EPTAccepting a loss.
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Lexpar
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
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Solidus_315
213 Posts
Think about it this way. A loss will teach you more about Starcraft than a win. | ||
Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
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StRyKeR
United States1739 Posts
The feeling after losing is hard to describe, and the exact nature is probably different for every player. For me, the bad feeling is the belief that I "could have" won the game, that the opponent won because "he got lucky" or had a "dumb strategy" that a D+ noob could have pulled off but won because "I wasn't looking for two seconds". I don't think I've gotten over it yet completely, but I've been more at ease as of late. #1 One thing that helps is to pinpoint exactly why you lost. If this is a difficult step, then you're still not accepting the loss. The most recent game I lost, I was upset because I was ahead most game, but I saw the replay and objectively saw that there were a number of improvements I can definitely make. Try to be objective and point out one thing you can improve for next time instead of brooding over whether you deserved the win. It will make your mind at ease and also improve your game. #2 Scout better. Most excuses that "he got lucky" can be solved by scouting better. Instead of crying about getting 3hat ling rushed, send out an extra probe. Keep your first probe alive longer. Send out two extra probes. Make up for your weaknesses instead of crying about opponents that take advantage of them. Finally, ask yourself, if you're really "better than that", why did you lose? Was it luck? In rare circumstances, it is due to luck, such as a 5 pool against your 14cc. However, even in those cases, there is a solution -- don't 14cc. You lost for a legitimate reason, and it means you have areas to improve. Accept your weaknesses and find solutions to them. Savior has short fingers so he only uses hotkeys 1, 2, 3, and maybe 4. Did that stop him? I don't think he cried imba about his short fingers. He has low APM but I imagine he has some of the best mouse-rectangle-draw-click micro in the world to manage his army. | ||
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Lexpar
1813 Posts
Edit: The above post was exactly the type of information I was looking for, thanks. | ||
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
standard games i can understand being frustrated by because you couldn't stop his 3rd/4th gas etc, but that is more motivation to play and improve. | ||
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
Meaning, I usually wind up playing another 10 games in rage completly neglecting the thoughts of why I'm losing in the first place. Which in the end means I lose another 10 games  So yeah, if you lose two or three games in a row. Just pause, get a drink, browse TL.net, then dig up the replays. Go through them, try to find out what you're doing wrong. Which can work as a motivational thing, like "Okay I screwed this and that up, but next game I'll think about it and it'll improve my play and my chances to win". Other than that I don't really know any other advice. Accepting losses can be a bitch ;O | ||
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StRyKeR
United States1739 Posts
How a person handles his bad beats is quite revealing about his character. Rekrul said that tilting is caused by insecurities. He says dumb things a lot but I give him credit because it's true. Any time you feel the need to "prove" yourself, you're being insecure and wanting attention. If someone cracks your Aces with 2-7 offsuit and laughs about it, how do you react? Do you get pissed off and leave the table? If you think about it, you should be happy. You should be ECSTATIC. Here is a player who's obviously a VERY bad player, and he just revealed a MAJOR weakness. You should BEG for him to stay at your table and play more hands with him because you will win 90% of your games! Recently, I lost two games in a row to someone on Destination, ZvT. He did the typical 8-rax 1fac 1star total gayness strat that terrans love to do. Initially, I thought, 'Wtf terrans have it so ez', but then I had to say, he pulled it off pretty well. After all, he beat me. He was pretty clever about it I have to admit. But as I recalled the game, I remembered that he had poor macro and there were a few other weaknesses I could exploit. I played him three more times, and I won all three. Kind of like Jaedong vs. Fantasy 2-3 comeback. Once I learned how to deal with his mech builds I stopped losing. If I hadn't cooled down after those two losses and looked for ways to deal with it, I wouldn't have been able to win. | ||
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
so they've built up this idea of how they're going to play in their head, but then in the actual game they don't play as well | ||
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Racenilatr
United States2756 Posts
1. /Clearstats YES 2. Bash D noobs until D+ 3. repeat | ||
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
Just stop and play the next day after you lose a few games, because I find you get more concentrated on winning than just playing the game, and you end up making stupid mistakes or just playing poorly. | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
Now to facilitate this, play on a smurf. It's understandable that people don't want to be judged based on what rank their account is, so play on a smurf no one knows so that you don't care what your record is. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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StRyKeR
United States1739 Posts
In a thread here, it's EXTREMELY rare for EVERY post to be useful to you. Don't take the many unhelpful and half-assed one-liner posts as indicative of this website as a whole. If you sift through the crap you'll definitely find some gems. | ||
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alt.tday
United States180 Posts
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hixhix
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jeddus
United States832 Posts
Just try to focus on the positive. I would say more than that, but really that is all there is to it. If there was no positive in the loss, then just shrug it off and play another game or a different game. | ||
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ZerglingShepherd
Canada99 Posts
But I think if you stop, take a 5 minute break, and just logically think it through, that the loss you just took wont matter in the long run, and that you can only get better from the experience if you choose to do so, it really helps to calmly move on and keep playing in a good temper. | ||
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RobRoy2501
United States177 Posts
2. Watch the replay. Don't go to a certain point to find why you lost the game. Watch the whole replay, look over everything you did. 3. Play your next game against D- :D 4. Find something on youtube or some video that is soothing to you. Watch/listen to it while you go over the game in your head. 5. Wait 10 minutes. | ||
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
On April 14 2009 10:11 jeddus wrote: I don't think too many people are getting that this is not a "stats" issue, it is a sports psychology issue with handling defeat. you hit it on the head. nobody likes losing, starcraft is no different. sometimes you just have to accept that people will outplay you. look at the progamers for example, even boxer is a lifetime 60%. | ||
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
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rredtooth
5459 Posts
On April 14 2009 09:43 StRyKeR wrote: love the way you sort of snuck in a comparison between you and jaedong there.Recently, I lost two games in a row to someone on Destination, ZvT. He did the typical 8-rax 1fac 1star total gayness strat that terrans love to do. Initially, I thought, 'Wtf terrans have it so ez', but then I had to say, he pulled it off pretty well. After all, he beat me. He was pretty clever about it I have to admit. But as I recalled the game, I remembered that he had poor macro and there were a few other weaknesses I could exploit. I played him three more times, and I won all three. Kind of like Jaedong vs. Fantasy 2-3 comeback. Once I learned how to deal with his mech builds I stopped losing. If I hadn't cooled down after those two losses and looked for ways to deal with it, I wouldn't have been able to win. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
so crap people take the other 40% make sense right? plus i've noticed that starcraft has the highest level of play online because it is an RTS FPS online such as counterstrike and Halo 3 have less skilled players online. you just spray and pray and you'll get better once you learn all the controls... Edit: no offense to pro FPS players, i really don't think it boils to down skill as much as RTS, a lotta luck is involved | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Zurles
United Kingdom1659 Posts
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
Try listening to some Queen music, like "Don't Stop Me Now". Then you'll probably feel better. :D | ||
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
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Tyrant
Korea (South)234 Posts
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MESSIAS1992
Germany4 Posts
473656104möchte auch gerne in einem Clan spielen,weis aber nicht wie man da jemand kontaktieren kann  lg =) | ||
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Sadist
United States7228 Posts
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
On April 14 2009 10:59 MESSIAS1992 wrote: Ich schreib einfach mal überall rein ^^ wenn hier einer is,der mir ein bisschen was zu dem ganzen erklären kann,dann addet mich biiiitöö 473656104möchte auch gerne in einem Clan spielen,weis aber nicht wie man da jemand kontaktieren kann lg =) Or you can speak English so most of us can understand -.- But yeah, I usually only get annoyed with several losses in a row when points matter when I played not up to my standard. If the games aren't worth anything I only get annoyed when I don't play up to my standard. Lol I have had many days (mmannyyy days) where I have not won a single game. The more games you play the more you lose pretty well (not win/loss %, just basically that you will never always win if you continue to play people your level/slightly better than you). You'll get over it. | ||
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
On April 14 2009 11:08 RaiZ wrote: Not really. All player dependant. You can play your best and still losing and learn nothing from the replay and yet you can learn something against another player where you won. You simply need to stop overeacting and get your balls on to watch the rep and see where you're doing wrong. If not, no matter how much you lose or play you won't learn anything. Already got like 2 days almost full of loses which give me rank from c- to D (almost d-) cauz i was playing blindly. How to overcome it ? Take a break, read some forum, take a bath, get back on sc and watch rep and see where you can improve. If not, play another game ONLY if you feel like it. There's no need to play when you're playing like a machine. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13005 Posts
Unless you're some sort of psycho with an inferiority complex. | ||
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Freyr
United States500 Posts
On April 14 2009 10:05 arb wrote: calm the fuck down On April 12 2009 03:06 arb wrote: who is this? http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/galatea.html http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=10469 yeah i got mad at the end >< Exactly, "calm the fuck down." Why exactly are you posting in this thread? To the OP - I don't think all that many people can play large numbers of games back to back even if they don't get angry. SC is a very difficult game to play when you're pushing your limits and even a single match can be taxing. When you get frustrated, just take a break and do something that relaxes you, as many others have suggested (I endorse the Queen idea). Eventually what you'll probably find happening is that as soon as you're relaxed you start thinking about the game again, and analyzing what went wrong, and so you have to get back in another game and try to fix it the next time. | ||
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Sirakor
Great Britain455 Posts
On April 14 2009 09:32 StRyKeR wrote: It's something that affects all players, though in different degrees. The feeling after losing is hard to describe, and the exact nature is probably different for every player. For me, the bad feeling is the belief that I "could have" won the game, that the opponent won because "he got lucky" or had a "dumb strategy" that a D+ noob could have pulled off but won because "I wasn't looking for two seconds". I don't think I've gotten over it yet completely, but I've been more at ease as of late. #1 One thing that helps is to pinpoint exactly why you lost. If this is a difficult step, then you're still not accepting the loss. The most recent game I lost, I was upset because I was ahead most game, but I saw the replay and objectively saw that there were a number of improvements I can definitely make. Try to be objective and point out one thing you can improve for next time instead of brooding over whether you deserved the win. It will make your mind at ease and also improve your game. #2 Scout better. Most excuses that "he got lucky" can be solved by scouting better. Instead of crying about getting 3hat ling rushed, send out an extra probe. Keep your first probe alive longer. Send out two extra probes. Make up for your weaknesses instead of crying about opponents that take advantage of them. Finally, ask yourself, if you're really "better than that", why did you lose? Was it luck? In rare circumstances, it is due to luck, such as a 5 pool against your 14cc. However, even in those cases, there is a solution -- don't 14cc. You lost for a legitimate reason, and it means you have areas to improve. Accept your weaknesses and find solutions to them. Savior has short fingers so he only uses hotkeys 1, 2, 3, and maybe 4. Did that stop him? I don't think he cried imba about his short fingers. He has low APM but I imagine he has some of the best mouse-rectangle-draw-click micro in the world to manage his army. Exactly this. See it as an opportunity. Every loss should have taught you something. Every loss should've made you a little better - if only in understanding of the game while you train your mechanics. It's about the right mindset. If you win, you learn nothing. It doesn't mean you're good, it doesn't mean your strategy/execution/etc rocks, it just means that your opponent sucked even harder. At D level anyways. | ||
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StRyKeR
United States1739 Posts
On April 14 2009 10:30 redtooth wrote: love the way you sort of snuck in a comparison between you and jaedong there. If you want me to header it with "warning: brag post" I can do that. In any case, I do think there are points he could take away from the post. | ||
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Red.Cloud
Canada235 Posts
On April 14 2009 09:21 Lexpar wrote: Hey, I had a question for you guys. I've been playing iccup recently, and have been keeping a solid D but not advancing over it. Basicly I'm pretty noob at the game. I play every day and have a real desire to get better, but something that constantly plagues me is how I feel after losing. At most I can play three games in a row, and if 2 are loses I get too angry to play anymore, and I'm sure I could be doing much better if I could overcome this. I was wondering if any of you had any tips or tricks for overcoming the dissapointment/anger after a loss. Thanks! lol i got same problem, if i lose to anyone, i get super pissed and just want to kill everyone o0, best thing to do is just take a break, talk to someone else about something else, just remove yourself from the game also think of that ladder like this, your paying your pts to learn from someone better when u lose, when you win, its the opposite | ||
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R3condite
Korea (South)1541 Posts
it's just a game, have fun | ||
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Phyre
United States1288 Posts
Treat each loss as a lesson, telling you where you're game is weak so you can correct it later. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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Wonders
Australia753 Posts
Works for me. | ||
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LaLuSh
Sweden2358 Posts
I get pissed. So I keep asking for regames until i figure the (supposed) noob opponent out, or until I've learned to correct my mistakes and/or improve my timing based on where it fails against his build. If I don't get a regame though... I can become really pissed. I can't stop playing until I've calmed down. Which usually is after I stop screwing up or start winning a couple of games. If an opponent is clearly superior to me I don't get mad though. It's strange. But you learn to recognize when you're outclassed as opposed to outcheesed etc. | ||
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Exteray
United States1094 Posts
On April 14 2009 10:05 arb wrote: calm the fuck down Reference to Jaedong VS Bisu on Blue Storm? | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
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alexpnd
Canada1857 Posts
 I think it was Chill who said separate yourself for a bit and come back to it after a while you'll be fine ... and maybe laugh at the issue. gl hf | ||
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404.Delirium
United States1190 Posts
On April 14 2009 09:30 Chill wrote: Get over your stats. After that it becomes pretty easy to just keep playing. This. When I get losses on my main account I will go on a tilt. I now almost NEVER play on my main account, but play on silly smurfs. The fact that I'm not trying to make an image and just playing the game allows me to play far better and, for me, more aggressive. When I get really frustrated I'll activate caps lock, spam /f m a little bit then find a way to laugh about it. If you're getting really frustrated and just can't seem to play anymore, I can ALWAYS benefit (oftentimes in ways that help my main race that I would've never gotten just "toughing it out"). Personally I have a smurf for each race, then one I just fuck around on. Makes the games a lot less meaningful and easy to play. Then once I start dropping games going from C- to C I clear stats and stomp noobs!... I'm getting nowhere fast | ||
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Day[9]
United States7366 Posts
embrace anger such a great emotion (as long as you don't direct it at anybody, including yourself!) | ||
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KO_SharpMind
Canada277 Posts
After a lose i just tend to look at the replay and see where i went wrong, as day[9] said, embrace anger, sometimes it can make you play even better or motivate you to go on to the next level and evolve into a better person. Reflect on your loses, or take a break, let yourself cool down, refresh your mind and be calm for the next match is about to begin and a calm mind is victorious over a frustrated one. | ||
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Tom Phoenix
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
Just watch the replay, that's what I do. I had the same problem as you did because I tried to continuously play one game after another. Take a little time, watch the replay, think about the game, and then play again. You'll get better faster this way | ||
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Not_Computer
Canada2277 Posts
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On April 14 2009 09:21 Lexpar wrote: Hey, I had a question for you guys. I've been playing iccup recently, and have been keeping a solid D but not advancing over it. Basicly I'm pretty noob at the game. I play every day and have a real desire to get better, but something that constantly plagues me is how I feel after losing. At most I can play three games in a row, and if 2 are loses I get too angry to play anymore, and I'm sure I could be doing much better if I could overcome this. I was wondering if any of you had any tips or tricks for overcoming the dissapointment/anger after a loss. Thanks! This is pretty much the opposite of myself. If I win a bunch of games in a row and hit a new rank, or play an exceptionally long game and win, I tend to take a 'break' and just bask in my glory. When I lose, I always play more. I usually don't stop at a loss, but that can be a benefit, you don't want to play when your frustrated or angry, as you'll play bad. Like Chill said, get over your stats [if that's what you're fretting about]. If you're embarrassed because your friends will cut you up for your bad record [if you have friends like that], I would suggest making using a smurf? | ||
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stalife
Canada1222 Posts
What I do sometimes is play fastest on east server. it helps me get my mind off of the build orders, expansion timings and whatnot... you need to relax your "I MUST WIN THIS OMG" mindset. and enjoy some other types of games (like fastest) If you don't play fastest, then play ums, or team games :D | ||
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Ronald_McD
Canada807 Posts
Sometimes I can identify, if it's lose upon lose upon lose, but even then it quickly passes. You just need to have a good attitude. A loss will teach you how to get better. You just want to learn from each loss. Just be calm, and rational. If you're watching the replay, take note of things like "Oh man, his army was all over the place. I got flanked like mad there. I guess I need to control my army better and do better micro". But again, it's all attitude. Learn to enjoy the thrill of a challenge. Some of my funnest games were ones where I got schooled by Koreans, because I had to try my absolute best. Just have fun while you're playing. You probably shouldn't be playing if it's zero fun for you, and only a pain in the ass. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On April 14 2009 09:34 Terranist wrote: i don't think that it is so much the stats that angers people as it is the cheese. standard games are always pleasant, win or lose, but losing to some smartass who 4pooled and talked shit after winning makes me want to call it quits. standard games i can understand being frustrated by because you couldn't stop his 3rd/4th gas etc, but that is more motivation to play and improve. Wow, do you really get that upset over a 4 pooler that talks shit? Bm is everywhere. I get more upset about a sick korean zerg who crushes me with sick defiler play when I'm playing my absolute best and had an early game advantage. That's just deflating. Takes everything out of you, sort of how I can imagine going to korea for a foreigner would be. I'm amazed idra has had the will power to keep at it. When you have a pretty solid understanding of the game, it sucks getting raped by people who are just flat better than you. Makes you feel "too slow" for this game. At this point I like being cheesed because generally I can win. This is because my micro is very very strong while my multitask and late game is very weak(i play on a really shitty laptop + I'm not that fast at all = low apm). I think your frustration really stems from your inability to micro against a 4 pool properly(aka - high level scv micro). Try getting a friend to 4 pool you while you do a standard build (11 rax --> scout). You'll find that after 10 games of it or so youll be much more comfortable, and loses against them will be much less frustrating because youll be able to see THE EXACT reason why. Shitty misclicks and things like that also suck real bad, but thats all part of the game. If you think bw is frustrating, try poker. Good god. Nothing is more aggrevating then when some cocky donk whos talking big because hes on a lucky streak. Specially when you get poc aces, get them all in with their fucking 2/5 offsuit or something like that and a 2/5 flops. Then you rage quit while the retarded donk smiles thinking hes sooooo good at poker. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
I haven't been able to play good for about 3 weeks now (no clue why) like everything I do feels off, my apm is lower, my reaction time and scouting is horrible ... basicly I just got worse. So I've been playing play obs. I've gone 49~ and 5 in the last week just playing 5-7 games a day and maybe 2-3 iccup. It has helped me relax about winning and start having fun again. Also playing in those games if you choose to go into the mindset of "I can't play serious, 95% will be hacking of the 95% that are hacking 85% will talk shit and 100% won't be very good" then you just try weird/random shit and have a fucking blast doing it. This will not help you play better. AT ALL. | ||
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tarpman
Canada718 Posts
things I've tried: * not playing for a few days (just get rusty and less confident) * practicing builds for a few days (promptly get owned by an unexpected build) * beating comps/noobs (get less confident, feel certain I can't beat any non-noob) | ||
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pat965
Canada274 Posts
I just won a game against a zerg, but watching the replay, he had around 10 THOUSAND minerals at the end, and seeing as he destroyed 2 of my expansions and I only won because he didn't have many hatcheries to use all those minerals, I wanted to rip my face off. I try to learn from every game, what I learned from that game is that my timing is non-existent and I can't defend my expansions properly (Yes I'm D) | ||
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
When you win it's because you made less errors than ur opponent, not that he sucked ffs. And last, maybe that's jsut me but i learn a lot more when i'm winning rather than losing. Maybe it's because i've played shit tons of games and know already my errors.. But can't overcome them cauz i'm getting frustrated. Whereas when i'm winning i get better and better, even doing better builds than the previous game. So you should stop this "loss = experience win = nothing" | ||
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alien3456
United States115 Posts
On April 14 2009 16:13 RaiZ wrote: And last, maybe that's jsut me but i learn a lot more when i'm winning rather than losing. Maybe it's because i've played shit tons of games and know already my errors.. But can't overcome them cauz i'm getting frustrated. Whereas when i'm winning i get better and better, even doing better builds than the previous game. When you're constantly winning and "getting better builds than the previous game", your opponent is just letting a fool persist in his folly. Though he's less skilled than you, he learns more from losing than you do from improving pre-existing strategies. I've played several competitive games, and each time I was on a very good team. We'd go on long winning streaks and come to think that we were the best, and that our gameplay was flawless and improving each time. And every time, a better team comes along, stomps our strategies into the ground and shatters our egos. Then it comes time to realize; I'm not flawless, I could be doing things differently, and I have to learn what I can do to become a better player. The only way to come to that point is by losing. I suggest anyone who gets really frustrated by losses just try to stick to players of your own skill level. If someone is clearly much stronger than you, don't play them again until you're ready. If someone is much weaker than you, you will learn absolutely nothing by playing them. If you play someone and it turns out to be a fairly challenging and close game, keep in contact with them and play them often. | ||
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DarkShadowz
Sweden321 Posts
The worst thing that can happen is that you get annoyed as you said yourself, that limit your thinking and you loose track of things. If you don't know how to counter something or how to improve just sit down and think about it or watch the replay over and over again. I try not to play a new game untill I know what I should have done differently in the previous game. Good luck! | ||
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extracheez
Australia151 Posts
My only consolation is every game I play I tell myself "I'm going to win this", every time I get an advantage I tell myself "I'm going to use this to win", every time I get a disadvantage I tell myself "I'm going to find away to win this" and every time I lose I ask "How could I have won?". And then I get 4 pooled on python while doing a 1rax fe and rage quit. :D | ||
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YoUr_KiLLeR
United States3420 Posts
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iD.NicKy
France767 Posts
On April 14 2009 09:32 Lexpar wrote: It's not about my stats, I can accept if I dip into D- one day because I know Il be back up at D by the next, its just that I find it so frustrating to lose. I know everyone does, but I was really hoping you guys could help me out with tips to get over the frustration. Edit: The above post was exactly the type of information I was looking for, thanks. Yes it's about stats and proud, you can't accept you're only C- max and don't want to reach your limits. This is just an exemple, but just play to improve not reaching the next rank.. | ||
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WhuazGoodJaggah
Lesotho777 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
That's the most precious feeling you can derive from BW. One time, i maxed out at 12 min 10s and attacked moved a B ranked opponent to death, this is after losing to the guy countless time beforehand. | ||
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Mobius
Canada1268 Posts
On April 14 2009 09:24 Terranist wrote: aside from stop losing, the best advice i can give is to find some friends at your skill level and play them constantly. it doesn't hurt as much when you lose to a friend that you can beat consistently compared to losing to some guy that proxy gated you on destination. this- always helps honestly. | ||
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stk01001
United States786 Posts
i don't know why people care about losing so much.. they like are so scared to lose or something... it's really stupid.. | ||
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Shiva_Chandra
Denmark341 Posts
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Strayline
United States330 Posts
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
On April 14 2009 09:30 Chill wrote: Get over your stats. After that it becomes pretty easy to just keep playing. ^ Best comment. Who the fuck cares about a 10-0 record if you didn't learn anything? I'd rather have a 0-100 if I learned something about playing. And besides, you can just make a new account when you're Olympic rank and go nuts o_O | ||
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YoUr_KiLLeR
United States3420 Posts
On April 15 2009 00:07 stk01001 wrote: you need to just stop caring about losing.... i can lose 10 games in a row and not have it phase me at this point.. just look at it as training.. i don't know why people care about losing so much.. they like are so scared to lose or something... it's really stupid.. On April 15 2009 01:03 Equinox_kr wrote: ^ Best comment. Who the fuck cares about a 10-0 record if you didn't learn anything? I'd rather have a 0-100 if I learned something about playing. And besides, you can just make a new account when you're Olympic rank and go nuts o_O you guys are all missing the point. this isnt about stats. and no one at the top of any form of competition is perfectly fine with losing. if you dont hate losing, you dont care enough about winning. | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
On April 15 2009 03:12 Bosu wrote: The only thing that pisses me off is when people turtle up and make games last way longer than they should. I don't have a problem with losing though. I usually find and fix mistakes from all of my losses. That's why I love playing Protoss. You can always go ForU style 50+ Gateways, rally them to the middle and 1a2a3a4a5a until they go extinct. On a serious note: You SHOULD be upset when you lose. I know I am. (I just don't seem to care enough about improving anymore so I don't put in the time watching replays / picking my mistakes apart like I used to). You should be angry when you lose in a fail-tacular way, too. However, you should also deal with it. There's no other option. Feed from the anger! Make your next opponent know that "this rank ain't fucking with you" ! That's how you get better. | ||
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Lexpar
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cz
United States3249 Posts
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On April 15 2009 02:58 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote: you guys are all missing the point. this isnt about stats. and no one at the top of any form of competition is perfectly fine with losing. if you dont hate losing, you dont care enough about winning. Where are you infering that from? From the OP it's pretty ambiguous, so I'm not sure how we're missing the point. | ||
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HaFnium
United Kingdom1074 Posts
I would quit everytime before my opponent (when i know im winning), so my stats will look poor. Then in my profile I put "to lose is to learn" Now of course I have been controlling myself more so it isnt needed... I got really frustrated when ppl refuses to re-game. But you can always think of what you could have done better in game. | ||
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sexsexpussyhair
Canada133 Posts
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Reason
United Kingdom2770 Posts
On April 15 2009 05:39 Chill wrote: Where are you infering that from? From the OP it's pretty ambiguous, so I'm not sure how we're missing the point. I'm not so sure it's ambiguous at all. He quite clearly states he is D rank and a noob so he is obviously not expecting to have good stats. He also specifically asks for ways to deal with the anger/disappointment following a loss, and does not mention /clearstats like half the posts here. edit:Certainly on iccup there is a greater tendency to care a LOT about record due to the ranking system, points, win/loss ratio etc, but even then I really don't think that's what this guy's concern is. He just doesn't like losing. Just like me! ( I care a LOT about rank/stats and your comment would have 100% applied if I created this thread, but I almost certainly would have bitched about massive win/loss streaks and their psychological effect on me, not just the general anger when I lose a game )I think the best answers have been along the lines of using your anger as motivation. Try to keep it a more WTFNOWAY NOW YOU DIE anger as opposed to FML anger. | ||
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Pufftrees
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dhe95
United States1213 Posts
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YoUr_KiLLeR
United States3420 Posts
On April 15 2009 05:39 Chill wrote: Where are you infering that from? From the OP it's pretty ambiguous, so I'm not sure how we're missing the point. oh not from the OP. i thought the same thing you did from the OP but he posted a couple more times about it. so yea, referring to the posts after those. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
Btw - the great thing about the iCCup system is that if you lose more than you win, you can still advance to A-. I always try to think stats don't matter, and try not to give up and reset. No one cares about your stats, you can't even see them in a game. | ||
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