On June 22 2011 01:14 smokeyhoodoo wrote: I find all the historical arguments concerning the legitimate owner of the island to be irrelevant. The U.K. won the war. The spoils go to the winner. That's how this kind of shit has been settled for thousands of years. If Argentina want's the Falklands, they need to declare war again. My advice would be to do it while Labour controls parliament.
Yeah, the dude with a bigger dick and who has more tanks is right.
That has been American motto for the last decades, I don't see why it should change. History has proven that war and big muscles is a great solution to solve problems.
I find it amusing that the french person says this . Pretty sure you needed this military might you speak of so negatively when you were busy being taken over by Germany.
If you don't see the difference between fighting against Nazism and for the freedom of your country and fighting for a nutshell that nobody care about, we are in trouble.
On June 22 2011 01:47 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
On June 22 2011 01:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 22 2011 01:14 smokeyhoodoo wrote: I find all the historical arguments concerning the legitimate owner of the island to be irrelevant. The U.K. won the war. The spoils go to the winner. That's how this kind of shit has been settled for thousands of years. If Argentina want's the Falklands, they need to declare war again. My advice would be to do it while Labour controls parliament.
Yeah, the dude with a bigger dick and who has more tanks is right.
That has been American motto for the last decades, I don't see why it should change. History has proven that war and big muscles is a great solution to solve problems.
I think good old George was talking about you:
More importantly, how could it possibly change? Sorry if that massive dose of reality made your head explode. I won't blame you if you go cry in a corner, having one's world view completely shattered can be quite a traumatic experience.
That's one clever answer dude.
I know, its much better advice than telling Argentina to beg the UN for the Falklands. Is that the strategy you would use? Damn, if I ever have to fight a war, I hope its with the French. In your nations finest moment in terms of military glory you were being lead by a Corsican midget, and lost in the end anyway.
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Well, go learn history, Einstein, and maybe we talk about the fact that Napoleon was one of the greatest conqueror of all times or of the fact that revolutionary armies made of unequipped peasants led by unexperimented revolutionary officers defeated a coalition made of all European powers.
And then , when it's done, we'll talk about the fact that without fucking Lafayette, your country would still be a British colony.
And when all of that is done, we will maybe move to the next step and consider the fact that I can't take credit for wars that have happened two centuries ago and that this prick waving about your country which is betterer because it has more F22 plane is what I was pointing at being plain stupid in the first place.
On June 22 2011 01:14 smokeyhoodoo wrote: I find all the historical arguments concerning the legitimate owner of the island to be irrelevant. The U.K. won the war. The spoils go to the winner. That's how this kind of shit has been settled for thousands of years. If Argentina want's the Falklands, they need to declare war again. My advice would be to do it while Labour controls parliament.
Yeah, the dude with a bigger dick and who has more tanks is right.
That has been American motto for the last decades, I don't see why it should change. History has proven that war and big muscles is a great solution to solve problems.
Dear France:
You're welcome.
signed,
Uncle Sam
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Yeah and Lafayette, and then the Roman Empire, and before that our caveman who...
Why on earth do people keep mentioning France, I am not a representative of my country, for Christ sake. I just happened to be born there.
Probably because you had literally done just the same thing a couple posts before and acted like he was a representative of America just because he was born there.
Really didn't see the hypocrisy in that post before you made it?
On June 22 2011 01:14 smokeyhoodoo wrote: I find all the historical arguments concerning the legitimate owner of the island to be irrelevant. The U.K. won the war. The spoils go to the winner. That's how this kind of shit has been settled for thousands of years. If Argentina want's the Falklands, they need to declare war again. My advice would be to do it while Labour controls parliament.
Yeah, the dude with a bigger dick and who has more tanks is right.
That has been American motto for the last decades, I don't see why it should change. History has proven that war and big muscles is a great solution to solve problems.
Dear France:
You're welcome.
signed,
Uncle Sam
User was warned for this post
Yeah and Lafayette, and then the Roman Empire, and before that our caveman who...
Why on earth do people keep mentioning France, I am not a representative of my country, for Christ sake. I just happened to be born there.
Probably because you had literally done just the same thing a couple posts before and acted like he was a representative of America just because he was born there.
Really didn't see the hypocrisy in that post before you made it?
Yeah right, an American dude coming and saying "the strongest is right" and "war solves stuff, just bomb'em" in today's international context is neutral. My problem is not that US suck or whatever and that therefore it disqualifies what he says (which is what he is doing with me), but that this is a discourse that has been dominant in America's international behavior for decades and which has led to the world becoming a mayhem.
In the one hand, I attack him on a discourse which is typically american, on the other one he answers on who won the most war and therefore is the best nation and therefore is right. There is no "Frenchness" in what I am saying, and I'm not talking in the name of my country.
I seriously don't care about what my country did or did not. I'm not even French in the first place (I'm actually Argentinian) and I don't even live there.
The British dont care about what the Argentinian president says, this place isn't hong kong, what do the people on the Island want? if they are given away by the British (as they see it) what are we doing to them?
On June 22 2011 01:14 smokeyhoodoo wrote: I find all the historical arguments concerning the legitimate owner of the island to be irrelevant. The U.K. won the war. The spoils go to the winner. That's how this kind of shit has been settled for thousands of years. If Argentina want's the Falklands, they need to declare war again. My advice would be to do it while Labour controls parliament.
Yeah, the dude with a bigger dick and who has more tanks is right.
That has been American motto for the last decades, I don't see why it should change. History has proven that war and big muscles is a great solution to solve problems.
Dear France:
You're welcome.
signed,
Uncle Sam
User was warned for this post
Yeah and Lafayette, and then the Roman Empire, and before that our caveman who...
Why on earth do people keep mentioning France, I am not a representative of my country, for Christ sake. I just happened to be born there.
Probably because you had literally done just the same thing a couple posts before and acted like he was a representative of America just because he was born there.
Really didn't see the hypocrisy in that post before you made it?
Yeah right, an American dude coming and saying "the strongest is right" and "war solves stuff, just bomb'em" in today's international context is neutral.
I seriously don't care about what my country did or did not. I'm not even French in the first place (I'm actually Argentinian) and I don't even live there.
Point is, you judged his argument based on where he was from (which is irrelevant), not the merits (or lack-there-of) within the argument itself.
People did the same to you in retort and you started to complain about that. Yeah right.
On June 22 2011 01:14 smokeyhoodoo wrote: I find all the historical arguments concerning the legitimate owner of the island to be irrelevant. The U.K. won the war. The spoils go to the winner. That's how this kind of shit has been settled for thousands of years. If Argentina want's the Falklands, they need to declare war again. My advice would be to do it while Labour controls parliament.
Yeah, the dude with a bigger dick and who has more tanks is right.
That has been American motto for the last decades, I don't see why it should change. History has proven that war and big muscles is a great solution to solve problems.
I find it amusing that the french person says this . Pretty sure you needed this military might you speak of so negatively when you were busy being taken over by Germany.
If you don't see the difference between fighting against Nazism and for the freedom of your country and fighting for a nutshell that nobody care about, we are in trouble.
On June 22 2011 01:47 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
On June 22 2011 01:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 22 2011 01:14 smokeyhoodoo wrote: I find all the historical arguments concerning the legitimate owner of the island to be irrelevant. The U.K. won the war. The spoils go to the winner. That's how this kind of shit has been settled for thousands of years. If Argentina want's the Falklands, they need to declare war again. My advice would be to do it while Labour controls parliament.
Yeah, the dude with a bigger dick and who has more tanks is right.
That has been American motto for the last decades, I don't see why it should change. History has proven that war and big muscles is a great solution to solve problems.
More importantly, how could it possibly change? Sorry if that massive dose of reality made your head explode. I won't blame you if you go cry in a corner, having one's world view completely shattered can be quite a traumatic experience.
That's one clever answer dude.
I know, its much better advice than telling Argentina to beg the UN for the Falklands. Is that the strategy you would use? Damn, if I ever have to fight a war, I hope its with the French. In your nations finest moment in terms of military glory you were being lead by a Corsican midget, and lost in the end anyway.
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This thread is getting a little off topic, I will only make this one post. France has a great military history, by far the greatest enemy England and then Britain has ever known. Take a look at who and what Napoleon had to battle too. Not to mention the fact you wouldnt have won the American war of Independance without their Navy cutting off Cornwallis' supplies. That post is very disrespectful.
I was just screwin around with him, I love France.
On June 22 2011 04:44 CursedRich wrote: The British dont care about what the Argentinian president says, this place isn't hong kong, what do the people on the Island want? if they are given away by the British (as they see it) what are we doing to them?
Pretty much this. If the Falkland Islanders want independence or whatever then that's fine, but if they like being British (and who wouldn't?!), as it would appear, then I certainly don't want some Argentine pushing us around and telling us what to do with land we own and whose inhabitants are willing citizens of our country. We British need to start having a stiff upper lip in these situations.
On June 22 2011 01:14 smokeyhoodoo wrote: I find all the historical arguments concerning the legitimate owner of the island to be irrelevant. The U.K. won the war. The spoils go to the winner. That's how this kind of shit has been settled for thousands of years. If Argentina want's the Falklands, they need to declare war again. My advice would be to do it while Labour controls parliament.
Yeah, the dude with a bigger dick and who has more tanks is right.
That has been American motto for the last decades, I don't see why it should change. History has proven that war and big muscles is a great solution to solve problems.
I find it amusing that the french person says this . Pretty sure you needed this military might you speak of so negatively when you were busy being taken over by Germany.
If you don't see the difference between fighting against Nazism and for the freedom of your country and fighting for a nutshell that nobody care about, we are in trouble.
On June 22 2011 01:47 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
On June 22 2011 01:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 22 2011 01:14 smokeyhoodoo wrote: I find all the historical arguments concerning the legitimate owner of the island to be irrelevant. The U.K. won the war. The spoils go to the winner. That's how this kind of shit has been settled for thousands of years. If Argentina want's the Falklands, they need to declare war again. My advice would be to do it while Labour controls parliament.
Yeah, the dude with a bigger dick and who has more tanks is right.
That has been American motto for the last decades, I don't see why it should change. History has proven that war and big muscles is a great solution to solve problems.
More importantly, how could it possibly change? Sorry if that massive dose of reality made your head explode. I won't blame you if you go cry in a corner, having one's world view completely shattered can be quite a traumatic experience.
That's one clever answer dude.
I know, its much better advice than telling Argentina to beg the UN for the Falklands. Is that the strategy you would use? Damn, if I ever have to fight a war, I hope its with the French. In your nations finest moment in terms of military glory you were being lead by a Corsican midget, and lost in the end anyway.
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This thread is getting a little off topic, I will only make this one post. France has a great military history, by far the greatest enemy England and then Britain has ever known. Take a look at who and what Napoleon had to battle too. Not to mention the fact you wouldnt have won the American war of Independance without their Navy cutting off Cornwallis' supplies. That post is very disrespectful.
I was just screwin around with him, I love France.
I don't know how he got banned and you didn't, especially when a couple of posts later you openly admit to baiting him into a response.
On June 22 2011 01:14 smokeyhoodoo wrote: I find all the historical arguments concerning the legitimate owner of the island to be irrelevant. The U.K. won the war. The spoils go to the winner. That's how this kind of shit has been settled for thousands of years. If Argentina want's the Falklands, they need to declare war again. My advice would be to do it while Labour controls parliament.
Yeah, the dude with a bigger dick and who has more tanks is right.
That has been American motto for the last decades, I don't see why it should change. History has proven that war and big muscles is a great solution to solve problems.
Dear France:
You're welcome.
signed,
Uncle Sam
User was warned for this post
Yeah and Lafayette, and then the Roman Empire, and before that our caveman who...
Why on earth do people keep mentioning France, I am not a representative of my country, for Christ sake. I just happened to be born there.
Probably because you had literally done just the same thing a couple posts before and acted like he was a representative of America just because he was born there.
Really didn't see the hypocrisy in that post before you made it?
Yeah right, an American dude coming and saying "the strongest is right" and "war solves stuff, just bomb'em" in today's international context is neutral. My problem is not that US suck or whatever and that therefore it disqualifies what he says (which is what he is doing with me), but that this is a discourse that has been dominant in America's international behavior for decades and which has led to the world becoming a mayhem.
In the one hand, I attack him on a discourse which is typically american, on the other one he answers on who won the most war and therefore is the best nation and therefore is right. There is no "Frenchness" in what I am saying, and I'm not talking in the name of my country.
I seriously don't care about what my country did or did not. I'm not even French in the first place (I'm actually Argentinian) and I don't even live there.
I never said anything like that about war, you just assumed that. I merely said that war settled the matter. Let me put it in terms you can understand. 1000 men, each unique and of value in this world, DIED to settle the issue of which nation the Falklands belong to, and people have the gall to bring up historical matters in order to revive the issue. Britain won, its theirs. End of story.
On June 22 2011 01:14 smokeyhoodoo wrote: I find all the historical arguments concerning the legitimate owner of the island to be irrelevant. The U.K. won the war. The spoils go to the winner. That's how this kind of shit has been settled for thousands of years. If Argentina want's the Falklands, they need to declare war again. My advice would be to do it while Labour controls parliament.
Yeah, the dude with a bigger dick and who has more tanks is right.
That has been American motto for the last decades, I don't see why it should change. History has proven that war and big muscles is a great solution to solve problems.
I find it amusing that the french person says this . Pretty sure you needed this military might you speak of so negatively when you were busy being taken over by Germany.
If you don't see the difference between fighting against Nazism and for the freedom of your country and fighting for a nutshell that nobody care about, we are in trouble.
On June 22 2011 01:47 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
On June 22 2011 01:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On June 22 2011 01:14 smokeyhoodoo wrote: I find all the historical arguments concerning the legitimate owner of the island to be irrelevant. The U.K. won the war. The spoils go to the winner. That's how this kind of shit has been settled for thousands of years. If Argentina want's the Falklands, they need to declare war again. My advice would be to do it while Labour controls parliament.
Yeah, the dude with a bigger dick and who has more tanks is right.
That has been American motto for the last decades, I don't see why it should change. History has proven that war and big muscles is a great solution to solve problems.
More importantly, how could it possibly change? Sorry if that massive dose of reality made your head explode. I won't blame you if you go cry in a corner, having one's world view completely shattered can be quite a traumatic experience.
That's one clever answer dude.
I know, its much better advice than telling Argentina to beg the UN for the Falklands. Is that the strategy you would use? Damn, if I ever have to fight a war, I hope its with the French. In your nations finest moment in terms of military glory you were being lead by a Corsican midget, and lost in the end anyway.
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This thread is getting a little off topic, I will only make this one post. France has a great military history, by far the greatest enemy England and then Britain has ever known. Take a look at who and what Napoleon had to battle too. Not to mention the fact you wouldnt have won the American war of Independance without their Navy cutting off Cornwallis' supplies. That post is very disrespectful.
I was just screwin around with him, I love France.
I don't know how he got banned and you didn't, especially when a couple of posts later you openly admit to baiting him into a response.
I did no such thing sir. I was screwing with him because of his naivete, and his initiation of hostilities.
On June 22 2011 04:44 CursedRich wrote: The British dont care about what the Argentinian president says, this place isn't hong kong, what do the people on the Island want? if they are given away by the British (as they see it) what are we doing to them?
Pretty much this. If the Falkland Islanders want independence or whatever then that's fine, but if they like being British (and who wouldn't?!), as it would appear, then I certainly don't want some Argentine pushing us around and telling us what to do with land we own and whose inhabitants are willing citizens of our country. We British need to start having a stiff upper lip in these situations.
As someone who was actually there during the conflict i agree. But .... whichever way you paint it war is never ever the answer. It's a truly horrible experience and one I would never like to repeat. Human beings sometimes disgust me.
As a Brit I thought of it at the time (16 years old then btw) That the UK is an island, if we showed weakness and just let them have the Falklands, any old country might turn up and actually try it with UK home soil. Most of the country thought this at the time. There was a massive show of patriotism and when we arrived home "victorious" we were national heroes. (As it should be with any serviceman or woman coming home regardless of result)
Now national pride seems to be an excuse for war, and that makes me terribly sad.
When the falkland islanders ask to be argentinian MAYBE this should be brought up again. Until then they should have the FREEDOM to belong to which every country they wish to that will accept them.
Argentina is basically trying to steal something it isn't entitled too. Any argentinian who thinks 290kms out from your shoreline is your territory is sadly mistaken. You get 12kms as does EVERY OTHER COUNTRY. Deal with it and move on.
To be completely honest perhaps argentina should become spanish territory again. They had it first before argentina was a country..... maybe they should still have it based on the argentinian arguements I have seen in this thread.
Whenever a country brings up a territorial claim with "It is close to us" being one of their big "keys" I want to respond with, "Canada is close to the U.S. so obviously it should be part of it.
On June 22 2011 07:59 graph1k wrote: Whenever a country brings up a territorial claim with "It is close to us" being one of their big "keys" I want to respond with, "Canada is close to the U.S. so obviously it should be part of it.
Note: I would not wish that on your Canadians ♥
You already tried to conquer us, probably for that very reason...I believe we left a bit of a mark on your White House?
On June 22 2011 07:59 graph1k wrote: Whenever a country brings up a territorial claim with "It is close to us" being one of their big "keys" I want to respond with, "Canada is close to the U.S. so obviously it should be part of it.
Note: I would not wish that on your Canadians ♥
You already tried to conquer us, probably for that very reason...I believe we left a bit of a mark on your White House?
That was because of the Brits capturing American ships, forcing our sailors into slavery, restricting trade, and paying Indians to fuck with us. Silly goose. Also, its interesting you consider yourself British.
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. Pretty sure you needed this military might you speak of so negatively when you were busy being taken over by Germany.![[image loading]](http://www.tonyrogers.com/news/images/american_normandy_cemetery.jpg)
