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On October 26 2012 07:55 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 07:35 n0ah wrote:
There is a pretty big difference between 30fps and 60fps while watching a stream (playing it is a different matter). But as someone mentioned earlier, I don't think that everyone is physically capable of noticing it. But correct me if I'm wrong, the human eye is not capable of seeing anything past 60fos (in terms of improvement) anyways. I use FFsplit without a capture card, and I am capable of streaming at 720p @60fps with relatively little to no performance hit. It takes about 500fps or so to get to reality perfect, but the question isn't how many FPS can the eye see. Easy test. Wave your mouse around. Youll notice the mouse only appears in several places with easily viewable distances between them. A 120hz will double the amount of cursor points you will see. Also the CPU still has to capture the screen, the card handles the encoding for you.
Only if you use hardware encoding.
Which is shit. Vastly, dramatically inferior to software encoding in performance.
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On October 26 2012 10:14 WTFZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 07:55 Medrea wrote:On October 26 2012 07:35 n0ah wrote:
There is a pretty big difference between 30fps and 60fps while watching a stream (playing it is a different matter). But as someone mentioned earlier, I don't think that everyone is physically capable of noticing it. But correct me if I'm wrong, the human eye is not capable of seeing anything past 60fos (in terms of improvement) anyways. I use FFsplit without a capture card, and I am capable of streaming at 720p @60fps with relatively little to no performance hit. It takes about 500fps or so to get to reality perfect, but the question isn't how many FPS can the eye see. Easy test. Wave your mouse around. Youll notice the mouse only appears in several places with easily viewable distances between them. A 120hz will double the amount of cursor points you will see. Also the CPU still has to capture the screen, the card handles the encoding for you. Only if you use hardware encoding. Which is shit. Vastly, dramatically inferior to software encoding in performance.
You've got me on that one. FFSplit doesnt even give me an option one way or another.
EDIT2: Wow I derped real bad here. I had it backwards. The card is capturing not encoding. Hur Dur capture card not encoding card lullul.
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On October 26 2012 10:19 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 10:14 WTFZerg wrote:On October 26 2012 07:55 Medrea wrote:On October 26 2012 07:35 n0ah wrote:
There is a pretty big difference between 30fps and 60fps while watching a stream (playing it is a different matter). But as someone mentioned earlier, I don't think that everyone is physically capable of noticing it. But correct me if I'm wrong, the human eye is not capable of seeing anything past 60fos (in terms of improvement) anyways. I use FFsplit without a capture card, and I am capable of streaming at 720p @60fps with relatively little to no performance hit. It takes about 500fps or so to get to reality perfect, but the question isn't how many FPS can the eye see. Easy test. Wave your mouse around. Youll notice the mouse only appears in several places with easily viewable distances between them. A 120hz will double the amount of cursor points you will see. Also the CPU still has to capture the screen, the card handles the encoding for you. Only if you use hardware encoding. Which is shit. Vastly, dramatically inferior to software encoding in performance. You've got me on that one. FFSplit doesnt even give me an option one way or another. EDIT2: Wow I derped real bad here. I had it backwards. The card is capturing not encoding. Hur Dur capture card not encoding card lullul.
:D
And yeah, FFsplit does not support capture cards directly just yet. Works nicely with AramecTV (or however you spell it) apparently.
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On October 26 2012 10:33 WTFZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 10:19 Medrea wrote:On October 26 2012 10:14 WTFZerg wrote:On October 26 2012 07:55 Medrea wrote:On October 26 2012 07:35 n0ah wrote:
There is a pretty big difference between 30fps and 60fps while watching a stream (playing it is a different matter). But as someone mentioned earlier, I don't think that everyone is physically capable of noticing it. But correct me if I'm wrong, the human eye is not capable of seeing anything past 60fos (in terms of improvement) anyways. I use FFsplit without a capture card, and I am capable of streaming at 720p @60fps with relatively little to no performance hit. It takes about 500fps or so to get to reality perfect, but the question isn't how many FPS can the eye see. Easy test. Wave your mouse around. Youll notice the mouse only appears in several places with easily viewable distances between them. A 120hz will double the amount of cursor points you will see. Also the CPU still has to capture the screen, the card handles the encoding for you. Only if you use hardware encoding. Which is shit. Vastly, dramatically inferior to software encoding in performance. You've got me on that one. FFSplit doesnt even give me an option one way or another. EDIT2: Wow I derped real bad here. I had it backwards. The card is capturing not encoding. Hur Dur capture card not encoding card lullul. :D And yeah, FFsplit does not support capture cards directly just yet. Works nicely with AramecTV (or however you spell it) apparently.
yes yes FFsplit does NOT at the moment. Or at least not this one. Friend of mine tried it and it just crashes immediately.
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On October 26 2012 11:23 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 10:33 WTFZerg wrote:On October 26 2012 10:19 Medrea wrote:On October 26 2012 10:14 WTFZerg wrote:On October 26 2012 07:55 Medrea wrote:On October 26 2012 07:35 n0ah wrote:
There is a pretty big difference between 30fps and 60fps while watching a stream (playing it is a different matter). But as someone mentioned earlier, I don't think that everyone is physically capable of noticing it. But correct me if I'm wrong, the human eye is not capable of seeing anything past 60fos (in terms of improvement) anyways. I use FFsplit without a capture card, and I am capable of streaming at 720p @60fps with relatively little to no performance hit. It takes about 500fps or so to get to reality perfect, but the question isn't how many FPS can the eye see. Easy test. Wave your mouse around. Youll notice the mouse only appears in several places with easily viewable distances between them. A 120hz will double the amount of cursor points you will see. Also the CPU still has to capture the screen, the card handles the encoding for you. Only if you use hardware encoding. Which is shit. Vastly, dramatically inferior to software encoding in performance. You've got me on that one. FFSplit doesnt even give me an option one way or another. EDIT2: Wow I derped real bad here. I had it backwards. The card is capturing not encoding. Hur Dur capture card not encoding card lullul. :D And yeah, FFsplit does not support capture cards directly just yet. Works nicely with AramecTV (or however you spell it) apparently. yes yes FFsplit does NOT at the moment. Or at least not this one. Friend of mine tried it and it just crashes immediately.
From what I understand if you use AmarecTV in tandem with FFsplit it works just fine. By itself, FFsplit does not play well with capture cards.
http://www.ffsplit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=459
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Does it let you use your webcam?
People are saying it can but does it work right?
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On October 26 2012 11:33 Medrea wrote:
Does it let you use your webcam?
People are saying it can but does it work right?
I don't think you can use the overlay system if you're using anything but the FFsplit capture system. I could be wrong though, as I have not played with it my self.
There's a new overlay coming out soon that is much more flexible.
You may be able to set up your webcam through AmarecTV, but I'm not sure.
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Right on Ill let him know.
That being said we are having this weird scaling issue where the stream is overscanned compared to the actual stream. So he can either have as tream thats not the right size or play in an environment thats not the right size.
The FAQ says to just adjust the overscan but thats not a real solution since one is directly linked to the other.
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Just a quick note that hasn't really been mentioned but capture cards are really best suited towards having a second rig to power the stream. If you have a second pc that can handle the encoding you'll be in great shape with a cap card.
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