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Poland8075 Posts
On January 20 2011 04:51 Juicyfruit wrote: zzz, so when you said E scales with phantom dancer...it really doesn't. wat P.dancer Kennen > P.dancer garen i dont need to play op champs to do well and feel good about myself kthx | ||
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
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bosiddon
308 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/vegaobscura7/speed.png) good build or best build | ||
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Masteries: 0 21 9 Runes: Quints: Move Speed Red: Armor Pen Yellow: Health per Level Blue: Magic Resistance per Level Skill Order: QEEWER, R > E > Q >= W Item Build: Boots + 3 HP pots => Giant’s Belt => Sunfire Cape => Merc Tread’s => Pickaxe => Last Whisper => Negatron Cloak => Force of Nature => Phage => Atma’s Impaler => Frozen Mallet Playstyle Laning phase, come out of the brush to do the Q + E combo. Harass whenever possible, otherwise use Q to maximize your last hitting. For an early lane kill, Ghost + Q + E + Ignite, finish with ulti. Late game, use brushes tactically. Q for silencing your target, then team focus fire. Pop W if you draw aggro. While primarily used offensively, E does reduces debuff duration, so retreat using it when necessary. After you max E, alternate between Q and W. W gains Armor/MR based on minion kills. So it’s not ideal to max this last. Be aware of when your Armor/MR gains are near max for that skill level then invest another point into W whenever needed. W is even more essential now that Garen’s survivability has taken a big hit over the last two patches. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On February 02 2011 16:36 rwrzr wrote: has anyone noticed garen punches people as one of his attack animations? no, you are the first | ||
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BouBou.865
Netherlands814 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
EDIT: he used to be high because he hit like a truck without any items that did damage so he could deal insane sustained deeps while being literally impossible to kill. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
Fyi Garen is still almost impossible to kill | ||
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BouBou.865
Netherlands814 Posts
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
Today I learned Tier 4 = T1 | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 10 2011 05:40 BouBou.865 wrote: Mogwai, for as far as I could find, Elementz and Reginald both put him on T1. What would you guys say is the strongest melee dps in the game right now? Xin Zhao? Or just strongest all round. reignofelementz.com is elementz' blog. It has his current teir list. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On February 10 2011 05:40 BouBou.865 wrote: Mogwai, for as far as I could find, Elementz and Reginald both put him on T1. What would you guys say is the strongest melee dps in the game right now? Xin Zhao? Or just strongest all round. Not Garen, He's not even really a dps. Xin Zhao, Warwick, Akali, and Irelia are probably the strongest melee dps. I've seen Master Yi be good as of late but hes really a lot easier to kill than the other 4. Also I don't count pantheon really as a melee dps, he plays more like a melee mage. | ||
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BouBou.865
Netherlands814 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On February 10 2011 05:44 Phrost wrote: Not Garen, He's not even really a dps. Xin Zhao, Warwick, Akali, and Irelia are probably the strongest melee dps. I've seen Master Yi be good as of late but hes really a lot easier to kill than the other 4. Also I don't count pantheon really as a melee dps, he plays more like a melee mage. LOL Akali is Melee DPS is Phrost's book but Panthoen isn't. DERP Irelia is probably better than Xin in good hands (read: Atlanta) aand they're the top 2 guys who are undoubtably Melee DPS IMO. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On February 10 2011 05:54 Mogwai wrote: LOL Akali is Melee DPS is Phrost's book but Panthoen isn't. DERP Irelia is probably better than Xin in good hands (read: Atlanta) aand they're the top 2 guys who are undoubtably Melee DPS IMO. Pantheon doesn't fit what one would expect out of a melee dps because hes more about bursting someone down in his stun or keeping his distance and Qing them to death. I duno you can call Pantheon a melee dps too but it just doesnt feel the same because he sucks at chasing people when his stun is on CD. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On February 10 2011 06:07 Phrost wrote: Pantheon doesn't fit what one would expect out of a melee dps because hes more about bursting someone down in his stun or keeping his distance and Qing them to death. I duno you can call Pantheon a melee dps too but it just doesnt feel the same because he sucks at chasing people when his stun is on CD. O_o unlike akali, who's awesome at it when she's out of Essence of Shadows. Or Xin when Charge is on CD. Or Irelia when Bladesurge is on CD. Most Melee Deep have silly burst, Pantheon's may be higher than most, but Akali's burst is wtf bbq and she's an assassin Mage along the same lines of Kat or LeBlanc more than a Melee Deeps like Xin or Irelia by all accounts. | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
I'd probably only play him vs a few select tops as he is still an average champ, but was wondering what the better players on here have to say. | ||
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