try poker. Good god. Nothing is more aggrevating then when some cocky donk whos talking big because hes on a lucky streak. Specially when you get poc aces, get them all in with their fucking 2/5 offsuit or something like that and a 2/5 flops. Then you rage quit while the retarded donk smiles thinking hes sooooo good at poker.

Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7584 Posts
April 14 2009 06:11 GMT
#59
I have a completely meaningless name that I use to troll play/obs on east.

I haven't been able to play good for about 3 weeks now (no clue why) like everything I do feels off, my apm is lower, my reaction time and scouting is horrible ... basicly I just got worse. So I've been playing play obs. I've gone 49~ and 5 in the last week just playing 5-7 games a day and maybe 2-3 iccup. It has helped me relax about winning and start having fun again.

Also playing in those games if you choose to go into the mindset of "I can't play serious, 95% will be hacking of the 95% that are hacking 85% will talk shit and 100% won't be very good" then you just try weird/random shit and have a fucking blast doing it.

This will not help you play better. AT ALL.
tarpman
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada723 Posts
April 14 2009 06:12 GMT
#60
I have a similar question: what do you do in this situation if you're the kind of person who gets depressed when frustrated, rather than angry? When I start racking up a bunch of losses in a row I start feeling hopeless and my play gets a lot worse, as if I've stopped trying. I take a break for a day or a few, but when I try again I still remember that my last few games were all losses, so it doesn't usually help. Anyone have tips on getting out of that kind of rut?

things I've tried:
* not playing for a few days (just get rusty and less confident)
* practicing builds for a few days (promptly get owned by an unexpected build)
* beating comps/noobs (get less confident, feel certain I can't beat any non-noob)
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